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Glad to be welcomed thanks. --ProfessorStalhmanSaysHello 07:18, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Re: some gibberish[edit]

"[H]umans only win when outnumbered". The Covenant have a habit of using the overflow strategy akin to the Red Army. By your logic the UNSC only looses when fighting a handful of enemies.....strange.-- Forerunner 10:25, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

LOL!!!! I meant humans only win when they outnumber the Elites (direct quote: "Just because your tactics are different from the UNSC's doesn't make them inferior - just look at all of those battles the UNSC lost. Hell, the Marines only won in battles where they outnumbered the Covenant")

another direct quote you said in favour of Elite tactics "The Sangheili-led siege on Alpha Base in an example of Sangheili tactics - they tricked the Marines into believing that they were a Pelican making its way in, when in actuality they were an armed force sent in to kill John-117. Going around killing people in close-quarters combat doesn't mean that you aren't a strategist - Sangheili have such a big advantage in CQC that they simply don't need to be tactical in such engagements, though neither does this mean that they don't use strategic tactics" --ProfessorStalhmanSaysHello 10:30, 13 August 2011 (EDT) Not very consistent in your arguments are you.

Why do I find it odd that you're having the same debate that CookieMonster was having...--ハローファン (H1234-NET) 11:23, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Who the hell is CookieMonsterayshello?

--ProfessorStalhmanSaysHello 11:27, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Oh wait thats my older brother, sorry this is ex-call of duty hater and we share the same first name btw. Sorry for any confusion, yeah me and Cookie had a very-long discussion and we agreed that if I was to stop vandalising on Halopedia using his account and stop being a "COD fanboy extremist" in his words, he would allow me a place on Halopedia so that I can learn to understand the Halo universe and appreciate it more. Since then, ive been hooked on the lore and me and Cookie's views on Halo have become very similar. --ProfessorStalhmanSaysHello 11:37, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Yes.--UP TO NOW I HAVE TOLERATED THESE CRACKPOT EXPERTS AND ONLY OFFERED A TOKEN OBJECTION!!! NOW THAT THE DRILLING HAS BEEN ACCELERATED, I will not be obstructed any further. 11:53, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Ex-COD Hater" ex- Halo hater sorry lol. --UP TO NOW I HAVE TOLERATED THESE CRACKPOT EXPERTS AND ONLY OFFERED A TOKEN OBJECTION!!! NOW THAT THE DRILLING HAS BEEN ACCELERATED, I will not be obstructed any further. 11:56, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Re: some gibberish[edit]

"[H]umans only win when outnumbered". The Covenant have a habit of using the overflow strategy akin to the Red Army. By your logic the UNSC only looses when fighting a handful of enemies.....strange.-- Forerunner 10:25, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

In an attempt to answer that age-old question once and for all, I shall compare tactics we have seen in battle.

Battle Date Human strategy Covenant strategy Notes
First Battle of Harvest 2525 Covenant vessel lured into relic-related trap and disabled. In the ensuing confusion the Tiara is captured by the militia and the colonists begin evacuation. Covenant forces search for relics due to the devout religious significance. To remove any threats the planet is assaulted with a planetary bombardment, knocking it into a nuclear winter.
Chi Ceti 2525 UNSC Commonwealth holds of a small Covenant ship long enough to allow the SPARTAN-IIs to retrieve their MJOLNIR mark IV armour. The unit takes advantage of a flaw in Covenant shield design to board the vessel and plant a nuclear warhead. Although resistance is light a SPARTAN-II is injured and is unable to enter vacuum safely. Sam sacrifices himself destroying the ship from the inside. Unrelenting discovers the human presence at Chi Ceti IV and begins to attack the Commonwealth on its own. Both heavily damaged, the Unrelenting retreats to safety before attacking, again without assistance. It would appear that the Covenant at this moment have little regard for the combat-effectiveness of the UNSC and believe it safe enough to attack solo. A Kig-yar security crew may suggest that this is a Kig-yar vessel, given its size as a third that of the Commonwealth.
Battle of Bliss 2526 Three UNSC ships are attacked by a fleet of forty-five Covenant ships and are quickly destroyed. Covenant strategy appears to be in overwhelming UNSC forces through rediculously-greater numbers. Planet is subject to orbital bombardment and evacuating civilian ships are shot down before jumping. First confirmation of the Covenant Navy intentionally overwhelming UNSC forces.
Second Battle of Harvest March 2526 Forty UNSC and repurposed CMA vessels attack a single Covenant ship at once, aiming to overwhelm the vessel and quickly retake the colony. A sudden change in tactics from conventional weapons to the MAC gun wins the battle. Covenant super-destroyer resists constant attack from missiles with use of shielding and takes out thirteen vessels before a MAC strike takes it out, itself. Covenant Navy doesn't take the UNSC seriously, leading to very-lax strategies.
Battle of Alpha Aurigae October 2526 117 (or 107, depending on if it was a typo) UNSC ships attack a Covenant fleet of twelve, including three CAS-class carriers, head on. The Covenant fleet respond like-wise. A very simply Naval engagement whereby entire fleets simply follow a straight line - akin to engagements in the First World War with dreadnaught-type battleships, which eliminate the need for parallel, horizontal warfare. Tactics seem otherwise lax on both sides and the UNSC takes heavy losses because of it.
Battle of XI Boötis A February 2528 Seventy UNSC ships attack a Covenant force of of eight head-on. The Covenant Navy responds likewise. The UNSC Navy under Admiral Cole continues with his idealogy of overwhelming the Covenant, believing it to be the only way to remotely equal them in strength. Again, a straight-line assault proves costly.
Battle of Hat Yai 2528/9 A UNSC destroyer deploys ODSTs to assist in the groundside engagement. A Covenant base is taken without ODST casualties. Covenant Navy engages the UNSC in an unknown manner while planet-side ships begin shooting down evacuees. To quickly take the planet, reinforcements are called and the UNSC is forced to retreat. First known usage of the Covenant calling for reinforcements - they appear to take the UNSC much more seriously than before.
"Harvest Campaign" 2526–2531 Numerous UNSC forces over the years attempt to take control of the planet, only to be beaten back by the Covenant, who are in-tern beaten back again. Ground assault appears to be in a mêlée. Covenant ground forces attack in an unknown manner, which descends into a mêlée. Later engagements in 2531 reveal that their continued presence on the planet is relating to previously-unnoticed Forerunner artefacts. Both forces appear to be evenly destructive.
Battle of Eridanus II 2530 unknown unknown
Battle of the Great Bear December 2530 Seventeen UNSC ships attack a Covenant fleet of three Covenant vessels, loosing eleven. Attack strategy is unknown. Three Covenant ships destroy eleven UNSC vessels before they themselves are destroyed.
Battle of Arcadia February 2531 UNSC fleet of four ships destroys a CCS-class battlecruiser. Two are destroyed and a third, the UNSC Pillar of Autumn is damaged. SPARTAN-IIs are deployed to assist in the civilian evacuation and prototype "Plasma Rhinos" disable the shields of a Covenant base. With the UNSC fleet in tatters, the remaining CCS-class battlecruiser establishes a base around Forerunner ruins as they look for relics of high significance. Pirth City is attacked as the Covenant Army drives the humans off of the planet. Upon acquisition of desired information, the Covenant depart. First known instance of the Covenant army and navy working together.
Battle of Trove February 2531 A UNSC carrier attacks a Covenant force above and within a shield world. Its Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine is sacrificed to maximize their success. The Covenant attempt to hold the UNSC forces back through overwhelming marines with their army long enough to activate a Forerunner fleet.
Battle of Jericho VII February 2535 The UNSC Navy holds out against the Covenant for three days while a SPARTAN-II team deploys a nuclear device to take out huge numbers of Covenant. An Arbiter is sent by the Prophet of Candor for an undefined reason. A massive assortment of Unggoy attack a single platoon of marines(?), possibly eaten. The Covenant Army again demonstrates the success of their overwhelming strategy. However, light defences elsewhere allows an elite unit to take out huge numbers of them. For unknown reasons the naval engagement is unusually-long and does not end in the complete destruction of one side.
Battle of Charybdis IX 2535 Small UNSC fleet attempts to hold back the Covenant long enough for the civilian population to evacuate. The Marines have "dug-in" in order to defeat the Covenant Army quickly, though it is unknown of their effectiveness. Small Covenant fleet destroys at least two UNSC destroyers and attempts to steal the navigation data of a third as was custom earlier in the war. The Covenant's need for nav-data is shown in this engagement - they need at least one ship to survive so that they can find more colonies. However, it has already been wiped as per the new Cole Protocol.
Battle of the Rubble 2535 Joint UNSC/Separatist forces attempt to defend a hollowed-out asteroid-turned colony ship long enough to allow its escape. A UNSC frigate also accompanies it. The Covenant is very-divided in this engagement due to an internal-dispute. Consequently, they pay much attention in destroying themselves. The Prophet of Truth shows his desperation in find Earth by having Kig-yar privateers begin trading aggairs wih the insurrectionists in hopes of finally reveiving Earth's coordinates.
Battle of Metisette 2535 UNSC forces deploy ODSTs onto the surface of the planet and capture a Kig-yar-held base. Meanwhile, a UNSC AI decouples the above asteroid base, sending it into free-fall, killing any remaining Covenant forces on the planet. Covenant forces loyal to the Kig-yar "Reth" use a methane-friendly base camp in order to allow an increase in the Unggoy population in the area to allow them to overwhelm any force the Reth is threatened by. Fierce internal-disputes are continued over from the engagements on the Rubble.
Battle of New Harmony Before July 2537 unknown - a UNSC success unknown A probe is attached to a retreating Covenant ship (a rare sight), revealing the location of a major Covenant outpost.
Battle of Leonis Minoris 2537 The UNSC responds to the destruction of two colonies in-system by sending in reinforcements, which succeed in annihilating the Covenant fleet. A Covenant fleet of unknown numbers glasses two planets and takes out an apparently-insignificant number of UNSC ships (ten) before being destroyed. In the first known engagement to involve a multiply-populated system, the Covenant shows that they will simply attack one planet at a time rather than stretching their forces.
Battle of New Constantinople Before July 2537 The SPARTAN-III Alpha company erradicates Covenant forces on the ground while Admiral Whitcomb destroys the Covenant fleet. unknown
Massacre of Troy May 2537 ONI intelligence discovers that the Covenant are planning attack on Troy and begin to evacuate the colony. unknown The UNSC demonstrates the effectiveness in intelligence-gathering while the Covenant are shown to plan invasions.
Operation: PROMETHEUS July–August 2537 Relying on ONI-intelligence, the SPARTAN-III Alpha Company is deployed onto K7-49 to destroy the shipyard. The Covenant attempt to defeat the SPARTAN-IIIs by overwhelming them, eventually succeeding after five days after calling for reinforcements. Covenant forces not in the front line are ineffective against UNSC forces; the SPARTAN-IIIs demonstrate battlefield superiority for three-four days before the Sangheili reinforcements finally take control of the situation.
Battle of Kholo 2539 The UNSC attempt to repel a large Covenant fleet but are overwhelmed and retreat. The Covenant fleet overwhelmes the UNSC Navy and Marine Corps and glasses the planet before hostilities end. The Covenant illustrate their complete disregard for their own troops' safety by bombarding the planet through a battlefield.
Battle of 18 Scorpii March 2543 A UNSC battlegroup attacks a Covenant ship and the three ships sustain damage. An insurrectionist fleet rescues the UNSC fleet by destroying the Covenant ship, themselves. A lone-Covenant destroyer is sent into the system, where it holds back two UNSC destroyers and a cruiser before being destroyed. Again, the Covenant show that they take the war without anywhere near as much seriousness as the UNSC, allowing single-ship deployments into enemy territory.
Battle of Psi Serpentis April 2543 A UNSC fleet of 162 ships with 55 resupply-ships awaiting the signal to assist engage a Covenant fleet of 100 ships, followed by a second fleet of 200. The tactical-brilliance of Admiral Cole and a second fleet of 55 insurrectionist vessels leads to the total destruction of the Covenant fleets. The Covenant respond to being overwhelmed by themselves overwhelming the UNSC fleet. The UNSC continues with Cole's usage of numbers to equal the Covenant in strength. An intimate knowledge with physics is employed in this battle to surprise the Covenant and destroy it.
Battle of Miridem 2544 The UNSC holds back the Covenant fleet, while a SPARTAN-II unit tries to rescue Dr. Halsey. The Third Fleet of Glorious Consequence demonstrates their military intelligence by hunting down Dr. Halsey and capturing her. One SPARTAN-II is killed in the attempt.
Raid on the Third Fleet of Glorious Consequence 2544 The UNSC sends five SPARTAN-IIs to rescue Dr. Halsey. The Fleet commander Thel 'Lodamee demonstrates his own tactical brilliance, along with madness, by openly destroying his own ships to kill two SPARTAN-IIs.
Operation: TORPEDO July 2545 SPARTAN-III Beta Company is sent to the 51 Pegasi system to nutralise a refinery. While the near-impossible task is completed, the unit suffers near-total annihilation. Many thousands of Covenant Army personnel attempt to overwhelm Beta company to try and stop them from taking out the refinery. ONI's intelligence gathering again shows its importance.
Battle of Skopje 2547 UNSC specialist forces (ODSTs and SPARTAN-IIs) are sent to the planet to repel the Covenant Army long enough to evacuate engineers and equipment critical to ship-building. The Covenant Army tries to overwhelm the groundside-forces while the Navy engages the UNSC starside before glassing the planet - a standard Covenant strategy.
Siege of Paris IV 2549 unknown unknown ONI's Beta-3 division's requirement for Covenant weapons is so great that they are actively-saught after during the battle.
Battle of Gamma Pavonis VII 2550 Three UNSC corvettes attempt to rescue an unarmed science vessel from a Covenant destroyer. The science vessel instead rescues them by colliding with the destroyer, taking out both. unknown - appears to involve a single vessel
Battle of Ariel January 2552 An ODST squad is sent planetside to answer a distress call. Covenant forces are instead on the defencive as they attempt to seek "the knowing".
Battle of Fumirole April 2552 Noble team activates a nuclear warhead inside a low-lying CCS-class battlecruiser. unknown - based on available information, the Army attempt to overwhelm UNSC forces with the cruiser reinforcing them when needed.
Battle of Sigma Octanus IV July 2552 A UNSC fleet of 49 ships takes on the Covenant fleet while SPARTAN-IIs destroy the Covenant's base. A Covenant force goes planetside to investigate a Forerunner artefact. ONI gathers more data on the little-known Huragok race, and the Covenant's usage of Forerunner technology as a 'driving factor' of their xenophobic campaign is noticed.
Battle at Szurdok Ridge August 2552 A large UNSC force likely numbering in the thousands assaults the Covenant, which have advanced little over the month. The Long Night of Solace sends out reinforcements from its immense bays to push back the UNSC, finally decloaking in order to take out a UNSC frigate personally. The Fleet of Valiant Prudence is shown to have a great care for the safety of their supercarrier.
Operation: UPPER CUT August 2552 Noble team and Air Force personnel take off into space in order to capture the corvette Ardent Prayer and use it to destroy the Long Night of Solace Covenant Naval forces, with their cloaking field no longer sustainable, begin to attack UNSC outposts. Initial assaults on UNSC outposts involve fighters rather than capital ships - the fleet does not have enough ships to make a full-on attack and instead wait for reinforcements. The Long Night of Solace appears unaware of the UNSC's boarding of the Ardent Prayer - there is a distinct lack of communication between the two.
Siege of New Alexandria August 2552 The UNSC resists the Covenant for five days while they evacuate civilians. The Covenant act differently - they only send in ships after five days of fighting, and even then only glass once the fighting is almost over. Covenant radio-jamming is noticable in the later portion of this engagement.
Battle of Aszod August 2552 After a month of fighting, the UNSC ground forces on an entire continent regroup at Aszod, seeking to evacuate on the Pillar of Autumn. Nearby Marine forces and survivors of Noble team defend a MAC gun to defend the cruiser. The Covenant return to their earlier strategy of overwhelming the ground forces by deploying a large assortment of Scarabs to melt any remaining resistance. A CCS-class Battlecruiser notices the UNSC cruiser and attempts to desroy it.
Red team's defence of ODG Facility A-331 August 2552 In a last-ditch effort to pull back the Covenant Navy, the UNSC puts what little it has left to defending the orbital MAC guns' generator facilities. An orbital bombardment by the UNSC is considered necessary to stop the Covenant from reaching the facility. The Covenant overwhelmes the lightly-defended facility with three Armour divisions of wraiths before three cruisers make their way to the facility to reinforce them.
Battle of Tribute August 2552 The UNSC battlegroup defending Tribute is attacked by Covenant forces and sustain 90% losses in the engagement. The Covena