Talk:Armor customization

Idk how wikis work, I never use them, but as I understand it, editing this page is how to discuss what changes should be made for armor customization pages. I thought I edited it yesterday but now it's not showing up, not sure what I am doing wrong. But anyway why does Halo 2 armor customzation not have its own article, when all the other games do? There is a link here for Halo 2 armor customization but the link doesn't work. Surely this page should exist?

IMPORTANT - Armour Permutations: Split this page up?

This article is getting too big.

SUGGESTION: Split into "Armor Permutations" article for Halo 3 & Halo 3: ODST, and a seperate "Armory" article for Halo: Reach.

The two subjects are too big to fit onto the same page, without cluttering it.

--14 August 2010

I agree. This page is getting way to large.One who survived 23:09, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

The page is large and covers material from two different games with major changes between them. People who are looking for information on the armory in Halo Reach should be able to go to a separate page for that, instead of having to scroll past all the irrelevant Halo 3 information. Also of note is the long paragraph explaining the revamped gameplay mechanics between Halo 3 and Halo: Reach. I'd agree that these changes warrant a separate article, and I vote that the page be split into two. - Jetz72 22:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree. True, they're essentially the same thing, but the page is too long. We should split it up, just like many other game-specific articles such as rank. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 22:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest hold off. Let's gather all of the information first and then reorganised them into templates. Halo 3 was in the same mess before, but got cleaned up a few months afterwards.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 22:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

As far as gathering information goes, this thread seems to have a nice collection, with pictures, too. Jetz72 02:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I have attempted to split this page up. I have pulled all the information we have on reach into a new article including all reach pictures from the gallery section but it continues to be ripped back to this article and the new one I created is being marked for deletion due to redundancy. This is highly annoying because whoever is doing it refuses to answer why they apparently do not want the article split or does not understand the concept of what I am doing. Griffmstr835 17:54, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Please take a loot at the article here and tell me if you like how it looks and whether or ot you feel it should be deleted.

I know this has been around for a while now but I also agree that the page should be split. I was thinking that maybe we could avoid the new page's deletion if we have an official vote.--Soul reaper 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

So this vote has been sitting around for awhile now and no one has opposed to splitting the article. Are we ever going to split this article?--Ender the Xenocide 14:04, 8 December 2010 (EST)

Support

• Support- Page is far too long and has enough information to warrant a split--Soul reaper 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
• Support- Yeah its very crammed. If you split it into Halo 3/odst and Halo reach pages then you'll allow their respective info to be clearer. Right now you have to dig through a wall of text to find specific info. All available information has been gathered for reach or is on its way so we can move it now. We've already finished our templates and what not. Any new info isn't going to flood in and will be easily added.--File:Legendary.jpg|20px]]Ender the XenocideFile:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 17:23, 18 November 2010 (EST)
• Support- I agree. The information regarding the three different games does warrent a split. How ever, if the page is split, I would sugggest that you make individual pages for the armor types, detailing, where they were used, created, and any significant history reguarding the piece.I would be happy to do this if you would like! Please post any requests for this on my board or talk page. Here is the link: Alpha Spartan A
• Support- I support the idea. it gives people the ability to find things easier instead of searching through the monument of items here. --Failamanjaro 23:30, 14 December 2010 (EST)
• Support- Splitting would make this page much more user-friendly.--One who survived 19:39, 20 December 2010 (EST)
• Support- It will be much more easier to navigate the page, even with the contents box. "Do it."—Master Chief on Two Betrayals. S331 10:49, 14 January 2011 (EST)

Pilot armor

who removed the halo reach pilot armor? and more inportantly, why was it removed?One who survived 18:29, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

-> Unrelated but no need for a new topic, I just signed up to add in that EOD Armour Second Stage Helmet costs 5000cR.

I also just added about the last two Halo: REACH helmet types (Military Police and CQB) and Halo Waypoint, giving an example. I added this before the REACH Table of variants. OptiMAT 08:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

-> Update, EOD Stage 3 costs 3000cR

There's a little box labeled "Summary" under the content editor text box where you can explain the contributions you've made. No need to post it here. Jetz72 22:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Unclassified chestplate?

in the main picture on this page, the thumbnails for the recon and serrity armors, there is bodyarmor that is not identified. what is this? recon armor? either way it needs to be investegated and edited.

After spending several minutes trying to figure out what the hell your on about, you just talking about, it doesn't matter, its the recon Chestplate, and that iamge needs to be removed, its terrible...--Ajax 013 20:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem

How do you unlock these armors in multiplayer without xbox live?

You don't. Pure and simple. Pyromancer 14:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC) No, you can unlock some without xbox live such as hayabusa E.O.D and E.V.A. also there are some more you can unlock without xbox live

I have over 1000g between halo 3 and ODST and i have the security shulders but not the helmet. whats up with that? also its not that you need these points in halo 3 because i dont have 750 on halo 3 by itself. Lizardassassin 17:11, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Guests Can Unlock Armor

I wanted to see if a guest could unlock any armor in Halo 3 so I signed one in and went for the one non-achievement related armor, the Hayabusa. After collecting 5 skulls the Hayabusa Chest piece had been unlocked for the guest. After collecting 9 skulls, the Hayabusa Shoulders had been unlocked for the guest. I did NOT get the remaining skulls or attempt to get any achievements with the guest but some armor can be unlocked for guests. I'm not positive if the armor remains unlocked after the guest signs out, but I suspect that it doesn't. Here is an image from the game I used the Hayabusa Guest in, my Live Account is Ninjas in Nikes and the picture is on my profile on bungie.net if verification is needed.

Guests can unlock and keep armor. It's a little obvious, really. There are many people whom don't have Xbox Live so they have to have regular Xbox profiles. Bungie wouldn't want to have underprivelaged people with Halo 3 not be able to enjoy Armor Permutations. E93 01:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

That's a good point but it wasn't exactly what I was talking about. I meant a temporary profile such as the "Guest" profile that is available when you sign in another player.

Inaccuracies in Stated Unlocking Requirements

The Security shoulder armor will not unlock merely by getting 750 points. They only unlock after completing all of the meta-game achievements, the page should be updated to reflect that.

Further to that, this was reported:

I had just under 1k achievment points, no Stepp'n Razor and had marathon man when I realised I had mine.LegendStormcrow

"Unlocking the Security Shoulders does not require an arbitrary amount of points. Rather, the player must unlock 39 Achievments. Ergo, the points can vary considerably. I can testify to this, since I had 810 points and no shoulders, but then I got my 39th achievement (820 points) and I've had them ever since!"

If anyone can link a source that verifies the exact requirements, that would be fantastic. :) -- Manticore ^{Talk | Contributions} 13:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, as of 10/20/07, the Elite Commando shoulder armor still will not unlock, at least for some.

Its 750 including or in addition to 40 for marathon manSargeLIVES 04:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

As of this morning, I have 845 achievement points and 30 achievements unlocked (including Marathon Man), but still don't have Security shoulders -- just FYI. I wonder if the source with 39 achievements had unlocked all the Metagame achievements? (I haven't done any of those.) Thehaikumaster 18:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

• Total Achievements: 31 of 49
• Total Gamer Score: 845 of 1000
• meta: 0
• MM: yes
• sec shoulders: no

--Uberfuzzy 18:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

NOTE FROM A GUEST - I do not have 39 Halo 3 achievements, I found that to unlock them - get 750 Achievment points in Halo 3, then complete 1 meta game achievement (I did demon) to unlock them.

MightyMe18 - I don't think that 39 achievements has anything to do with it. Right now I have 30 achievements, 600 gamerscore, and I have the security shoulder pads. I don't have any meta game achievements.

Cha0tiks- for some reason i got all my meta game achievements and the marathon man achievement and no armor. but when i beat campaign on legendary the security shoulders were unlocked :o wierd

Guys. i've got something over 900 GS. i had completed 2 meta achievements after getting 800 GS, and still no shoulders. i had 40 acievements and still no shoulders. it may depend on some of those, but i can assure you that i unlocked my security shoulders upon completion of the "Steppin' Razor" achievement. we really need to work out EXACTLY what the requirements are. JakCurse 21:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys, something is kinda strange here. My gamertag is Queenlittle55 and I only have 410 gamerscore while I still do have security shoulders. Any explanations? Just curious.

I have the security shoulders with 455 gamerscore, 33/49 achievements. Have marathon man, haven't beaten the game yet. Missing all meta, tilt, blackeye, campaign completes(all), mission 2 and 7 achievements. -- Fanciest Pants

Watexggp_i thinks you got to do marathon man 2 get them thats when they came avilible 4 me and i hednt done no meta then but i did all the meta in the other day

Hello, I have seen many reports of the security shoulders unlocking, then locking shortly after. I have experienced this, but then I reunlocked them by simply getting another achievement. I got the Steppin Razor achievement, but I don't think the actual type of achievement counts. -Note From Guest

righty. i think we need to clear this up. i've got 760 gamerscore from halo, no meta achievements and no security 'pads. im going to do the first level meta (hopefully) and report back on whether i get them. oh, and i've GOT marathon man. add me on XBL (my gamertag is my Halopedia username) if you want to party up and do some of the meta.JakCurse 19:56, 6th January 2008

EDIT- I've now got every achievement, barring "Steppin' Razor", "Overkill" and the metas (exepting Demon, which i've got in the last hour) and 910-ish gamerscore, STILL no security shoulders. this is either seriously bugged or it relies on one of the above achievements. im considering that it may be overkill, as i've seen people with 600 GS and security shoulders, with the majority of my achievements, plus, as i've said, overkill. i've completed the campaign on ledendary, and unlocked marathon man, so it isn't either of those. that, OR they're bugged like the commando shoulders.