Talk:John-117/Archive 3

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This talk page is too scattered. We've got at least 3 articles concerning John-117's rank, unspecific sections, and a lot of unnecessary stuff. For example, there are images of the Master Chief and an Elite Zealot here when it should be in the talk page. Please take the time to clean this article up.

Images

Someone recently used an image of the Master Chief firing a Battle Rifle in Halo 2 onto the infobox. While it certainly looks cool, let's try to stick to images with the best graphics, in other words, from Halo 3. So I changed it back. However, it will be okay if you put it in a gallery. Arby116

Unnamed section

When is this said by Dr. Catherine Halsey and Cortana are the only ones who call John by his actual name, Cortana having done this at the end of Halo 3. When done Coratana use his name? The Hero700 23:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

File:054.jpg|thumb|Master Chief vs a Zealot]]File:Burning halo-1-.jpg|thumb|Burning MC]]

Hey how come we can't edit this article?

Something I added

A while ago, you might not have noticed, I added "Covenant Separatists" to his Affiliations / Teams part of the info box. Is that really correct, or is Covie Separatists just joint with UNSC but - IS JOHN PART OF COVENANT SEPARATISTS? UserWiki:Sangheili Fleet|Sangheili Fleet]] (comm) 03:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Not really, cuz the Chief is part of the UNSC. Or else you might as well put all the Marines as "Covenant Separatists" and Elites as "UNSC". (No I didn't really mean you should do that but if you want to have fun) but seriously, the Chief is not part of the Covenant, so plz just keep it as "UNSC Navy" thank you very much. —əґыţєґιιб

I like to think of it in terms of World War II. Britain and America retained different military branches, different chains of command, But they were both part of the Allies. So yes, I guess John is a Separatist. -- CoH|Councillor]] Specops306 - Kora UserWiki:Specops306|'Morhek]] 01:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

IMPORTANT

Someone needs to get the Chief's role in battles that occurred before Alpha Halo. Pryo 'Zarkum File:Major-gr1.gif|19px]] "Talk to me" "My Work" 01:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Master Cheifs Death

Mark it and date it, Year of death

2552 - Battle of new Mombasa + 43 years (As of Testimonial: Gravesite) - 5 Years after Testimonial: Gravesite said to be his "Ceremony" 2590 is Y.O.D.

I Hope you notice that the Y.O.D he states happens in 2590. The "I think not" link to the legendary ending happens in 2556. Age-wise, MC will probably die in 2590, or at least be retired. At the moment he is..30-40? so 34 years from 2556, he will be 64-74-ish. Considering massive augmentation, battles, and being stuck in that armor all of the time, probably also from plasma burns, gun scars, and lack of a sane childhood, Im sure his life span has been.. somewhat reduced. — Shadow (Dark Lair) 17:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that Master Chief should live longer than most humans since Avery Johnson is around 70 in the Halo games and has no signs of physical aging. Avery is only a spartan-I and is less powerful than John, in addition, the Spartan-IIs have Mjolnir armor that protects them from plasma burns, gunshot wounds, etc. And besides, Chief traveled alot in cryosleep, which should make him younger than his technical age in earth years.

Well, the lift supporting system helps much. MasterChiefPettyOfficerSpartan Contribution 11:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Take note he wouldn't age in those 34 years. So he most likely retired.

Master Chiefs Height

According to Bunjie's Beastarium the Reclaimer or Master Chiefs height is 2.08 meters (obout 6'8) so I added this to the stats. Do you guys think this is his 'bare foot height' and he's a full 7' in armor? A Monument to All Your Sins 17:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

-Did MC- survive- I think MC did survive, according to the spoiler MC escapes the unknown halo wreckage with cortana. If he returned to earth is questionable. Can someone answer tis for me.

OK, I'll tell you what happened to MC, although you can look it up in the game plot on Wiki. After pre-maturely firing the re-built, unfinished Halo Instalation 04 (from halo one) Chief and the Arbiter tried to escape back to earth through the wormhole that took them to the Ark in the level "The Ark". They flew through in a cruiser, with Arby in the front of the ship and MC in the back with cortana. When the half-reconstructed Instalation 04 fired, destroying the Ark and off-lining the Halo system (hopefully), the cruiser was only half way through the wormhole portal back to earth. So only the front half with Arbiter made it back to earth, while the back half of the ship where MC and Cortana were riding was lost somewhere in time and space because the firing of halo cut off the wormhole while they were still in it, throwing them wildly into some part of space far away from earth. So the legendary ending cutscene shows MC and Cortana floating through space in the debris of the cruiser's hull, approaching a planet which seems to be a forerunner homeworld like Onyx. Many people think that this leads to the game Marathon eventually, which was an old Bungie FPS game which had a main character suspiciously similar to MC.24.15.64.119 03:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)jake

MC's "Real" Face

I strikes me with great curiosity of how Master Cheif looks behind that helmet. It be cool if they show on H3 or HW. I also came across that in the starry Night's trailer for H3 they say that the little boy in the beginning was MC younger, interesting. Anyone else has anything to say about this? --Ferball 02:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I doubt it is the Chief's younger self, but I am too curious of it. There's a description in Halo: The Flood, maybe you can figure it outMaster Chief Petty Officer 05:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Bungie better not show the MC's face. I like how mysterious it is, besides every time there is a mystery and the answer is released to the public, its always a disappointment. You don't want another "darth vader incident" do you?---sogy

That is obvious, but I think that Sogy is right about itMaster Chief Petty Officer 05:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree but I heard that in the Halo movie MC will take his helmet off but most likely they will reveal the MC's face in Halo 3.

The Halo Movie is still in the progress of production, and I think that they may use the FPS like Doom filmMaster Chief Petty Officer 13:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

  • God, I hope not. Worst movie ever made. Enough to put me off videogame movies for life. -Azathoth 23:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Just thinking, but I hate that First Person Sequence, it sucks, though I think the production would not put in the sequence. Master Chief Petty Officer 12:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
      • What? That was the only good part of the movie... other then the very ending where I could finally not have to sit through the bad movie. :)--H*bad 02:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Well, listen, you won't get so happy after watching it five times in a row, trust me, Master Chief Petty Officer 11:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
        • I still got excited over it, in fact I fast forwarded it a few times to just that part.--H*bad 13:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
          • Its not the point, I mean to say, will the FPS be in the film if the film really launches in the futureMaster Chief Petty Officer 05:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
His face has been described as nothing special. Brown Hair, blue eyes, military-style buzz cut, etc. -ED 06:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you can see MC's face on the trailor of Starry Night. When MC flies off the Mongoose/Warthog, and he pauses to pick up his helmet, you can see part of his face in the reflection of the visor. However, many users dispute this. -File:Spartan with Sniper Rifle and Shotgun.jpg|50px]] Blemo Talk Contributions File:UoH.gif|30px]] in the picture his face looks dark or very tan, i remeber in one of the halo books he(or someone else) says "their skin is so white" or something along those lines... then why would they show his face as dark or tanned? Nikki 22:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The books did say somewhere that he was a pale white with plenty of battle scars didn't they? The Nooseman

Actuall you are correct. In the books it says he is supposed to be really pale, short hair, lots of scars and dark eyes. And under the helmet is just another helmet.GRIFISYOURFATHER 23:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)GRIFISYOURFATHER

I believe there is an explanation of why Bungie don't reveal the face of the MC.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1657825,00.html

Read the article. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

i reckon its good they havnt shown his because when you play halo your supposed to be masterchief so if you see his face you cant keep this illusion up.

Yeah well, I guess our question should be concluded that Master Chief represents you. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:06, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

well think of it like this if they wanted this illusion they would'nt have shown the arbiter's face although he is an elite and all elites look the same but just think about that its not a valid argument but just something I wanted to throw in there

Eh... I don't know about what it currently says (that being "If your camera happens to go through the biped's visor, it wouldn't just go through the biped right away, you would see a face, just for realism.")... usually modelers wouldn't include something like that. With the hunters seeing the hand through the fuel rod cannon is understandable since it may have been planed that they spawn without it. I've done mapping for Day of Defeat (a half life mod), and if you wanna make a house no one can get in to, you don't put rooms inside, you just leave it empty. It saves time, effort, and actually makes the game run smoother and faster (less things to render). KWSN 16:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I was on youtube the other day and watched a video of when chief takes off his helmet in the last Halo: CE cutscene. They modded the camera angle so you could see what happens. When chief takes off his helmet, he just has another helmet underneath, so I'm guessing bungie didn't make a face model for chief in the game. If you want to watch the video, search master chief's face under the search feature or something. You should find it eventually. Covenant Ghost 23:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

if you look and listen closely at what is in the Starry Night's trailer you will see that the little boy is Master Chief and the other person is on e of the other Spartans. They are probably somewhere on the planet Reach, where most of their childhood training took place. If you watch and LISTEN for a few minutes, in the video when master chief wakes up you can still hear the children. Since he is in the middle of a battle the children cannot be there. Therefore it must be on of his own memories. Comment Anyone ? Dijam 02:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Bible references

Instead of the NIV, what about having it from the KJV. You get more from it.--H*bad 15:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind putting the KJV excerpt here? -ED 06:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
On the talk page?--H*bad (talk) 13:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

-Revelation 1:17 & 18.

I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys o