Talk:Jonathan Doherty

Pre-announcement Discussion

Wait a minute, if this is the new guy, and we play him in campain, wouldn't that mean that he has no energy shields? Or not to mention motion trackers? Or is this going to be like a swat version of campain?--Bugger| ^{Bug Me}_{| Bugged} 03:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

We don't know how it'll play, yet. We don't even know whether it's an FPS, or a Third-Person Shooter. Bungie have said we'll need to rely on stealth more, though whether this means a cover system or simply avoiding enemies is unknown. -- CoH|Councillor]] Specops306 - Kora UserWiki:Specops306|'Morhek]] 04:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I would love a cover system. Energy Shields obviously wouldn't be featured, but the ODST Body Suit does feature a HUD, which includes a motion tracker and, as we saw in the video, a thermal sensor. These, combined with the possibility that the Superintendent may be helping him, should make it fairly easy to avoid most Brute patrols. Lieutenant Baird ^Comm-Link_{Service Record} 04:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Cover system, like the Gears of War thing? Bioniclepluslotr 02:07, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I've always loved swat, this is gonna be sweet!--Bugger| ^{Bug Me}_{| Bugged}

02:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Grammar check! I noticed someone talking about how the gloves have no tips, so he/she can't function in a "compromised" environment. I don't think that's correct... someone fix it please, I don't like doing things myself. Also, I haven't been on in a long time, so I can't remember my exact username nor password, so here's my IP. :P --72.84.128.210 17:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

In the a weekly update, bungie said that the video was made for them and not an exact representation of actual gameplay so its possible that in the actual game your character will have full gloves for non-atmospheric use. Zuranamee

Bungie said ODST was supposed to be a different type of Halo game, so wouldn't that make Rookie the Chief of ODST?Clarkmaster

That does not make any sense. How does them saying it will be different got anything to do with rank? FishType1 00:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Nah, ya got it all wrong, I meant Rookie might be like John and The Arbiter was in h3, the main characters Clarkmaster

I hope that since the Rookie won't hit as hard as John-117 that he has a kickass combat knife!!!! I also vote for a cover system because if Halo get's one it WILL be the best game in the world[suck that gears]I also hope to be able to TOGGLE,yes,toggle between 3rd and 1st person views [i've always wanted to try halo in 3rd person] and am I the only one who thinks that a Starwars BAttlefront-like halo game would be kind'a cool--4.153.67.67 23:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST

Background change

The final version is different from the trailer version. I suggest someone should change it to what we've seen from E3.--4scen 21:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Seven Reference

Isn't the fact that he's listed as enlisting on the date 07/07/2547 and obvious seven reference? --Kahn Iceay 02:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

don't forget 2547 L33tmcphee 04:01, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

New Guy Inconsistency

Although the Rookie is supposedly the newest member of the squad, according to their CSVs, Mickey enlisted later: the Rookie enlisted on July 7, 2547 (Bungie Day:-)), while Mickey enlisted on June 4th, 2548. --"A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 17:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

He's "The Rookie" because he was the new guy on the squad, not a new recruit.-- Forerunner 17:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

That was pretty stupid of me. Never mind. --"A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 17:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Locked?

I was just wondering why the page for the Rookie has been locked out so that not even established users can edit it. I don't have a problem with the lockout, page looks pretty good to me, and consistent with what we know so far. I'm just curious. Captain J 01:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Locked

Maybe it's because we're awaiting new info on the Rookie, and so nothing just put there has to be deleted?(Yes, I am also clueless)--Turbogruntman117 13:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Source?

When it says that the rookie is a true silent protaganist, because he doesn't speak in the campaign, is there a source for that? We haven't seen the whole game yet. Sgtpickle777 19:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

In the ViDoc, Buck says that the Rookie "doesn't say much".   General5 7    talk    contribs    email  

"Doesn't say much" isn't the same thing as "says nothing at all". the fable series's main protagonists are examples of "says nothing at all".Papayaking 04:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure the Rookie will more then likely never talk because, well, he's not the real main character. His squad is. The plot of Halo 3: ODST will be conceived in their eyes, not the Rookie's. --TDSpiral94 04:55, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

If it hasn't been confirmed yet that he doesn't speak at all, we should remove that bit. As for the Rookie not being the main character, he's been confirmed to be the protagonist. We don't yet know the full extent of his relevance to the plot. Sith Alchemy 101 16:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm two months late for this reply, but the Rookie ingame truly says nothing at all. --User:Blemo/Sig

Rookie Name?

Has anyone noticed that the Rookie's Service Number ends in 'JD'? These could be his initials because all the other ODST's Service Numbers end with their initials too. For example Mickey's ends with 'MC' (Michael Crespo). I could be wrong, but it's a fair guess? --HELLJUMP3R 7 13:51, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Seems reasonable, but I have a feeling we'll never know his actual name (unless it says somewhere in that Halo Encyclopedia). --TDSpiral94 04:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes. The ending two letters of the service numbers are indeed initials, as Captain Jacob Keyes' is JK and Sergeant Avery Johnson's is AJ. The article says "Little is known of this Marine other than his initials being "J.D." (possibly for John Doe), ... ". Where would the name "John Doe" come from? Is there a link or source? --User:Blemo/Sig

john doe is a term used for unidentfied males, usally for the dead.

How?

How is "the rookie is the main protagonist of the prequel and expansion of halo 3" trivia?Papayaking 20:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

The game is based on the Halo 3 engine, but during the events of Delta Halo. The Master Chief wouldn't have been there to claim main character title.Anoson 16:36, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Strange Edit

"The two letters at the end of his Service Number(JD) could mean "John Doe", a term used in the United States to classify male individuals, usually murder/homicide victims."

— Anonymous IP

Um...okay? He's up, walking around, and fighting. Does he look like a murder victim? -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek ^{Honour Light Your Way!} 23:57, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

John Doe has noting to do with murder its a place holder name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Doe --Jack Black 00:19, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I still fail to see how its relevant or verifiable to the Rookie. As far as I'm concerned, its a coincidence. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek ^{Honour Light Your Way!} 06:23, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Should we remove it as speculation, or at least move it to a different section of the article? --User:Blemo/Sig

I wouldn't include it at all. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek ^{Honour Light Your Way!} 03:37, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

I think the "John Doe" idea is supposed to allude to the fact that the Rookie is sort of like a detective (the whole Film Noir idea), but there's no official source, so I suppose the John Doe thing is irrelevant.

Capt. Daget J. Sparrow 02:07, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Then again, if the idea of "John Doe" was used, that would make the Rookie the 4th "John" in the Halo series, alongside John-117, Sergeant Johnson and Sergeant John Forge.

The vs. the

People, please. This is Halo, not Homestar Runner. When you write this character's 'name' in the middle of a sentence, it's "the Rookie", not "The Rookie". We used to get this occasionally for the Master Chief, but for some reason people seem to be confusing the Rookie for The Cheat. Captain J 01:18, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

... Now I'm compelled to use the integral article every time I refer to the Rookie. "Cover my six, The Rookie! Fire away, The Rookie! Why are you face down on the floor and not moving, The Rookie?!" :D --Kajex Firedrake 13:26, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

lolPapayaking 02:22, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Drop Pod much?

Have you noticed that even if you play on solo there are still the drop pod locations of if you play on Co-op? Can someone put up pictures of all of them in the gallery? Or at least one? Thanks!--Mishulover69 17:30, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Similarities?

in We Are ODST, At the end of the video when we see Tarkov packing up the flag of the ODSTs, there are three other Troopers standing around. There is actually one who the camera focuses in on. This trooper says nothing. If I remember correctly, aren't Tarkov and the other ODSTs in the 29th REF? This would mean that one of the ODSTs seen at the video's end could actually be the Rookie, since the Rookie is stated as being one of the sole survivors of the 29th's last battle deployment. And based on skin tone and plot pertinence, the mute ODST the camera focuses in on could very well be the Rookie. WHat do you guys think? 71.166.87.224 01:15, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Highly doubtful about the mute ODST being the Rookie, since Bungie would not want players to gain a visual representation of the Rookie just based from an actor's face. Plus, Tarkov wasn't a character in H3:ODST, and it wouldn't be much of a chance that the Rookie would be included. You also noted that one of the troopers says nothing. If I remember correctly, none of the troopers say anything on camera. --User:Blemo/Sig

It's a good theory though, based on the 29th REF story.

Capt. Daget J. Sparrow 02:04, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

"The Rookie has no voice actor; he doesn't speak a word throughout the entire Halo 3: ODST campaign, save for assorted grunts and groans in the campaign, making him a true silent protagonist, unlike the Chief, who spoke freely during cutscenes, but r