Talk:Charon-class light frigate

Authenticity & Source Availability?

I'm a little bit confused about this one page. While I do want to believe it (and I do, for some odd reason), my only question is this: How does one know for sure that this is really the class of frigate when the Halo: The Essential Visual Guide has not yet come out in the United States (but may possibly already be out in the United Kingdom), own it and read it? There is, however, a preview available ([1]) to download and read, I saw no mention of this, only the bit about the Paris-class heavy frigate. Xamikaze330 19:53, 5 July 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330

There have been some previews released of the book online. that's where the info is coming from. PRESIDENT1234 20:37, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

It's been out in the United States since yesterday I believe. Picked mine up today at a retail store. Amazon and all major book stores now have them available. User:CommanderTony/Sig

oh really I think I might go pick one up tomorrow. PRESIDENT1234 20:53, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

Make sure to call ahead before and if possible, have them hold it. I called a good five places, and only one of them had it in stock at the time, and it was their only copy. User:CommanderTony/Sig

Alright thanks will do. PRESIDENT1234 21:00, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

I just checked Amazon. It seems you are right. I rest my case. But, I will not completely believe it unless I see it with my own eyes. Xamikaze330 19:19, 7 July 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330

FYI, I just ordered the book online at Amazon using Prime. I looked it over, all information is accurate. Case dismissed. Xamikaze330 13:53, 22 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330

Midsummer Night

Given this frigate's classification as a light frigate, could we assume that the Template:UNSCship is of this class?--The All-knowing Sith'ari 11:33, 6 July 2011 (EDT)

I thought of this yesterday, but gave up - we just don't have enough evidence. All we know of the ship is that the Midsummer Night is a light frigate modified for stealth missions. We can't even tell by the Hull numbers, either, as the Charon and Stalwart-class light frigates intersect - Charon-class frigates have numbers between "127" and "307" while Stalwart-class frigates have numbers like "142". As the US Navy rarely diverts from the "one-more-than-the-previous" system of numbering (FFG-1, FFG-2, etc.) unless on the grounds of radical deviation of a vessel's style, we can assume that the two ship classes were both in service and in production at the same time. However, the two serve noticably-different purposes due to their shapes - Charon-class frigates, with their enlargened hangers, appear more suited to ground and atmospheric operations than the Stalwart, which can also perform this action albeit to a presumably-smaller capacity. We do not know enough on the Midsummer Night to make a proper confirmation.-- Forerunner 12:09, 6 July 2011 (EDT)

That's Some Dark Humor

So, one of the major designs of the Charon-class light frigate is that it can transport a (Proportionally) large amount of ground troops.

The thing is is that the Charon of Greek mythology transported the dead across the River Styx to Hades. Sounds exactly like a Navy ship transporting Marines into combat, doesn't it? Basically calling them Dead Men Walking? Missing Mandible 16:35, 12 December 2011 (EST)

That's actually kind of clever SPARTAN-347 20:38, 12 December 2011 (EST)

Or perhaps the Frigate is escorting its enemies to hell? I dunno. pestilence Phil, pestilence! 20:39, 12 December 2011 (EST)

Let's keep in mind that not all the soldiers onboard die. Only that some of them do. But even those who manage to survive combat without getting killed are nonetheless casualties. Probably because they survived the trauma of losing their friends. Think about it. War Is Hell. --Xamikaze330 11:33, 13 December 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330

I'm not saying that all of the soldiers will all die. I'm saying that it won't exactly fill me with confidence if I were transported to battle on a ship class named after an Escorter of the Dead. Missing Mandible 21:15, 13 December 2011 (EST)

Understandable. Could be a case of really bad superstition, one that could very easily become true. --Xamikaze330 23:26, 13 December 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330

Shields on Charon Class Light Frigate

This picture has conclusive proof that the Charon-class Light Frigate, as of Halo 4 has shields (notice the golden hue on the rightmost frigate) —This unsigned comment was made by SithSB (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

That glow's just from explosions. Also, isn't that pic leaked content? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 15:15, 5 November 2012 (EST)

Looks like a spoiler to me, or either that, offical but early released content.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 15:21, 5 November 2012 (EST)

Edit: Link removed as per above.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs}

Its not a spoiler in fact, it was released on waypoint as part of the Departure Spartan Ops episode. And that glow is reminsant of the one Infinity has when she rams a CCS-class Battlecruiser in the Spartan Ops Season 1 Trailer and flys through the debris. It a shield/ —This unsigned comment was made by SithSB (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Just a tip, ending your statement with "end of story" is both uncalled for and somewhat antagonistic. There is much discussion if people call for it. And sign your comments please. Grizzlei ♥ ツ

Understood, thank you.--User:SithSB/Sig

So, I have watched the Spartan Ops Departure CGI video several times and with out a reason for doubt, know that the Charon-class Light Frigates deployed from Infinity have shields which are golden colored.

Link to the images of the shield flares:

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So, based off visuals, the Charon-class frigates (they had their designs retconned) possess energy shields.

--—This unsigned comment was made by SithSB (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I think you mean "retrofitted". -- Qura 'Morhek ^{The Autocrat of Morheka} 20:57, 8 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure he mean't retonned. Retrofited would be that the ship's design was changed in canon, but the Forward Unto Dawn's design changed after it was destroyed and drifting so reton would be more accurate. VARGR 21:18, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Well it is established that the Huragok were working on Infinity and that in 2557 the ship posesses shields so it makes sence that Frigates docked onboard it would also be upgraded with shield systems. VARGR 23:03, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Can some one add shields to the entry? It won't let me do it.---Sith

There's no field for shields, that's why it's not showing up.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs}

Is there a way to create a field sir?---SithSB

There is. Use |othersystems=.— subtank 22:19, 17 November 2012 (EST)

Ah, thanks Subtank, or whoever that was signing as Subs. :P--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs}

Redesign

It seems the design of the Charon-class frigates has been changed for Halo 4. Does anyone have an image of these said redesigns or did this never happen? Yoonhyuk-740 19:54, 16 November 2012 (EST)

Today i've added an image clearly showing it new design. You can see it on the gallery. CF⁰⁰¹ 23:00, 17 November 2012 (EST)

What this page really needs though is a side image of this ship type from Halo 4 to replace the Halo 3 one used at the top of the profile since it is a reton. The only place in the game you can see a clear shot of the type however appears to be in the final mission when flying in the open area. These models ma be a lower quality though as its hard to tell VARGR 12:11, 29 November 2012 (EST)

Top picture

Im thinking we should replace the halo 3 era picture on the top of the page with a halo 4 era picture. Anybody think the same? CF⁰⁰¹ 21:49, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

While it is a nice picture, it is however lightly rendered, meaning it probably wouldn't make a very good infobox image. That's my personal opinion. --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 21:54, 11 March 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330

Well i find it very acceptable i tested it and it look great. CF⁰⁰¹ 22:38, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

It's kinda light, though perhaps it could get put in the article body in the Halo 4 section. Also, The Commissioning has confirmed that the "old" style frigate still exists in the post-war world. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 23:23, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

That's true, but the old-style frigates in The Commissioning and Forward Unto Dawn are actually from the Paris class. Anyway, I think that the page image should be replaced by one from Halo 4 as soon as the Castle Map Pack comes out. The ship on Daybreak may be rendered rather sparsely but it still represents the new canonical interpretation of the vessel. Hopefully we'll get a good look at a high-resolution Charon-class frigate in the next season of Spartan Ops. --Courage never dies. (talk) 23:41, 11 March 2013 (EDT)