Talk:Flood Juggernaut

For the Love of!

First of all, store some of the old conversations. Second of all, the Juggernaut is most likely a combination of infected bodies and Flood Biomass. It would have been the Flood's equivalent to a Hunter, although with a melee emphasis, not a Fuel Cannon one.-- page/contribs 02:32, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Fighting the Flood Juggernaut

Fighting the Flood Juggernaut

Fighting the Flood Juggernaut

Speculation

Some theories put forward by fans

*Prophits*

I think that the Juggernaut is an infected form of a prophit.--NIGHTMARE

I don't see the similarity. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 21:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Dragonclaws The prophets are too small for them to become a juggernaut. Perhaps It's a mixture between combat forms? --User:Deathfrye

Hunters

• See article

Wow why would people think it's a Hunter, that is prety stupid.--prophit of war 14:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Could it be that is is a SPARTAN-II that was infected?

No. Spartans, enhanced though they may be, are still just human. That thing is pretty inhuman, and much bigger than the Chief. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 19:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

it CAN be a hunter, every worm whould have to be infected though, they have been shown to indect every specis but hunters and engeiners. think about it. the 'body' of the hunter has more worms, so bigger mass, the arms have less worms, so they whould be thinner.

To both the above and bellow comment, the entire hunter could be used as food, biomass, but their are two problems with the hunter theory: 1. the hunter has no calcium, which the flood need. 2. the hunters worms would each have to be infected, requiring them to have both calcium, biomass, and a central nervous system, which neither lekgolo, nor Earth worms have. --Kre 'Nunumee 01:19, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

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Well, I still think there hunters ... some reasons :

1. if you watch the 'YouTube Flood Juggernaut fight video' you can see that there are 2 juggernauts, and hunters also 'work' in pairs.

2. maybe hunters also have tentacles, you can't see because they have always a heavy armor.

3. the form of the juggernaut doesn't need to be like the form of a hunter because hunters appear to be composed of multiple organisms that exists within the hunter armor.

These multiple organisms are each about the size of the infection forms, have no calcium stores for the Flood to feed on, and even if the Flood could infest them the Juggernaut doesn't look like a worm colony. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 19:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

because of the possibilities, the flood juggernaut could be mixed with other hosts (for the ribs) and were strong and big enough to absorb the hunter (amourless of course), to have the hunters brain pattern, aggresiveness of the brute, higher jumping like other F C forms... fludz 'carnttuchmee 14:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

My best guess is that the juggernaut is actually the prototype for the pure tank form. Think about it R+ GOTTLOS

IT CANT BE A HUNTER because hunters are a "hive" of smaller worm like creatures formed together to make the hunter and is stated on halopedia's hunter page that it is in fact impossible for a hunter to be infected

It seems like it is an advanced Tank Form. Or although I have never seen one in action, it could be a Drinol! But how could it possible be a Hunter?! I mean an Infection Form is much bigger then the worms it's made out of. It could also have been specifically made to act like a tank. What I mean by that is, the Gravemind saw that the Flood needed more help in this battle so he specifically made (remember, the Gravemind has COMPLETE control over the Flood, and that probably means he has control over the mutation as well) a Infection Form infect someone differently! Specifics. He got like 12 Infection Forms to go into 12 different people, but he made them transform them differently, then combine them together to make these things. But in order to make it stronger he had to compress these 12 people(this could mean Elite, Human, Brute, etc.) into a small(making 12 people like 12ft tall is kinda hard) being. So it probably took the Gravemind to much time to make and send to the battlefield, so after the Battle of Installation 05 he came up with a new idea of how to make these monsters. And those became Tank Forms!Thank you taking time to listen to my post! 01:22, June 7, 2010 (UTC)!!!!!!!!!

Old Tank Form?

Old Tank Form? or Another Pure Form? --þ†öW讥 ^{^ (UNSC Fleetcom)(UNSC History)(UNSC Mision Log)} 02:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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Combination of several Combat Forms?

Some fans also believe it could be a combined form of several Combat Forms.

Natural Life Cycle of Flood?

It could also be a more mature stage of the Flood, since Flood do age into Carrier Forms over time, this could be the stage after Combat but before Carrier, hence its shape.

Yes, I was thinking something along the lines of a more advanced/fully mutated Combat form as well.

Mobile Brain Form?

Is it possible the Juggernaut is a mobile Brain Form? It is phsyically similar to the form seen on the Truth and Reconcilation which infected Captain Keyes. --CrzyAznSprtn 16:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Why would they use it for fighting then?

Perhaps that's why Bungie removed the Juggernaut or maybe they're like extensions of the Gravemind so his control of the Flood can stretch further. Who know's, I was just thinking.

--CrzyAznSprtn 16:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

• There is a distinct possibility that the Juggernauts are the flood infection form of the Engineers. There is a startling resemblance in the shape of the central body, number of tentacles (four on the Engineer, two on each side of the Juggernaut at the base of the larger tentacles), and both species were deleted from the game. However another theory is It is made of multiple flood As the foot appears to be a Human Combat Form

actually that could be a flood improvision. it could be possible that the flood cannot harness the ability of floating like the engineers. these infected engineers merged with combat forms to support it and allow it to travel. so despite the negative of the human foot there is still a great chance that the juggy is an infected engineer. user:gil demoono

IS it Drinol?

POV stuff about it not being a Drinol. There's is no current official explanation for what a Juggernaut is, so don't add what you think. Personally, I think its just a bunch of Carriers combined, but I'm not going to add that, because its speculation. Irkallabyss

I don't think it's a Drinol but if it's an Engineer they're non combatent maybe the flood modify their bodies like if a lifeforms body is useless to the flood they modify them probably. I mean the flood human forms are abveously modified with their heads like that. So maybe that's it I admit it's speculation.--prophit of war 22:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's a Drinol, because remember how the carrier forms are disfigured grunts? Well it looks like it could just be very disfigured with tentacles where its arms should be, but instead of sprouting from the arms like most combat forms, this case it totally replaces them. Or, maybe it's an entirely new species.--FRAG3TH

Too bad they don't show the flood changing creatures ingame--prophit of war 15:59, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they're not Drinol because Drinol are probably bigger than that. You know, on the H2 CE dvd they said it's to big to fight and you're able to fight the juggernaut.--prophit of war 18:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's an engineer either, engineers are described as floating gaseous blobs, this thing has legs and a rib cage. Yes, the flood can alter a body, but I doubt they could alter the entire sekeltal structure. My guess is that Bungie wanted a super strong Flood form, but couldn't think of any host to stick it into, so they cut it. 24.254.47.90 01:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Could it be a Sharquoi?

Possibly.... —This unsigned comment was made by 69.14.127.209 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I think it's a Drinol/Sharquoi (since they're probably the same thing). I don't think it can be an engineer because they don't have legs. --File:Final Goji.jpg|40px]] Lordofmonsterisland"Roar to me" 14:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Are they Brutes?

• It's a flood brute —This unsigned comment was made by 72.184.71.233 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I don't think so, they look to big.--prophit of war 14:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe that was why they were deleted

if a carrier is bigger than a grunt/jackel/etc, then it could be a flood brute fludz 'carnttuchmee 16:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

There not brutes

Offspring of Gravemind

I think it could be either an offspring of gravemind or even a pre-mature form. It has tentacles like gravemind. Kerek 03:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the Juggernaughts are pure Flood, nothing else and HUNTERS DO NOT HAVE A RIB CAGE the juggernught however does. and they certainly aren't brutes or a infected spartan. If it was a spartan where did it come from? and to prove they aren't Hunters we must bring up the worm thing. a hunter is just a bunch of small tiny worms... Bakas...

Duskstorm 16:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

hold on, ***checks flood database***, the juggernaut cannot be made of "pure" flood, the only "pure" flood is the infection forms, and unless they take a brute-sized pack of steroids, the infection forms will not grow to a flood juggernaut! (otherwise flood infection forms wouldn't need a host) fludz 'carnttuchmee 17:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

There is other pure forms now. It could just be an offshoot of the Gravemind, or he created it as the equivalent of hunters, heavy tank unit. It could be special ops flood, sent to stop the chief, or the prophets, or specialised completely for enforcers Honor Guard Reborn

Oversized drone

to me, the third-top-left looks like a drone; thin legs, sensors sprouting out of the mouth, it would be too heavy to fly, drones could have a bigger adult form?
also, it's got a reason for the low amount of fl