Archive:Requests for Merger/Raid of Reach - March 2010

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Seeing that Halo: Reach will most likely elaborate and expand the Battle of Reach, I think it's fair to say that the Raid of Reach is certainly part of the Battle of Reach with continuous ground battles between the UNSC and the Covenant and as such should be merged with the said article. It is likely to happen and this has been supported with Bungie's assertion of not following the novel's plot and that we will be able to witness more events that extends the battle to Operation: FIRST STRIKE. This is similar to the events from H3:ODST which confirms that there were no Second Battle of Earth as Truth deployed his forces moments after Regret bugged out of Mombasa. —This unsigned comment was made by -Ascension- (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Furthermore, the "Raid of Reach" only refers to the events of 7 September when the Installation 04 survivors returned. The game "Halo: Reach" does not go as far as the 7th, as the Covenant have already glassed everywhere but Menachite mountain by then. The game's plot seems to suggest that the events of the battle take place over a period of maybe two or three days as opposed to over a week. Continuing, it is the same Covenant force against the same UNSC force (under the same UNSC commander) as opposed to something similar to out early thoughts of the "First" and "Second" battles of Earth, in which the Covenant retreat and a new fleet takes their place weeks later. If this article is not merged with "Fall of Reach", it should at the very least be recognised on the Fall of Reach article as part of the battle - everything there says that it lasted one day and that was it.-- Forerunner 15:07, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Voting ends 10 August 2010. -- Forerunner 16:52, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Support (8/1)[edit]

  1. Support.svg Support - As per above. (7alk) 02:27, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Support.svg Support - The same thing as the Battle of Reach. ----> Master Chief Petty Officer John-117 (Personal Favorite). 18:27, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Support.svg Support - At the very least we should actually have Raid information on the Fall of Reach article.-- Forerunner 15:27, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Support.svg Support - As per above. --Nerfherder1428 16:04, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Support.svg Support It should be merged. They both happened at the same place at basically the same time.Thank you taking time to listen to my post! -- Vegerot 23:55, July 30, 2010 (UTC)!
  6. Support.svg Support - As per -Ascension- and Forerunner's reasons on the intro. -- Ultra Force 16:42, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Support.svg Support - per above. Col. Snipes450 16:21, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Support.svg Support - Maybe add a section on the Battle of Reach page called the Raid of Reach. Darb 013 17:16, August 7, 2010 (UTC)*

Neutral (2/0)[edit]

  1. Halopedia Vote Symbol Neutral.svg Neutral - While I understand your assertion about Halo: Reach, we still cannot presume what will happen. While Reach will most likely expand on what happened between Reach's partial glassing and John's return to the planet, we should not jump to such conclusions until we are certain. - Halo-343 (Talk) (Contribs) (Edits) 18:39, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
    Added New Content Template. ----> Master Chief Petty Officer John-117 (Personal Favorite). 18:48, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
    The recent BWU suggests that it all happens within a few days. Besides, the "raid" was only when John got back.-- Forerunner 00:09, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Halopedia Vote Symbol Neutral.svg Neutral - As per Halo-343. - JEA13 [iTalk] 09:36, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose (2/0)[edit]

  1. Oppose.svg Oppose This is a series of conflicts during the fall of reach, it's be akin to merging the The Battle of Earth with the Human-Coveant War. Jabberwock xeno 23:11, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
    But wait where does it say this is different from the Fall of Reach. SPARTAN-125 Cally99117
    I never said it was. I said that it was a part of the Fall of Reach Conflict. not to mention the time-space warping that occured that complicates everything. Jabberwock xeno 15:46, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Oppose.svg Oppose - The Fall of Reach was essentially that; the fall of Reach. This event happened after the planet fell, when the Covenant were mopping up. I strongly oppose this merger. Kougermasters (Talk) (Contribs) (Edits) 09:32, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

As I said in my vote, if we don't merge them, we should at the very least acknowledge the Raid events as part of the Fall of Reach. The timeline only shows the first few hours of a battle that lasted 2-3 weeks.-- Forerunner 09:38, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is a section called aftermath so the page should be merged into that section. --SPARTAN-125 Cally99117
The Autumn leaving the system isn't even the aftermath :/ Yeah, I'd merge this with a section called "aftermath", but we'd have to change the name of the Fall of Reach's section.-- Forerunner 09:54, July 11, 2010 (UTC)