Talk:Earth

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I suggest toning down the stuff about evolution, as it seems as though the Forerunners may have had something to do with it. --Dragonclaws 09:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Continents

There arn't 7 continents!

• NA
• SA (lol it sounds like essay)
• Africa
• Oceania
• Antarctica
• Eurasia

see. theres 6! Vixen-girl

theres: North America South America Euorpe Asia Africa Astralia Antartica see 7 Voy101

Historically, Antarctica has been described as a continent, but modern scientists know that without its thick ice covering, it would just be a bunch of islands. Oceania isn't a continent, no matter how you slice it.

So there's 6, or 7, depending on if you count Antarctica. @Vixen, I'm pretty sure Asia and Europe still get counted as separate continents, since they're separated by the Ural mountains.

Planets

"Earth is one of 4 planets..."

Uhhh, I thought there was 8 planets.

Countrys

can we add the rest of the countrys and the rest of the U.S. states,it seams better to me to have the rest of Earths countrys on it's page Voy101

Greece

Does anyone know what happens to Greece in Halo? I'm Greek and I play Halo so I'm just curious. Mr.X

As far as I know, it's still there. The Covenant didn't really hit Europe. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 19:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

They might have actually hit every continent pretty hard. Bungie, unfortunately, isn't releasing any real information about the status of Earth beyond Kenya. -LiquidNazgul

There is released. The Covenant had actually attacked Cleveland and Havana (So, it is possible that they also hit Europe). - steven1098s (UTC) 21:23, February 7, 2011

Population

isn't it strange for Earth in the 26th century has only 200 million while Earth now in real life has over 7 BILLION,shouldn't Earth have at least 1 billion on it,even with the colonistion to get some of the humans off of the over populated earth Voy101

You're forgetting the effects of the Covenant invasion. They destroyed Australia, and we know they were invading the Americas and elsewhere. Not to mention the glassing of Africa to prevent the spread of the Flood. There was also a draft, so most everyone was sent out against the Covenant. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 19:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

No, the population must be well over 10 billion. 200 million is ridiculous. Even Japan today has 130 million people (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ja.html#People), and it's just a tiny fraction of the world's surface area.

Even if we take out Africa and Australia, the Earth would still have a population in the billions.

And even the most radical draft possible would not take out 99% of the population... There wouldn't be enough people to support the army/navy. --CaptainZoidberg 21:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

But in the Section in the Beastiarum about humans it says that humanity was reduced to around 200 million from the war and bombardment of earth. JesseZinVT 23:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... If it really says that (which I find highly difficult to understand. The Covenant would've had to have literally bombarded Earth like anything, or the UNSC would've had to have launched mass evacuations), then I guess you're right.

But if 200 million is indeed true, then the Covenant must have completely wiped Earth cleaned, which isn't exactly the picture I got from the games. This is pure conjecture, but maybe the Covenant used bio-weapons or radiation weapons?

The only problem is, I haven't seen the beastiarum myself, it was something I saw online a while back. Unfortunately, Bungie hasn't yet seen fit to tell us what the exact story is. Maybe the exact population after the war should just be kept ambiguous until more information is given (in the form of the Halo: Uprising comics or future books). JesseZinVT 05:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

There is a reason they say we are fighting for our very survival on Earth. Also, keep in mind that human population expanded into the stars several hundred years ago: How many people would even be left on the polluted and resource-exhausted Earth? Then we have the Covenant bombarding every single part of our Planet-at least two continents destroyed. I wouldn't be surprised if the North and South Americas were completely destroyed; both were mentioned to be under heavy attack in various canon sources. Every single soldier left in the war is fighting in this fight; I wouldn't be surprised if the few we fought with in Halo 3 might be the only ones left. InnerRayg 07:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I personally am not fully convinced by the 200 million claim. This should be left ambiguous as previously suggested.Fire Eater 15:27, 3 June 2009(UTC)

one guy tried to change the population by useing apicture book which uses previously canon sources but don't worry i change it back to the way it was before vandlize it —This unsigned comment was made by 156.99.55.125 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I checked your edit. There was no "picture book" mentioned, and we have no confirmation that the information hasn't been denounced as non-canon. Furthermore, it is not vandalism. "I disagree with this person" =/= "it will be the end of all of us! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" (attribution: Trunks, DB Kai) -- Forerunner 14:40, 1 November 2011 (EDT)

umm..if the earth was VERY overpopulated...wouldnt there still be a population in the billions? even with continents destroyed/glassed, and maaanny ppl drafed and killed, im pretty sure there'd be more then 200million america(north) alone has over 200 million,..DarthFart 00:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

You're forgetting that a lot of people left Earth for the colonies. Terrans (People of Earth) aren't exactly considered "model citizens" in the UN, most peoples of other colonies regarding them as arrogant people who put pesticides into everything they eat (it's there). Also, you're forgetting that the majority of the Earth's population in the 26th century would have left to defend the colonies from the Covenant. With a smaller population, along with further casualties in space; nearly all Home Fleet ships destroyed; a slipspace disaster in New Mombasa and its subsequent (apparent) gassing; attempts to clear out the Caribbean; the incident in Cleveland and a bunch of failed resistance attempts may explain why only 200 Million are left. Also, I am pretty sure the population figure is of the homeworld, as the concept of the ENTIRE Unggoy population being 320,000,000 just doesn't look right.-- Forerunner 23:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

This would make much more sense, if this was not the population of every human, but only every military human. Over 200 Million military would sound about right, if earth's population was about 50-60 Billion. This would also make sense to the other species Unggoy military population would be 320 million. This could explain why with the help with the Elites the numbers was about even on both sides, and thats how we won the war. If the population increases by 1.17% per year for 526 years, there would be over 200 billion humans... but I would say about 150 billion people would have colonized the other planets. This is why the secret to earths location must be kept secret in halo 1. This means that the planet must till hold a great deal of life to humans. Today alone, Africa holds over 1 Billion people, this means that by 2550's the population of africa would be around 10 Billion people. If my theory is correct that is.

No, the birth rate of all industrialized nations droped in the last half century, africa will be more wealthy in future and the population will not rise over 5-7 billion, the entire earth population could be around 20 - 30 billion in 2500. Indias population is growing fast today but this will slow down in the next 50 years. Chinas population is now around 1.3 billion but trough the one child policy the population is growing slow. But even with "only" 30 billion people, the world is overpopulated.

PS: The info on the "human" page is wrong, google and you will find some new infos about the process of population growth. dudewithtoomuchtime

It may very well be incorrect by data inference (considering population growth rates today, and projections). However, established canon says 200 million. That is where it stays. Smoke^{Sound off!} 18:28, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

New wiki video tool

I thought it would be nice to use this feature to make a collaborative video about Earth. I started a video and placed it on the page, looking for people who will conitrbute and edit it. ChrisF 08:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Pictures

I know that there are some pretty good pictures of Earth, but a lot of the ones here are of places or events. I'm going to remove some of the lesser ones, to clean it up a bit. Specops306, Kora 'Morhek 01:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

too much gravity!?!?

how can it be 1.01 gravity? it's earth dang it! we measure gravity by its gravity it has to be 1.00!

that's for sure

Well to be percise the overall Gravity is 0.99732 G and for cacluation purposes in velocity it is 9.8ms^-1 Sub-71 19:57, 9 Feburary 2009

"Well to be percise the overall Gravity is 0.99732 G and for cacluation purposes in velocity it is 9.8ms^-1"

Don't be ridiculous, force exerted by Earth's own gravity varies by elevation AND lattitude. 9.81m/s^2 is an approximation for gravity at sea level, you really can't be more accurate than that without geographic information. Plus you got the units wrong, you have to square your seconds for acceleration i.e. change in meters per second PER SECOND.

What I mean is that I agree with first poster.

The first poster is right. As it's defined Earth should be at 1g. Hence the concept of a "g." Also why is the atmosphere 0.9? It should be 1 atm since by definition that's the pressure from the atmosphere at Earth sea-level, at 20 degrees Celsius, etc. - Lord Hyren 22:26, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Earth Famine?

"Now with a massive military with no enemy to fight, overpopulation, famine, and a collapsing economy, the unified Earth faced trouble."

Earth, on a whole, cannot suffer from a *universal* famine. That's impossible, especially giving modern agricultural methods. I don't think we are meant to assume that the destruction of the Rainforest Wars expanded to every last piece of arable land on every last hemisphere of the globe. "Global food crisis" on account of increased shortages when one of the hemisphere's farmers gets pwned on the other hand, sounds a whole lot better. Changing the word "famine" to "food crisis".

~TheHolyDarkness Out~

(relaxed yet appreciative sigh)

Ah ,earth. Sometimes I imagine whole galaxies full of nothing but earths and suns or whole galaxies full of reach plants and the UNSC has some kind of intergalactic warp drive. I like to give good guys massive unfair advantages in my fantasies of various sci-fi game or tv series..es.

Global Warming

In the Halo 3 level, Sierra 117, you can see pipelines in the jungle. According to the Halo 3 story, the pipes were used to collect melting ice water from Mt. Kilimanjaro as a result of global warming. How come Earth appears to have no flooded land or risen sea levels, if there was global warming?Yuhi33 23:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Based on the seawalls of Zanzibar and Outskirts, it would seem that the water level rose and then dropped. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 08:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Are you even sure Global Warming is the reason thats because they're there? Happyhobo-117

I have a picture: 82,7% CO2?--DerPete ^Talk 22:31, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Heh...I wouldn't take that CO2 count as evidence of anything but laziness on Bungie's part. The stats on that NMPD board are nipped from a graphic in the Elephant on the Halo 3 map Sandtrap, indicating the atmosphere of THAT planet. Earth's values are not accurate here. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 07:16, 24 October 2013 (EDT)

You know, the Earth as seen in summer of 2557 (the article's main image at the time of this comment) depicts ice covering the entirety of the Great Lakes region and creeping down as far as about Nebraska, not to mention almost completely engulfing Canada. It might really be that they're trying to insinuate a global climate change scenario. --File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]FluffyEmoPenguin^{(ice quack!)} 09:55, 18 December 2013 (EST)

As per the Midnight page, under Mistakes: "While this level takes place in July, one can clearly see snow covering the URNA's northern region, primarily Canada. This is likely a developer oversight, and not the result of climate change, as the Earth's terminator line is also entirely inconsistent with the summer months. In July, the terminator runs Northwest to Southeast across North America in the morning, with the far Northern regions experiencing 24-hour sunlight. In-game the terminator is running Northeast to Southwest with the North Pole bathed in shadow, a phenomenon which only occurs in winter."-- Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 12:30, 18 December 2013 (EST)

Other locations

what about the the other locations on Earth? the list is missing some places from Halo 3 Voy101

Population after invasion

Truth jumped with at least 100 ships when he arrives, the careful attack of 13 ships took out 2 stations and numerous ships. Truth would have known better and he had the Dreadnought. The fleet may have been decimated to the 30 or so we saw over the Portal but they would have had more then enough time to glass vast regions of the planet as seen in Cleavland. It is likely that only 200 million humans survived. The bestiary has complete world populations for every species including the prophets before, activation, after civil war, and at the end of the game. The idea that the population for earth is just its military population is absurd and idiotic. So STOP changing it to 12 billion that number is far to high. Truth hated humanity, he probably would have destroyed the entire population just because he knew it was the cradle world even if he knew he was going to die. Its not like he didn't have time to watch earth burn while they smashed the defenses and started digging. And Ghosts shows us that the covenant had missions all over the planet. Cruisers on at least 3 continents while the orbital battle still raged.

ProphetofTruth 05:31, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I've undone it a few times now. It's established that there are only 200 million humans left, end of story. Anyone who changes