Talk:List of inconsistencies in the Halo series/Archive/1

Sources

Since conflicts must use sources (and many are on the page but not stated as sources) there should be more than one source stated at the bottom 24.34.59.220 00:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Just changed about 56 such plain-text citations to wiki-format; still a few left, I think, plus some factoids that are missing citations or need more specific ones. File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.png|16px]] DavidJCobb  00:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Tiara's Space Elevators

Harvest was founded in 2468 by theCAA Skidbladnir."Skidbladnir remained in orbit for more than a year to assist in the construction of the basic infrastructure for the Tiara". With that said when Sergeant Avery J. Johnson engaged in Operation:_KALEIDOSCOPE on 2502 the Tiara was not fully constructed (Contact Harvest, Page 65, Line 3) "They hadn't been there on his previous visit."-Johnson, the time he returned in 2525 however they were completed in 2524 (Dirt, Page 108, Line 9)"I could see one of the seven space elevators..."-Gage

With some quick math i figure you have 57 years (Y) to build 7 space elevators(SE) logically the build time would shorten.

Y Date SE

02 2468 0 (2 y to build the basic infrastructure for the Tiara)

20 2470 1 (20 y to complete 1 SE)[highest per capita agricultural manufacture of any outer colony.]

18 2490 2 (9 y to complete 1 SE)

10 2508 4 (5 y to complete 1 SE)

09 2018 7 (3.3 y to complete 1 SE)

please correct me if i messed up math wasn't my thing back in school, but its all speculation for construction. What i am thinking is that some where some writer messed up.... but having incorrect info on the article saddens me. can we fix it?--RussellofSwinhart 02:44, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

"Basic infrastructure" could mean anything, from warehouses to MagLev rails and foundations etc. It may be that the writer forgot mentioning that they hadn't been there when Johnson last visited Harvest, but it's not really an inconsistency since the wording is so vague. They could have started building the elevators after 2502 for all we know; the basic infrastructure could've been sitting there for several decades until it was deemed necessary to build the elevators, or alternatively, when they got the necessary funds to do so. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 04:12, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

True True.... I just felt wrong reading it and then the too not match up, i don't see how the Tiara could have the highest per capita agricultural manufacture of any outer colony without the SP's maybe i am lil OCD on the details but.. but... i like my theory and shame on the writer...--RussellofSwinhart 04:03, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

John 117's rank in "The Fall Of Reach"

In "The Fall Of Reach", John 117, is referred to as the Master Chief before he has made this rank.

He was given his current rank in 2535. Remember to sign you post with four of these ~ God2845 00:57, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

The Pillar of Autumn has no rotating sections, it received a refit for the mission and one of the features was gravity without the sections. I'll post what page this is mentioned in when I get my book back from a friend.

Discrepancy: Rotating sections in UNSC ships

the PoA doesn't have the spinning parts because they have artificial gravity they say this in the fall of reach book around when capt. keyes got on the ship and some LT. was telling him about the upgrades it got.

The top of page 274 of Fall of Reach describes a rotating section for the ship. It also describes the engine room as having no gravity. Though I do remember that being said somewhere, I can't remember exactly where either. -ED 00:50, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Although Crashing on Halo may have cased Gravity in the room.

Conflict: Pelican ordinance payload

The equipment in the pelican can be moved out or in to create more space. The idea of the spartans fitting in there was explained in FoR,

Where? -ED 21:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Early Scetches of the pelican were much larger than the ones in the game. Also just because it says its a pelican, it doesn't make it the t77-7 model or what ever its called, thats how like 75 kids could be on at the same time.

Where? -Chief2552 19:27, 14 September 2006 (GMT)

I believe they said it was an albatross dropship during the spartan training? when they were kids and each given part of a map that mission?--RussellofSwinhart 18:38, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

It says 10-12. I believe these are how many it SEATS. it could much more if the children were standing up. That coupled with Chief2552s' aurgument makes it pretty easy to belive that it could hold 75 children

Discrepency: Pelican ID

In Halo: CE, the easiest explanation for the repeated sightings of E419 on the pelicans despite each having its own unique ID is due to just using the same textures for the pelican models over again. This is a common technique used in the gaming industry, unfortunately.

That's noted in the Echo 419 page. For continuity reasons, I imagine we'll never be able to remove that one. -ED 17:59, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

There is only one Pelican on Halo: Combat Evolved that has another ID, and that is the crashed Pelican on "The Silent Cartographer". Its ID is Bravo 022. Kboy21 18:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Errors

Should typos be listed, such as "Jerico VII"? --Dragonclaws 21:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, with a source of where the spelling occurred-- Esemono 05:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Should that have a new header or use one of the existing ones? --Dragonclaws 06:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

new header -- Esemono 07:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Canon

Shouldn't the books, written later and in more detail than the manuals, be considered superior canon? I mean, they have added onto the original mythology, making them IMO more up to date. --Dragonclaws 02:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes. --Andrew Nagy 22:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Grunt Conflict

The Section on Manual to Book Inconsistancies incorretly states that 1 meter is 6'3". This is incorrect. One meter is in fact approximatly 3'3"

Plasma on Books vs Games

In the Books vs Games section it talks about the Pillar of Autumn being hit with plasma, I think those were only pulse laser blasts, as a plasma blast is a giant ball of plasma and any plasma blast would have turned the Pillar of Autumn into a molten slag. --Captain Jacob Rathens 03:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC) heh what do yea know im not registered but that is possible that those were pulse lasers because your right, 1 hit and the PoA is just slag.

Yes, slag. Even with cross bracings and reinforcements it would be so damaged that no crew members could survive. And the temperature would jump by about 100 degrees. --Captain Jacob Rathens 03:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not a pulse laser. Pulse lazers are red in colour.--File:Hunter large.jpg|35px]] never ending-summer^{My personal COM chanelAKA R1e2u3b4e5n6} 08:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

In FoR the plasma salvos are described as ruby red, was'nt it written somewhere that the covenant ships tailing the PoA refused to use their Plasma weapons for fear of possibly damaging Halo ringDARKSTORM99 07:46, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Halo: The Flood isn't exactly the most accurate book. Some how Silva knew of the Spartan 2's origin's despite not being a part of ONI. Also game canon overrides any other source. we see the PoA getting hit by some massive blasts of plasma and plasma torpedoes fit the bill much better than lasers. Also plasma's color can change depending on what medium it's passing through as well as a host of other factors as well.--For the Swarm! 20:27, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Do you have proof that they are red? and do you have proof that they can only BE red? --Captain Jacob Rathens 00:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Seraphs in Halo: Custom Edition fire blue plasma/pulse laser blasts that look v. similar to those the PoA is hit by. Molotovsniper 09:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Halo Custom can't really be considered official material as it is fan made, I've played maps with Seraphs that fire the same blasts that H1 shades do. --Ineedacoolname 23:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The Plasma Blasts that Covenant Ships fire are directed energy weapons. The Blasts are shaped into a spearlike shape and then fired at extremely high speeds, so the ship can be Gutted and inoperable.

100,000,000 degree

Um should we add this to the inconsistency's of halo, the sun is not even that hot and the nuking of the PoA looked like a 1 megaton nuke to small to be a 100,000,000 degree nuke that could possibly take out the gas giant halo orbits (cant remember the name) as well as 343 guilty spark and most of that system someone answer this

An inconsistancy is something that is contradicted in another halo canon source. And besides, it's not impossible to create a temperature that hot, In the future it could be even more possible. Also, it wouldn't have taken out Basis (the planet). It also was visible from space so I'm pretty sure it was a teeny bit bigger than one megaton. --Captain Jacob Rathens 03:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

isn't the gas giant called threshold? fludz 'carnttuchmee 15:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry my bad. Is Basis the name of the moon? anyways, I still don't think it would take out Threshold. It was pretty far away. --Captain Jacob Rathens 04:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

To your first statement I must point out that in H:Ce level "The Maw" Cortana states that "detonating the ship's fusion core would take out enough of halo's subsystems. This would cause a catalyst chain reaction taking out the entire halo system. But would look much different in real life then portrayed in the game.

If you notice in the final cutscene, the explosion on Halo was pretty big. It was probably big enough to set off a cloud of gas floating near Threshold, and subsequently, a much larger explosion.

Please note that 100,000,000 degrees is a temperature, not an amount of energy. It would be possible to create such temperature in a very small space without (relatively) much energy consumption. A megaton is an amount of energy, specifically 4.184×10^15 Joules (4,184,000,000,000,000 written out). -- Nutarama 00:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

While Threshold could be made of any gas, most probable gasses are non-combustible. In addition, gaseous combustion reactions require the proper mixing of fuel and oxidizer to work - anyone who has tried to light gasoline fumes can attest to this. -- Nutarama 00:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Grunts overcharging plasma pistols

I forgot exactly what page, but in Halo: The Flood, it says that grunts overcharge their plasma pistols. In the game, only jackals overcharge. -EJtheSnail

That doesn't technically mean that they can't. --Andrew Nagy 22:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Lefty or righty?

In Halo: The Fall of Reach on page 208 It says that James's left arm was burned off from the elbow down. Yet on page 210 it says he "managed to salute with his left hand". Which arm was burned off? that seems a bit inconsistant to me. --Captain Jacob Rathens 19:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It's also inconsistent because they state numerous times in the Halo universe their ability to "flash clone." Which makes you question why they didn't make him a new arm.

[Response] In the books it on;y stated the possibility of cloning organs not limbs, possible because the organs are soft tissue and limbs are much more complex with cartilidge ,bones and muscles.

Wrong context?

343 said the range of the pulse not the actual power in watts, volts etc. So maybe Cortana couldn't work out the pulse genie's POWER range.

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right. maybe she meant it could deliver a larger pulse if needed. the guilty spark only stated the intended range----

Conflicts: MA5B

I believe that on page 310-311 in Halo: First Strike when the Master Chief switches from controlled bursts to full auto; he is mer