Editing Talk:D20 Heron

hey wait a minute, aren't these albatrosses?

No they arn't they are much larger than the albatross [[User talk:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 00:47, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

==Article Title?==

Hey, I was just wondering, does this article need to be called simply the "Pod"? To me, using just the word "pod" just seems too generic. "Pod" could mean anything. While I'm not saying that pod isn't good enough, and I'm pretty sure I may have heard one of the characters in ''Halo Wars'' refer to them simply as "pods", but, on the flip side, it just seems to lack a worthy title as to the hinting at the purpose of the Pod. In light of this, if I may be so bold, to propose a conjectural title as befitting the Pod's purpose--deployment of materiél, vehicles and troops; thus it should be called something like ''"Deployment Pod"''. As I said, the new article title I'm proposing as entirely conjectural, as the ''Halo Essential Visual Guide'' does not or fails to offer any further information as to the official, canon name of this as-yet-to-be-identified vehicle, and the vehicle's purpose other than what we already know from the ''Halo Wars'' RTS video game and its accompanying strategy game guide, unless some of us forgot to read the guide for further information, which seems doubtful and unlikely. If someone could go and do a little more research using the available materials and reference books and be able to supply a more legitimate article title that is in keeping with the name "Pod", but with something less generic and more specific as to its nature as a heavy dropship of sorts, a "deployment pod", or something, anything at all, that would or might reveal what this thing is really called. Or failing that, we could do either one of three things: we could keep the original article title, or go with a somewhat conjectural article title, or just forget the whole discussion and drop the matter entirely. Overall, I just think this could use some change. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 18:01, 6 February 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

== Scaling the Pod ==

Someone who is considerably more computer savvy than me will have to do this, but I think I know of a way we can work out the Pod's length and height: By taking [[:File:SoF profile.png|this profile shot]] of the ''Spirit of Fire'', which we know to be 2.5km long, would it not be possible to work out the length and height of one of the five Pods docked on the side? Failing that, there's always [[:File:HaloWars-SOF-Space.jpg|this shot]], but the Pods are less visible.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 06:48, 16 November 2012 (EST)
:Very late to this party, but the methodology is good, but the Herons are parked with their noses out. They pull out and then turn. So while this number a little off from actual, it depicts the width of the Heron, not the length. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 10:58, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

== The Spirit's Pods ==
Does the Spirit have ten of these still when arriving at the Ark? We clearly saw half of them get destroyed when that Covenant destroyer hit the ship in Halo Wars when it entered the shield world. Should we assume this is a retcon?[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 01:06, 2 March 2017 (EST)

:Well, as per the newest Loot Crate and the Phoenix Logs, we do know the ''SoF'' has the capability to construct new vehicles and other materiel. Granted, the Herons seem a big extensive for onboard factories, but that's probably the explanation. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 05:50, 2 March 2017 (EST)

==Standardising dropship naming==
This was a discussion me and [[User:JackVibe]] had on the Discord yesterday, but I wanted to write it up a bit more formally here, as it might be a major change. In sum, the naming convention of our articles on UNSC dropships (or more widely, aircraft as a whole) is not consistent, and it's an issue we noticed specifically with regards to the Heron.

Most UNSC aircraft articles (ie [[AV-14 Hornet]] or [[AC-220 Vulture]]) are given simple names as per the wiki's standard on article naming (that is, to preference simple names rather than excessively formal/complicated ones). The exceptions here are the [[D77-TC Pelican]] (and derivatives), [[D81-LRT Condor]], [[D82-EST Darter]] and [[D96-TCE Albatross]]. In all four instances here, there's a second part of the code added to the designation ''after'' the primary model code, which is just an acronym of the vehicle's formal designation (ie ''TC = Troop Carrier'', ''EST = Equipment & Supply Transport'' etc). This means that for consistency, we should really have the D20 Heron article name be ''D20-HLV Heron'', and the D102 Owl as ''D102-IC Owl''. 

However, for more consistency across the rest of the site, we should probably do the inverse and standardise the four linked articles above (plus all of their subvariants) to use the naming convention currently seen on this page/the Owl, as to be more consistent with the ground vehicles and other aircraft. This would involve the following renames, all essentially dropping the second part of the designation.
*[[D77-TC Pelican]] -> D77 Pelican
**[[D77H-TCI Pelican]] -> D77H Pelican
**[[D77C-NMPD Pelican]] -> Merge in with [[D77C Pelican]] (they're both essentially describing the same content)
*[[D79-TC Pelican]] -> D79 Pelican
*[[G79H-TC Pelican]] -> G79 Pelican
*[[D78-TC Pelican]] -> D78 Pelican
*[[D75-TC Pelican]] -> D75 Pelican
**[[D75-TC/r Pelican]] -> D75/r Pelican
**[[D75-TC/g Pelican]] -> D75/g Pelican
*[[D81-LRT Condor]] -> D81 Condor
*[[D82-EST Darter]] -> D82 Darter
*[[D96-TCE Albatross]] -> D96 Albatross

The following dropship articles would be unaffected (and standardised as a whole).
*[[G77S Pelican]]
*[[D102 Owl]] (would otherwise be standardised to ''D201-IC Owl'')
*[[D81WP Condor]]
*[[U81 Condor]]
*[[G81 Condor]] (would otherwise be standardised to ''G81-HG Condor'')
*[[D80 Condor]]
*[[D20 Heron]] (would otherwise be standardised to ''D20-HLV Heron'')

To reiterate, this is not an argument based on lore; it is purely one rooted in wiki standardisation for article naming. The actual presentation in the pages' text will be unchanged. By doing this, we bring the aforementioned dropships in line with both ground vehicles alongside the AV-series aircraft page names, which I think is preferable. Normally I'd just proceed with these renames without much fuss given that they mostly concern fairly minor topics all things considered, but the D77 Pelican is something where I'd be hesitant to do such a change without first getting some opinions down on paper. [[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 09:26, February 18, 2025 (EST)