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A Tiny Correction

In the trivia about Chief killing the ODST's on the Atlas, it says "This does not seem to stop them from working to their utmost efficiency during the Battle of Installation 00.[24]" I was wondering why someone picked that battle. Chief has fought with ODST's before, most noticeably the Assault on Delta Halo. I reccomend a line like "This does not seem to stop them from working to their utmost efficiency in any of their battles beside him." or something.

Featured Article

This article has been the featured article of halopedia for 5 months now, isn't it about time for another article to get that title?

Edit: Is has now the been featured article of Halopedia for 7 months! Will you ever change it?! Baryon15 12:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

8 freaking months! we need a new feature article.Agent Tasmania 10:24, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Categorized Discussion

Why are they choosen, yet they can volunter

In Halo: The Flood it mentions the ODST's with having an eye piece on their helmets, this sounds the same as the regular marines in Halo: Combat Evolved. It confuses me, can someone tell me why this is? User:Joshua 029

Dunno?142.59.133.15 05:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The reason is sometime between Halo 1 and 2, the amour is changed into body suits.--File:Hunter large.jpg|35px]] never ending-summerMy personal COM chanel 07:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Is it just the 105th that are called "Helljumpers"? I was under the impression (although I'd have to head to a library and check out the earlier books) that the term "Helljumpers" applied to all ODSTs.

"Helljumpers" is the name of all ODSTs, but the 105th Division is the only one that we have read about in the books. -ED 02:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Mental instability

In one of the books (I forget) it mentions that ODSTs are slightly wacko as a result of being dropped from space in a sealed coffin to the surface of the planet. I think it's in the Fall of Reach - I'll dig out my copy sometime and add a bit to the article.Andrew-147 21:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it just said a person would have to be crazy to volunteer to do that. -ED 02:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
They are "wacko" because they want to do that, not because they do it.-User:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato

HellJumpers

HellJumpers are applied to all ODSTS because since the HEVS have a thin shell the heat of the friction it's almost 'like hell'.

142.59.133.15 05:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't really think that's what "Helljumpers" mean. -Blemo 04:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm with Blemo on this one, it states in the books the nickname was coined do to their motto "Feet first into hell". -Ergna-

It does actually say in "The Flood" that part of the reason they're called Helljumpers is because of the extreme heat when they drop in their HEV's. However in Fall of Reach it also says it's related to their motto, which is related to the HEV pods in which they drop, which heats up like hell...you're both right -- Rokrin

well the reoson i think there called helljumpers is because the heat there pods get when dropping into atmosphere,its related to ur ansewers.and another reason i think is cuz they drop right into the enemy lines they call "hell" --ODSTsoldier9 "

Kudoes to ODSTsoldier9, but everybody is on the right track as well. "Droppin' into hell" comes from the fact that most ODST's are doing high risk missions that require them to drop behind enemy lines, which they consider "hell" because the covenant are ruthless and take control. - Pierre a.k.a. Ratch3t 407 (xbox live)

SAS

is it not safe to say that the ODST are the future equivilent of the british S.A.S just with better stuff. User:Kami-Sama

will someone answer my question please User:Kami-Sama

Actually, they're based on the US Navy SEALS. but they're probably up there with the best, like the NZSAS =D. -- SpecOps306 19:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

They seem more like the 101st Airbone (Not Spec Ops) to me...--User:JohnSpartan117 03:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

If you ask me, their a combination of US Army Rangers, US Marines, AND US Navy SEALS. (CommanderTony)

Peh, if you ask me there not based on anything, thier role is to plumit to earth it metal box's sound fimiler?, plus the SAS has a wide veriety of roles most of which kept secret --Climax-Void File:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] Chat or My Contributions

they are described in the books as being an elite force, reminiscent of the Navy SEALS and Marine Corps of the US today. but don't discount the SAS either, because they are also the elite, and are also trained to deal with almost every kind of environment or scenario, like the ODST's and SEALS. File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 23:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

If this is true then we also can't leave out Delta Force either, since they're US SpecOps team of sorts, and apparently basically the same as the SAS -- Rokrin
  • whatever they are, I think speak for most people when I say THEY RAWK HARD AND KICK ASS! Leonidas-300 04:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

why were people specifying the 101st Airborn? they would be futuristic paratroopers. Agent Tasmania 08:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC) ODSTs are not special operation forces like SAS or Seals that work on individual to squad level but special forces like Rangers or elite forces like the 101st that work in squad to platoon size force.

I agree with Commander Tony but,I think that they are based off of Marine Force Recon more than anything--4.153.69.196 16:34, November 28, 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST

To answer the original question I'm sure every country has a unit they could qualify as being a base for the ODST's--4.153.69.196 16:38, November 28, 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST

Space

Does the ODST armor provide the abbality to breath in space? In the level Cario Station you can see dead ODSTs near space. I just want to know. (Spartan 104 Raido Spartan 104 What Binsetti Could of Done File:ESE.JPG|100px]] 19:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC))

It looks contained, so maybe. --Dragonclaws(talk) 00:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Maybe that's why they were dead? -- SpecOps306 00:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

No, actually, everytime you head out into space, you will encounter ODSTs and enemies, like Elite Rangers. Maybe they killed them, because ODSTs are not dumb enough to walk into space knowing their armor cannot support them. -File:Spartan with Sniper Rifle and Shotgun.jpg|50px]] Blemo Talk Contributions File:UoH.gif|30px]]

True --Captain Jacob Rathens 21:11, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I really think that ODSTs are really smarter than that. -File:Spartan with Sniper Rifle and Shotgun.jpg|50px]] Blemo Talk Contributions File:UoH.gif|30px]] 04:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The answer is yes it can. Look at the body suit page which is what the ODST's wear.

Yes they can. In the new book "The Cole Protocol" it says that the ODST suit has 15 minutes of air in a total Vacuum. Gundam94

The thing I dont get [and hope that Bungie fixes]is that in the ODST game commercial The Rookie has gloves with all his fingers poking out,but that doesnt make a lot of since because I thought that in order to be droped through the atmospher in an HEV, the suit would have to be full[covering everthing]and almost pressurized?--4.152.165.158 16:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST

Let me knock some senses into those brains... Maybe his gloves got torn when he exited the HEV?- 5əb'7aŋk(7alk) 16:59, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
On a ton of ODST videos they all have fingerless gloves. Agent Tasmania 08:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


Sorry,not TRYING to sound stupid it just doesn't make any sense,I mean think about it how would he tear his gloves exiting it and all of them on both hands for that matter?Aw...what am I even talking about ODST's probably have the option of wearing full gloves or half gloves--4.153.71.122 00:03, November 28, 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST

Halo: Last Standing ODST

Hi, I managed to find a high-res ODST picture from the 405th site. I am not claim responsibility but do ask them if you can use it for the Halopedia site. Here you go: ODSTs from the Live Action

Actually, nevermind, I found them at: Halo.Bungie.Org

Yeah, we've already got those ^^ --Ajax 013 12:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Where?

Red Patch Theory

ok, so we're studying the Mexican War in rotc today. During the Battle of Chapultepec, many Marine NCO's and officers were killed because they were fighting on the front lines. In their honor, NCO's and officers were then required to wear a red stripe on their pant legs, a "bloodstripe". as many have pointed out, it may be the sergeants who wear the red patch. Leonidas-300 05:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Also this is a good assumption this is incorrect the red and white are however ranks but the white means officers and the red means enlisted-USMCR3c0n

  • No offense, USMCR3cOn, but I think ur wrong. Why would white mean officers and red mean enlisted? It wouldnt make sense that much, as when you play alongside groups of ODSTs, there are always more white patches than there are red patches. Why would 3 Lieutenants or Sergeants, be leading just one private? Also in Halo 3 "The Covenant" Mission, u can hear the ODST with the red patch yelling out orders and pointing out objectives to the others. oh, and Leonidas-300, nice example using the Battle of Chapultepec dude. --User:Mesz4160

Uniform

Got a question. Do the ODSTs always wear the ODST bodysuits in combat, or do they also wear standard Marine outfits? --UNSC Trooper File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] TalkMy Work 15:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Most of the time they wear the black bodysuits but if I remember correctly, in "halo: the flood" they wore the standard marine uniforms. Hope that clears it up. If I made a mistake let me know. Leonidas-300 12:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

They do sometimes wear the standard ballistic armor issued to the regular marines, In HALO: combat evolved 1 of the main characters STG. Pete stacker was an ODST he's that what STG you always see running around and he's also the ODST in Halo2 at Mombasa, also corporal Lockler another ODST in HALO: combat evolved one of the few that survived the onslaught of the flood is an ODST and he is also in HALO: First Strike both of these men are wearing the standard ballistics armor-USMCR3c0n

Huh,didn't it say that the body suit has 15 minutes of oxygen and was sealed tightly.If that is so,then why did the odsts in Delta Halo drowned?--Odst276 13:29, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Odst276

Maybe they were koncked unconsious in the landing, like the Rookie was KO for 6 hours after an awry landing.Agent Tasmania 10:28, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Relations with SPARTANS

The article says that because the Chief beat up two ODST's, that that is why the relationship between the two are uneasy. But I recall the reason being that SPARTANS got more fame and glory for doing dangerous missions that ODSTs could do, but without the augmentations. They didn't like that they were lab projects, while ODSTs were tough on their own merits. I am not entirely sure, since this was in the The FLood, but I really don't think that two soldiers being beaten up is what caused tight relations.XRoadToDawnX 04:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


It wasn't that he beat up 2 he killed to and injured 2 others as a teenager therefore they were mad that even in all their awesome badassness that they got their asses kicked by a 16-17 year old kid-USMCR3c0n He was 14 (suck that helljumpers!) he was 14 when he got augmentations and the incedent happened a few days later--58.107.129.103 10:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


They could also be jealous of SPARTAN-IIs too ya know? I mean, everybody considered them as the most badass, elite force that could do and accomplish nearly any mission. They were like heroes of the UNSC, being able to do stuff that regular marines couldn't do. And the ODSTs liked that glory. And then came the SPARTAN-IIs, who quickly proved themselves to be much more stronger, deadlier, and effecient in combat. ODSTs couldn't hold a candle to Spartans, and everybody realized it. ODSTs werent the heroes of the UNSCDF anymore, the Spartans were; They stole all their glory. They even got way better equipment than they did, like MJOLNIR, which got repeatedly revamped and improved, while they were stuck with their normal equipment. They are jealous that the Spartans can be that powerful (individually by augumentations, and as a force), got way more fame than they ever did, and have all this amazing tech to use in battle, and they cant. To make it short, if I am correct, ODSTs hate Spartans because they can't be like Spartans --User:Mesz4160

It might be, that the ODSTs whom we see in Halos 2 and 3, don't have a problem with Spartans. The ODSTs in on Alpha Halo, didn't like the Chief, because of Silva being the CO of the three ODSTs killed by John on the Atlas. Its unlikely that several battallions of ODSTs, would hate the Spartans as much as Silva's did. Most ODSTs probably realize that with so few Spartans around (33 from John's class, plus however many from the second group of Spartan IIs (have to wait until Halo: Reach to get the numbers)) there will be plenty of action. A Marine Corps friend of mine in Afghanistan, has told me about some of the times where SEALs have worked with the Marines. The SEALs will go in to "soften up" an area, do recon, etc., but its the Marines who actually do most of the fighting. The missions which the Spartans go on, are often recon, assassination, or ones in which they sneak into a covenant ship/base to blow it up. The Spartans haven't really been seen to do large scale engagements. The ODSTs have. -- User:Nomad117

Wait a minute. The Spartans were responsible for thousand of Covenant kills on Jericho and who knows what other planets. So while it is fair to say that most of their operations were recon and special ops and the like. It is not fair to say that they haven't done any large scale engagements. Psycho60 19:23, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget that the Spartans where chosen because of there prime physical status, before they underwent training and augmentation. --L33tmcphee 04:17, December 13, 2009 (UTC)l33tmcphee

ODSTs in Halo: Combat Evolved

I notice throughout the page it says that ODST's make their first visual appearance in Halo Combat Evolved. That information is incorrect, I don't know who has access to editing the page but whoever does please remove that information as it is false.

Actually, it's true. According to Halo: The Flood, the majority of the Marines you fight alongside are ODST's, minus their distinctive bodysuits. Considering the nature of the Pillar of Autumn's mission, to capture a Prophet, it makes sense they'd be packing some serious firepower - not just in weapons, but in personnel. --CoH|Councillor]] Specops306 - Qur'a UserWiki:Specops306|'Morhek]] 02:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I not agree with that though, there is no way that a ODST would drop without wearing their body suit. The HEV is a dangerous craft and heat alone is a serious problem, the body suit was designed to keep the soldier as cool as possible during atmospheric entry.

With a sudden escape from Reach, and a rather sudden contact with the Covenant, it may be possible that they either: (a). Had no time to suit up, or (b). They failed to have the specific equipment ready in time. A