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==Leg Numbers== Edited the number of Scarab legs from "four or six" to simply "four." No source given, and no reference to where a six-legged Scarab is ever seen. [[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] 09:56, 18 Dec 2009 (UTC) : Six-Legged Scarabs don't exist. Maybe in some art novel. But not in any game. [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby <span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 20:14, June 12, 2010 (UTC) ==Different Types== This page seems to be dedicated to the scarab of [[Halo 3]]. should there not be pages for the Halo 2 scarab and Halo Wars scarab? [[User:VanFlyhight|VanFlyhight]] 18:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC) ==How is the Scarab deployed?== Has anyone wondered how they get the Scarab from their starship to the planet surface? Unless its carried in parts by Phantoms, they would need some kind of larger landing barge for it, possibly the Covenant equivalent of the Albatross? :Or, maybe you could play through Halo 3, and notice that on [[H3:The Covenant|The Covenant]], they free fall, and have small stabilizing boosters to help them land. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|Jakalope]] 17:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC) note that on the cruisers there are gravity lifts, they may have larger ones dedicated to the scarabs A: they are dropped from Covenant starships in space, not unlike UNSC orbital drop pods, and do in fact thrusters on their legs to break their fall. Bustie24 15:30, March 25, 2010 (UTC) ==Scarab is Covenant species/Hunter variation?== I heard somewhere that a Bungie official said that the Hunters we saw in Halo 2 were just the "tip of the iceberg". Maybe the scarabs are types of hunters! They bleed orange, they have lekgolo worms, and when you melee the core, you hear the squishy flesh sound. And, there's apparently no driver. Think about it. Why would they design a weak point and weak joints? :This theory's been about since Halo 3 came out. About the 'weak points', anything that requires four direct hits from a Scorpion to get temporarily disabled is hardly what I would call weak. Also, think about the Halo 3 Wraith. That's got a lovely little disc on the back that can be used to destroy it really quickly. Same for the 'eyes' of a Phantom. All vehicles have a weak point for balanca reasons. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|Jakalope]] 17:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC) ::This is correct and will be confirmed on the assembly map on the mythic map pack. Watch red vs blue video on it for more. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQBTN8J_DFE&feature=channel_page] [[User talk:Josh40|Josh40]] 00:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC) ::Actually, scarabs are justhuge machines deployed from Covenant dropships. JUST MACHINES!!! not hunters, and as it turns out, they were originally used for mining, so they didn't really need armour, which explains the weak leg joints. Bustie24 15:29, March 25, 2010 (UTC) :::You are partially correct, while they are machines, they are controlled by [[Lekgolo]] worms which also compose the Hunter. CoH/Member List#Field Masters|<span style="color:gold">''Field''</span>]] UoH/Member List#Colonel|<span style="color:#000000">''Master''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Spartansniper</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">50</span>]] 16:59, March 25, 2010 (UTC) ::: :::So basically, Scarabs are technically controlled by Hunters. :D ==Scarab AI== Does the Halo 3 scarab game AI <i>really</i> deserve its own section? --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 03:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC) ==Scarab Similarities to old Scarab, and deleted Fanon== I have majorly revised the Halo 3 scarab section, clearing up grammar and fanon (such as it being controlled by an AI). I have also broken it up into (slightly) more readable chunks then the wall of text, and added numerous observations on its features and decks that seemed to go unnoticed, based off my observation of the expanded game image I link on the last paragraph. Hope you guys like the revisions and dont find any of the observations to be in confusing wording! ^_^ --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 06:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC) ==repeat, repeat, repeat!== they've mentioned the "scarab has legs instead of the BPS like other covenant vehicles" about 3 times! it's quite annoying == confused == i've been wondering,how do they get the scarab in they're ships?the grav lift seams to small and the docking bays ARE to small?where do they store it and how do they get it back in there? Have u seen regret's assault carrier compared to IAC?, then comapre a peli to IAC then a peli to a scarab---cHR0n0sPh3r3 Where they store it? hmmm... let me think about that, Oh, I know! In the ''hangar'', where all the vehicles go... [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 23:01, April 27, 2010 (UTC) :True, the hanger, but I think he was looking for specifics. You don't store PELICANS! (awesome) in a Longswod hanger. The Phantom hanger of a Covie cruiser is probably not the best place to put a Scarab. And cHR0n0s, please google 'grammar' and read up on it. This is not a text message or some IM. I would hope people here would aim for a bit higher degree of professionalism. Thanks. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 00:13, April 28, 2010 (UTC) ::If you look at the end of the level [[H3:Floodgate|Floodgate]] you will notice that the Phantoms are parked in there, along with a huge [[UNSC Frigate|Frigate]], I think they could fit a scarab in there too. [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 00:41, April 28, 2010 (UTC) :::THey probably could. You could also fit a PELICAN in a Longsword hanger, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the best/right place to store it. I suspect the Scarabs are placed in some sort of hanger with release doors on the bottom and/or sides to allow the Scarabs to drop/walk out onto the battlefield. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 00:45, April 28, 2010 (UTC) ::::Looks at this File:AC_Cargobay.jpg, and note under the hangar that it has a Grav lift, compare it to the rest of the 5K long ship, and I'd say a Scarab could fit through that. [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 00:54, April 28, 2010 (UTC) :::::I see. I'm not saying you're wrong...just that the Scarab ''could'' go somewhere else, and perhaps it is ''better'' to put it somewhere else, not that it ''can't'' fit in a Phantom hanger. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 00:58, April 28, 2010 (UTC) ::::::I realise this fact, I'm just saying, hell, they might even have something up in the roof of the hangar to dangle the scarabs off, that then lifts them out of the hangar, to be dropped from the section just in front of it. Or maybe, they deploy them like they deploy the the aliens in War of the worlds, out of the cannon ;D [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 01:02, April 28, 2010 (UTC) :::::::Gotcha. That is a possibility. Maybe you should ask the Covenant how they prefer to deploy their Scarabs. Maybe they'll even give you a demonstration. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 01:04, April 28, 2010 (UTC) :::::::::I think I'll pass on that idea... sounds a tad too risky. [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 01:08, April 28, 2010 (UTC) ::::::::They said they deploy it from high altitude and the lumbering behemoth somehow survives the drop and gets right back to 'devastating' the UNSC. then PELICANS come in and rip it to shreds because nothing can stop them. That actually brings me to my next two points: why did they send in Master Chief when a flight of PELICANS could have devastated the entire Covenant? And secondly, the two Scarabs on [[H3:The Covenant|The Covenant]]...they drop out of nowhere. There's no ship for them to come down from if I recall correctly, and when you look up, they don't spawn. You have to look away. Odd. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 01:12, April 28, 2010 (UTC) Suppose it's just for gameplay reasons... give you something interesting to fight... although, if you look at the Scarab in H2, hundreds of missiles from Pelicans did absolutely nothing... I reckon the ones in the Game are made weaker or strong depending on what you got to do, H2 Scarab, indestructable except for by completing the level, while the common ones in H3, are completely destructable. Other wise they would be boring enemies to fight constantly aye? [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 01:31, April 28, 2010 (UTC) :That's just the difference between the games. Although they made the Scarabs indestructible because if Chief were to see one, it'd instantly explode, and you wouldn't be able board it. I do detest things like that, like in ''Halo: CE'' how nothing was destructible and nothing could move those pesky Covenant crates. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 01:35, April 28, 2010 (UTC) :Maybe Scarabs got a flying engine in their belly. Just a mad idea, but it could be right. [[User talk:Youngrubby|Youngrubby]] 19:39, June 8, 2010 (UTC) == Halo 3 == That walker in Halo 3 IS NOT a Scarab, look at it, it's smaller, its body is a different shape with it being more bulbous at the end, it mounts a smaller plasma beam that seems weaker and a second one on its rear and it seems vulnerable to small arms fire (as it suffers damage to its legs from rocket strikes). It is also purple, does no longer seem to have a lower interior deck and its legs are different. [[User: Ajax 013| Ajax 013]] July the 12th :The walker is very similar to the Scarab. Yes, it is possible that Bungie made another new walker, but it is just as likely if not even more likely that they remodeled it. The Scarab in the trailer and the Scarab on this page are similar enough that they are instantly recognized as being such. --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 17:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC) ::I think that this the same Scarab but has some new aditions. [[User:Clavix2|Clavix2]] 17:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC) :::Did either of you even compare the image to that of the Scarab. It would be like remoddling the Wraith into a Ghost. Apart from the legs and the green glowing 'eye' they look very much different [[User: Ajax 013| Ajax 013]] July the 12th ::::Maybe it's a Brute Scarab? They remodelled the Plasma Rifle didn't they? Why not the awesomely powerful Scarab? --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 18:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Here's something to think about. Scarabs were designed for mining, not combat. The ones used in Halo 2 were just makeshift weapons that Regret deployed. The major refinement to the legs in the screenshot seems to be extra armor - as could be the purple plating. This may be because they're adapting something that proved effective in combat to a combat role, or it could be the Brutes' natural instinct to destroy everything showing through. That could also, easily, explain the new thing on the tail of it - which looks like a weapon emplacement that could have been added. --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 18:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC) :Perhaps a comment should be added to the article about the dispute about what it is. If it ends up not being a Scarab, we can update appropriately when the game is released --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 18:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC) ::Maybe i should note that 'inesctoid mining vehicle' was never expressly named as the Scarab. Also why would the scarab need to be refitted with extra armor, it was virtually impenetrable to start with and if they did 'refit' it, it seems a rather silly and extensive refit. Considering they reduced its size by about 1/3, changed the positioning of its legs, changed the whole body size and layout, changed the legs, the main plasma weapon, removed the controls from its belly, rearranged its guns into two weaker plasma guns and a bunch of other 'extensive refits'...... seems rather silly as a refit, no? Also the new walker is vulnerable to small arms fire from missiles where as the Scarab is immune to even scorpion and wraith tanks (which the excavator is not). And this whole thing of calling it 'a different scarab' is like calling the ghost a 'different wraith'. [[User: Ajax 013| Ajax 013]] July the 12th The argument that the walker is vulnerable to small arms fire is an unfair assessment. Phantoms and Pelicans have, likewise, been made vulnerable to small arms fire. That was a redesign from a conceptual level rather than a redesign from inside the Halo Universe. After all, they destroyed a Scarab with moderate difficulty at the beginning of GoO and, IIRC, they didn't use things more powerful than rockets and tanks. --[[User:206.75.46.254|206.75.46.254]] 20:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Forgottenlord not logged in Hmmm, a valid arguement but in Halo 2 its atchually ben noted as being impervious to UNSC weaponary. Its noted that rockets, .50 cal rounds and 90mm anti tank shells and between 8-16 ANVIL-II missiles seem to have no effect however either. Infact, according to Halo 2 its only weakness is boarding and sabotage from the deck underneath. Of course a counter arguement can be that the attack in the trailer only shows its legs and outwards objects being disabled and infact master chief easily obliterates an object just inside it rumoured to be its power core with a Spiker and makes it explode violently. [[User: Ajax 013| Ajax 013]] July the 13th I have noticed that at one point in the E3 2007 trailer that the Chief and the Arbiter are standing and behind them is an original Scarab, it looks way more similar to the Halo 2 version than the new one. I believe that the new vehicle is not a Scarab. (By the way it might just be the Chief standing) Im not signed in but I am SPARTAN-101 Crikey! so many people batting the "is it or isnt it" about! Why cant it simply be a Scarab Mk II? Its a far more efficient and advanced design than the one used in Halo 2, but it is still recognisably a Scarab, regardless of design, purpose or armament. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 03:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC) It looks like a very redisigned battle scarab, or perhaps a brute scarab. However it still retains, large legs, cannons, and decks, so I think its fair to call it a Scarab from now. And just because they can be damaged by weapons now means nothing. Phantoms can be damaged now, but they are still phantoms, right? --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 06:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC) The argument of it now being weak to small arms fire has nothing to do with it being a new vehicle. I think that was more of a gameplay choice than anything. After all, it is more fun to fight it and have it fight you than to follow it and kill some Covenant to board it. Also, if it has four legs, one or more large lasers, and is big enough to ride, it's a Scarab.[[User:ArchonGold|ArchonGold]] 22:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC) In Halo 3 (The Storm), at the same time the "walker" appears, Sgt. Johnson says "Scarab! Find some cover." So obviously it is a Scarab.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 23:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC) == Action Clix Scarab == Just in: [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=12677| Scarab Action Clix] Should we use some of the pictures there? They're in pretty good detail... I'm just wondering, cause it's a toy... But it IS Halo 3 cannon. '''UPDATE!''' In game shot from WizKids! [http://www.wizkidsgames.com/halo/images/Halo_Scarab_Large.jpg|H3 Scarab] --'''[[User:Knuxchao|<font color="Goldenrod">Reborn Knuxchao</font>]] <small> <sub>[[User_talk:Knuxchao|<font color="DarkGoldenrod">T</font>]]</sub> <sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Knuxchao|<font color="SaddleBrown">C</font>]]</sup> </sub> <sup>[[Special:Random|<font color="Black">R</font>]]</sup></small>''' 03:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC) == Size == To me it dosn't look any smaller than it was in Halo 2.And if it is smaller is possible if someone could find out the size or the measured difference?--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 01:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)BLARGH!!! **I agree, I do not remember there ever being a scale to the models and such, so I think calling it smaller is just speculation and should be removed. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 01:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC) Well it appears to be much lower to the ground (using Warthogs and mongooses running around its feet along with master chief shooting at its underbelly in its vid) so if scale to existing vehicles and palyers isn't worth anything, i don't know what is. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 02:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC) This seemed like a good place to put this...as soon as I watched the "A Spartan Shall Rise" ViDoc, I noticed that the Scarab in that ViDoc is huge. The crashing Pelican is about the size of its AA Cannon...No amount of perspective could cause this. Although it could be a "Super Scarab," so to speak, I find this doubtful. -- [[User talk:Joseph-G111|Joseph-G111]] == Designation? == Where did the "Type-47 Ultra Heavy Assault Platform" come from? Source NEEDED! It should read; "Scarab -Type-47 Ultra Heavy Assault Platform" the type 47 is more of a technical designation. == Halo 3 scarab made with lekgolo worms? == Yesterday when I was killing the 2nd scarab,after I killed the guards I went to the core after I took down the shield I noticed worms or something sliming around the sides I thought for a second killed it a nd ran for my freaking life(It started making that screeching exploding noise right as soon as I killed it.[[User:SPARTAN 346|God bless Halo]] 16:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC) When you shoot the core it bleeds and the 'blood' looks like a darker colour of hunter blood. [[User:Alexspartan117|Alexspartan117]] 16:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC) Trust me, the Scarab isn't made of Lekgolos. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 17:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC) [http://www.example.com Maybe not] but they do appear to be driven by them --[[User talk:RSIxidor|RSIxidor]] 18:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC) you know when you flip the elephant, it says "wait what, how did u do that?" Imagine if you could drive that scarab in multiplayer mode and somebody flips its, imagine what funny things it could say:):):). There definitely seems to be something biological about the scarab. Zoom in on the core and it does look like a hive of worms(like the Lekgolo). Also, remember when you are storming the citadel and have to fight two scarabs. When the scarabs hit the ground, they lift up and roar in to the sky. Other than intimidation, why would the brutes piloting these monoliths make the machines roar in such a living way? Perhaps the Covenant are delving in to bio-mechanics? Its worth consideration.--[[User:ThePeoplesMark|ThePeoplesMark]] 09:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC) After some investigation, shooting rockets into the core causes orange blood to spray out, a