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:::I think the term "Covenant remnant" should be used to identify either a group that is attempting to recreate the Covenant, or a group that has members from multiple former Covenant races. As far as we know, Lydus' clan does not have any non-Jiralhanae members. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 17:25, 29 January 2015 (EST) | :::I think the term "Covenant remnant" should be used to identify either a group that is attempting to recreate the Covenant, or a group that has members from multiple former Covenant races. As far as we know, Lydus' clan does not have any non-Jiralhanae members. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 17:25, 29 January 2015 (EST) | ||
::::One might say "Covenant remnants" are groups that are defined by the Covenant's cultural, social or religious influence. That said, I think the Covenant remnants page works quite well as it is; for example, the Abiding Truth is actually pre-Covenant and Sangheili-only, yet it rose to prominence as its own faction only after the Covenant's fall. Same with Lydus' group. They are technically just another Jiralhanae master-pack, but I would say the fact they have enough influence to matter in the grand scheme of things warrants them a place on the list. That, and the major groups are easier to find when they're all in one place. Note that neither this article or the Covenant remnants one actually call Lydus' clan a Covenant remnant faction at any point; they're just listed as one for the sake of convenience. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:07, 30 January 2015 (EST) | ::::One might say "Covenant remnants" are groups that are defined by the Covenant's cultural, social or religious influence. That said, I think the Covenant remnants page works quite well as it is; for example, the Abiding Truth is actually pre-Covenant and Sangheili-only, yet it rose to prominence as its own faction only after the Covenant's fall. Same with Lydus' group. They are technically just another Jiralhanae master-pack, but I would say the fact they have enough influence to matter in the grand scheme of things warrants them a place on the list. That, and the major groups are easier to find when they're all in one place. Note that neither this article or the Covenant remnants one actually call Lydus' clan a Covenant remnant faction at any point; they're just listed as one for the sake of convenience. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:07, 30 January 2015 (EST) | ||