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'''Current list of individuals whose deaths have been noted in H4:FUD:''' | '''Current list of individuals whose deaths have been noted in H4:FUD:''' | ||
* Dimah Tchakova: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on | * Dimah Tchakova: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV(Fell to her death after pulling rank to secure a seat on the academy's orbital tether, which was then severed by a Covenant SDV-Class cruiser moments later) | ||
* Junjie Chen: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on | * Junjie Chen: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV(Impaled by a plasma sword wielded by a stealth Sangheili Zealot during the evacuation.) | ||
* Walter Vickers: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on | * Walter Vickers: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV(Impaled by a plasma sword while drawing the attention of a Sangheili Zealot away from his comrades during the evacuation.) | ||
* Col. Mehaffey: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on | * Col. Mehaffey: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV (Killed by a "super-combine" from multiple Needler impacts, offscreen due to ESRB rating.) | ||
* Gen. Black: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on | * Gen. Black: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV (HEADSHOT!!) | ||
== Move back to "Battle of Circinius IV" == | == Move back to "Battle of Circinius IV" == | ||
In ''FUD'' Part 4, the Chief tells Lasky and co. that they're the only survivors. When Lasky asks, "at the school?", the Chief replies, "no, on the planet". I think we can reasonably assume from this that the battle was planet-wide and not just restricted to Corbulo.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 07:59, 26 October 2012 (EDT) | In ''FUD'' Part 4, the Chief tells Lasky and co. that they're the only survivors. When Lasky asks, "at the school?", the Chief replies, "no, on the planet". I think we can reasonably assume from this that the battle was planet-wide and not just restricted to Corbulo.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 07:59, 26 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:I agree [[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="LimeGreen">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="RoyalBlue">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color="Salmon">0</font>]] | :I agree [[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="LimeGreen">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="RoyalBlue">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color="Salmon">0</font>]]UoH/A Company|<font color="Gold">0</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Chief frank 001|<font color="GreenYellow">1</font>]]</sup> 09:59, 26 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Yeah, the fight was over quick at the school, seems more likely it was the whole planet. | :Yeah, the fight was over quick at the school, seems more likely it was the whole planet. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 10:25, 26 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:{{Support}} - John's message to Kelly makes it clear that Spartans were deployed elsewhere on the planet. Therefore it was a planet-wide engagement. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 11:24, 26 October 2012 (EDT) | :{{Support}} - John's message to Kelly makes it clear that Spartans were deployed elsewhere on the planet. Therefore it was a planet-wide engagement. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 11:24, 26 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
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==What Other Spartans Were on Circinius?== | ==What Other Spartans Were on Circinius?== | ||
There were other spartans in the pelican, but do we know who they are? Probably should check that, see if we can find anything that would tell us who they were. If I were guessing, I'd say they're part of blue team, but we obviously can't go by that. If anything finds out who they were, put it on the wiki page for this topic, and on the pages of all people involved. This is [http://www.halopedia.org/User:CraZboy557 <span style="color:orange;">'''craZboy557'''</span>], signing off. 13:06, 31 December 2012 (EST) | There were other spartans in the pelican, but do we know who they are? Probably should check that, see if we can find anything that would tell us who they were. If I were guessing, I'd say they're part of blue team, but we obviously can't go by that. If anything finds out who they were, put it on the wiki page for this topic, and on the pages of all people involved. This is [http://www.halopedia.org/User:CraZboy557 <span style="color:orange;">'''craZboy557'''</span>], signing off. 13:06, 31 December 2012 (EST) | ||
:The other Spartans were | :The other Spartans were Kelly-087 and Frederic-104.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:16, 31 December 2012 (EST) | ||
::Thx | ::Thx | ||
This is [http://www.halopedia.org/User:CraZboy557 <span style="color:orange;">'''craZboy557'''</span>], signing off. 14:20, 9 January 2013 (EST) | This is [http://www.halopedia.org/User:CraZboy557 <span style="color:orange;">'''craZboy557'''</span>], signing off. 14:20, 9 January 2013 (EST) | ||
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I think that the "Battle of Circinius IV" or the "Massacre of Circinius IV" would be better article names for this page. What we saw of the battle was very one-sided, but we don't know what happened on the rest of the planet. The Halo Channel's Encyclopedia page for the planet may provide some insight. The "Fall" of Circinius IV implies that the planet was a major military stronghold, when it seemingly lacked a large planetside military force. The Fall of Arcadia and Reach are appropriate titles because the loss of Arcadia was damaging to moral since the planet was providing proof of humanity's resilience (especially after the Battle of Arcadia was a rare UNSC victory), while Reach was obviously a major UNSC stronghold. Circinius IV was neither of these (as far as we know). I think the "Massacre of Circinius IV" would be a more appropriate title, since the battle appeared largely one-sided. Although, again, since we don't know what was occurring on the rest of the planet, the "Battle of Circinius IV" would also be a reasonable title. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 00:02, 13 August 2014 (EDT) | I think that the "Battle of Circinius IV" or the "Massacre of Circinius IV" would be better article names for this page. What we saw of the battle was very one-sided, but we don't know what happened on the rest of the planet. The Halo Channel's Encyclopedia page for the planet may provide some insight. The "Fall" of Circinius IV implies that the planet was a major military stronghold, when it seemingly lacked a large planetside military force. The Fall of Arcadia and Reach are appropriate titles because the loss of Arcadia was damaging to moral since the planet was providing proof of humanity's resilience (especially after the Battle of Arcadia was a rare UNSC victory), while Reach was obviously a major UNSC stronghold. Circinius IV was neither of these (as far as we know). I think the "Massacre of Circinius IV" would be a more appropriate title, since the battle appeared largely one-sided. Although, again, since we don't know what was occurring on the rest of the planet, the "Battle of Circinius IV" would also be a reasonable title. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 00:02, 13 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
:It seems like ''massacre'' could be noted for a great deal of the UNSC's efforts against the Covenant during the war. Additionally, ''massacre'' could have the potential to be inferred as a more emotionally investing event than it actually is. The neutral ''battle'' would be the most preferable option in my opinion. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}} | :It seems like ''massacre'' could be noted for a great deal of the UNSC's efforts against the Covenant during the war. Additionally, ''massacre'' could have the potential to be inferred as a more emotionally investing event than it actually is. The neutral ''battle'' would be the most preferable option in my opinion. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}} | ||
::Yeah, you're right about massacre. Perhaps "battle" would be a better title. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 21:10, 26 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
==Rename again (again)== | |||
I suggest we rename it "Battle of Circinius IV". Thanks to the ''Halo 5: Guardians Limited Edition'', we've discovered that there were more events than that of ''FUD''. There are still some issues with the chronology, but I don't think we can say that the planet really "fell" in less than a day. "Battle" is more neutral. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 03:54, 27 March 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Agreed.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 06:27, 27 March 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Sounds good. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 09:58, 27 March 2016 (EDT) | |||
===John and Buck's operations=== | |||
shouldn'y Operations: PHALANX and ABLE SENTRY both be a part of this battle/fall? Why do we have them listed as taking place after 2531? -Japeth555 | |||
Latest revision as of 16:11, April 10, 2022
Body Count[edit]
At this point in the series, it might be a good idea to start keeping track of the casualties, as I suspect they will be mounting rather quickly. (I've removed the Spoiler Tags, given that Dimah's own page has now been updated.) Feel free to add to it as the count rises. DJenser 12:44, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
Current list of individuals whose deaths have been noted in H4:FUD:
- Dimah Tchakova: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV(Fell to her death after pulling rank to secure a seat on the academy's orbital tether, which was then severed by a Covenant SDV-Class cruiser moments later)
- Junjie Chen: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV(Impaled by a plasma sword wielded by a stealth Sangheili Zealot during the evacuation.)
- Walter Vickers: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV(Impaled by a plasma sword while drawing the attention of a Sangheili Zealot away from his comrades during the evacuation.)
- Col. Mehaffey: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV (Killed by a "super-combine" from multiple Needler impacts, offscreen due to ESRB rating.)
- Gen. Black: 2526, KIA vs. Covenant on Circinius IV (HEADSHOT!!)
Move back to "Battle of Circinius IV"[edit]
In FUD Part 4, the Chief tells Lasky and co. that they're the only survivors. When Lasky asks, "at the school?", the Chief replies, "no, on the planet". I think we can reasonably assume from this that the battle was planet-wide and not just restricted to Corbulo.--The All-knowing Sith'ari 07:59, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
- Yeah, the fight was over quick at the school, seems more likely it was the whole planet. Col. Snipes450 10:25, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
Support - John's message to Kelly makes it clear that Spartans were deployed elsewhere on the planet. Therefore it was a planet-wide engagement. --Courage never dies. 11:24, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
What Other Spartans Were on Circinius?[edit]
There were other spartans in the pelican, but do we know who they are? Probably should check that, see if we can find anything that would tell us who they were. If I were guessing, I'd say they're part of blue team, but we obviously can't go by that. If anything finds out who they were, put it on the wiki page for this topic, and on the pages of all people involved. This is craZboy557, signing off. 13:06, 31 December 2012 (EST)
- The other Spartans were Kelly-087 and Frederic-104.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs 13:16, 31 December 2012 (EST)
- Thx
This is craZboy557, signing off. 14:20, 9 January 2013 (EST)
Rename again...[edit]
I think that the "Battle of Circinius IV" or the "Massacre of Circinius IV" would be better article names for this page. What we saw of the battle was very one-sided, but we don't know what happened on the rest of the planet. The Halo Channel's Encyclopedia page for the planet may provide some insight. The "Fall" of Circinius IV implies that the planet was a major military stronghold, when it seemingly lacked a large planetside military force. The Fall of Arcadia and Reach are appropriate titles because the loss of Arcadia was damaging to moral since the planet was providing proof of humanity's resilience (especially after the Battle of Arcadia was a rare UNSC victory), while Reach was obviously a major UNSC stronghold. Circinius IV was neither of these (as far as we know). I think the "Massacre of Circinius IV" would be a more appropriate title, since the battle appeared largely one-sided. Although, again, since we don't know what was occurring on the rest of the planet, the "Battle of Circinius IV" would also be a reasonable title. - NightHammer (talk) 00:02, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
- It seems like massacre could be noted for a great deal of the UNSC's efforts against the Covenant during the war. Additionally, massacre could have the potential to be inferred as a more emotionally investing event than it actually is. The neutral battle would be the most preferable option in my opinion. Helianthus — All right. Shoot!
- Yeah, you're right about massacre. Perhaps "battle" would be a better title. - NightHammer (talk) 21:10, 26 August 2014 (EDT)
Rename again (again)[edit]
I suggest we rename it "Battle of Circinius IV". Thanks to the Halo 5: Guardians Limited Edition, we've discovered that there were more events than that of FUD. There are still some issues with the chronology, but I don't think we can say that the planet really "fell" in less than a day. "Battle" is more neutral. Imrane-117 (talk) 03:54, 27 March 2016 (EDT)
- Agreed.Sith Venator (Dank Memes) 06:27, 27 March 2016 (EDT)
- Sounds good. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 09:58, 27 March 2016 (EDT)
John and Buck's operations[edit]
shouldn'y Operations: PHALANX and ABLE SENTRY both be a part of this battle/fall? Why do we have them listed as taking place after 2531? -Japeth555