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| '''This is the vote for if Halo Nation should merge into us. Please read all the details below including the "Disclaimer" and "Vote Info" to avoid any issues.'''
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| ==Disclaimer==
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| Halopedia would like to remind people to not harass or attack people regardless of their choices. (This includes the staff of Fandom) And to specify what harassment and attacking means, we mean no ad hominem attacks, spamming or otherwise disrespectful behaviour. We also would like to remind people not to vandalize [https://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_Nation Halo Nation]. Anyone caught doing the stuff mentioned here may risk a ban according to the [https://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Blocking_Policy Blocking Policy]. Halopedia does not support defacing other sites and also plans to keep in good relations with Halo Nation regardless of the choices made here, and on their end.
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| ==Vote info==
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| 1. This vote will be active for 2 week as of this posting.
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| 2. As per all Halopedia votes, a version of the [https://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Voting_Policy Voting policy] is in place. Due to the importance of this vote however we will be clear on a few minimums of '''25 article edits''' and being a member on Halopedia for at '''least 3 weeks'''. You can however say your opinions regardless of edit count and member age in the "Comments and Suggestions" area.
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| 3. Halopedia and Halo Nation admins and patrollers will be available during the entire voting period to answer questions that may be had by everyone, those will be handled in the "Comments and Suggestions" area.
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| ==Proposal==
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| [https://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_Nation Halo Nation] has [https://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Dab1001/WIKI:_Halo_Nation_May_Be_Leaving_Fandom announced] that they plan to vote on leaving [http://www.wikia.com/fandom Wikia/FANDOM]. To which Halo Nation is hoping to make us an option they would like to potentially merge into. We are here to set a small vote if the Halopedia Community would like that. To that end we have been discussing with their admin team for a few weeks now regarding how a merger into us would happen if it were to happen.
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| ==Why Halo Nation asked us==
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| Wikia/FANDOM has not been the best host for them, adding [https://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:425388?useskin=oasis auto-playing featured videos], and a lot of other stuff the community and admin team there have been vocal against, and the admin team are hoping to leave so they can continue work without having to worry about the host forcing stuff without question, something we can offer as our host [https://www.halopedia.org/User:Porplemontage Porplemontage] hardly ever pushes changes unless we ask.
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| ==The October 2010 split==
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| Now its common knowledge that in October 2010 a [https://www.halopedia.org/Forum:Domain_overhaul_-_And_what_do_you_think?/Outcome split] happened between Halopedia and Halo Nation that was not the nicest split ever, which lead to the two wikis not being on the best terms. Though 7 years most issues and hostilities ended over time though us not chatting much at all. And for the remaining issues we'd like to state we been in talks with Halo Nation since June 2017 and managed to fix up those issues that were still had between the two wikis, and in August 2017 our [https://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:FAQ#What_is_Halopedia.27s_relationship_with_Halo_Nation_like.3F FAQ] was added to suit that these issues were fixed up.
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| Since then the admins of both wikis have been in discussions on how to do several articles, working together on small projects, and even helping each other when a wiki had trouble on it. We even were the founding members of a Discord Group called the "Halo Wiki Alliance" a group for Halo Wiki admins dedicated to improving Halo Wikis. Showing that the wikis have never been this close since we were together in 2010.
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| ==What they can offer us==
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| Halo Nation has a lot to offer us. Here is a list of pros that would come from a merger with them:
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| *Halopedia staff will grow in size with [https://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_Nation:Administrator#List_of_Administrators people] who are already knowledgeable in the Halo universe, franchise and community.
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| **A bigger team will allow us to work on and create complex and far reaching projects.
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| **A bigger team would allow us to pursue bigger community projects. For example Halo 101 where we simplify a subject to make it accessible for all fans.
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| **This will also lead to better patrolling and more content being added.
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| **Any skills the admins of Halo Nation have can be used on the wiki if they choose to use them.
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| *Any assets/articles Halo Nation has that we are missing can be used on Halopedia.
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| **Halo Nation may have content that can be used to make Halopedia look even better if used correctly.
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| *There will be less confusion from new people to the franchise as one wiki will be worked on heavily for the first time since the release of Halo: Reach.
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| ==Cons of a merger==
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| There are a couple cons to a merger, however:
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| *There will still be two wikis, FANDOM will still have a wiki on their service. This means it is possible the abandoned wiki may grow again.
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| **However, we will still remain friendly with them.
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| **This is something we have already dealt with since the first split in 2010, except this time we will have almost the whole admin team at our side instead of a fractured admin team.
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| *The merger will be done largely by hand. This may take a while pending how fast we all work on it.
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| **However, this will be done on a test wiki to ensure the merger has no disruption to Halopedia or the Fandom site.
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| ==What would happen?==
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| If Halo Nation was successful in voting us to merge into the following would happen:
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| *For existing users nothing will change on Halopedia. Users can still edit articles, and add images without a issue at all. A normal day in the office.
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| **An option to help merging the wikis will be given to all users however, but it wont be forced at all.
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| *Halo Nation admins would be made "[https://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Patrollers Patrollers]" for a month in a trial period to get used to the wiki, and as show of good faith from us to give themselves a chance to show they are a good fit for the wiki. At the end of the month the current Halopedia team will evaluate the activity of the Halo Nation admins via [https://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Requests_for_Adminship Request for Adminship] to see if the are suitable to become an admin or not. (This is more just us going though things officially on the wiki based on our policies, their Halo Nation stats will be considered, and as they are considered trusted members on Halo Nation, this information will be considered also)
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| **If an admin was inactive during the trial period, they may need to push though a Request for Adminship themselves if they want to become an admin.
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| **After the trial period, if the admin wished to stay as a Patroller they can.
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| **Though throughout the trial period they would be treated as admins.
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| **The Halo Nation team will make introduction pages about themselves. This is so you all can learn about who they are.
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| *Both Halopedia and Halo Nation admins/patrollers will go through all the assets on Halo Nation and add/merge stuff that is appropriate.
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| **This would be done via a test wiki to prevent inconsistencies and any disruption to Halopedia or the Fandom site.
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| *After a merger policies may be adjusted to account for stuff Halo Nation was doing, pending if they are superior to ours.
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| *There will be discussions between the admin teams in how the social media will be handled.
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| ==Halopedia team votes and opinions==
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| ===CIA391===
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| {{Support}} - I 100% support a merger between Halopedia and Halo Nation. This would help a lot in stopping the community being confused on what wiki to use and ultimately have 1 singular wiki to work on. This would also be a great opportunity to get started/restart several projects that lacked the manpower to do, stuff I am hoping everyone here would love. Plus Halopedia and Halo Nation has been chatting for over a year, the relationship between both wikis is at a all time high and can only get better if we were to merge.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 10:10, 21 October 2018 (EDT)
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| ===Dragonclaws===
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| {{Support}} - Aside from things becoming degraded through the march of time, nothing has changed since the last time we approached this matter. I am skeptical as to our chances of subverting Wikia/FANDOM, but if it can be accomplished, I give my full support. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] ([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]]) 17:29, 8 November 2018 (EST) | |
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| ===NightHammer===
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| {{Support}} - As per the others --[[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 20:49, 4 December 2018 (EST)
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| ===Rusty-112===
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| {{Support}} - It will be good to expand our user base with passionate Halo fans. As long as it's clear who is joining who, I can't object. - [[User:Rusty-112|Rusty-112]] ([[User talk:Rusty-112|talk]]) 22:25, 20 November 2018 (EST)
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| ===Sith Venator===
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| {{Support}}-Per the others.-[[User:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|talk]]) 09:06, 9 November 2018 (EST)
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| ===Tacitus===
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| {{Support}} - This has been a long time coming, and I'm glad our communities have gotten to the point where we're actually able to pull it off.--[[User:Tacitus|Tacitus]] ([[User talk:Tacitus|talk]]) 13:28, 9 November 2018 (EST)
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| ===Arcmind===
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| {{Support}}
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| I've always been a huge fan of Halopedia, although to be completely honest, my first introduction to the world of halo came from HN. Nevertheless, I believe a merging of the two wikis would do us all good. Aside from the lack of ads which tend to slow or even crash my devices thanks to Fandom, having everything on a single website with a lot of credibility with both 343 ad other sources. Not to mention a lot of Halo nation staff are good friends with myself and others on Halopedia's side. Having everyone contributing their vast knowledge and understanding of the halo universe towards the same things would only make our collective efforts even better than splitting that manpower on something already done on one site or the other. Of course, I'm not very experienced on this wiki admittedly with most of my time being devoted to work and Destinypedia when I can spare it, but that's just my two cents. The merge has my support. [[User:Arcmind|Arcmind]] ([[User talk:Arcmind|talk]]) 15:53, 9 November 2018 (EST)
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| ===Subtank===
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| A bit late to the party. My comments are as follows
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| * I'm okay with the Halo Nation's administrators being given patroller rights. However, I am not fond of giving them administrator rights after the trial period. '''The Halo Nation's administrators should only be made administrators once they have gone through Halopedia's proper process and procedure.'''
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| * '''This should at least be publicly announced on Halopedia''', just like when we initiated the migration out from Wikia in 2010. The Halopedia community ought to have a say on this migration. I doubt they'll oppose it. In any event, I hate things being decided in secret. This is not the Halopedia's way of doing things. Things should be decided in a transparent and fair manner.
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| * As I previously indicated when I was in Halo Nation (before I was kicked out by Wikia in 2010 - 2011), Halo Nation ought to be a community-focused wiki while Halopedia remains the canon wiki. '''We would still need to maintain the Wikia version so that we can manage the traffic between the two wikis.''' At the end of the day, Wikia paid for SEO whereas Halopedia relies on good will.
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| Emphasis made. My {{support}} is premised on the above. [[User:Subtank|Subtank]] ([[User talk:Subtank|talk]]) 23:00, 14 December 2018 (EST)
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| ===Spartan331===
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| {{Support}} - Sorry about the delay, I hope I'm not too late. I don't see any major problems that may come from unifying the wikis. A unified wiki would do the fanbase some good too. But as Subtank mentioned, the process needs to be transparent, and done properly (especially in terms of admins and patroller roles). Full support from me. <sub>Oh, and happy new year, everyone</sub>. [[User:Spartan331|Spartan331]] ([[User talk:Spartan331|talk]]) 07:42, 7 January 2019 (EST)
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| ===BaconShelf===
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| {{Support}}
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| As who could (as far as I know) be considered the newest member of staff on either Halopedia, Halo Nation or Destinypedia combined, I'm not sure for what my view is worth in comparison to some of the more experienced members here. However, all I can say for my part is that Halo Nation combining with Halopedia has my full support. While I'm not an active contributor on HN, I do admin the Titanfall Wikia so I can relate first-hand to some of Wikia's... drawbacks as a platform. Collating the two wikis' image banks is a project that particularly excites me, and I've had nothing but positive interactions with the HN staff in my albeit brief interactions with them. If it all goes through, I look forward to the merger project and hopefully a more active Halopedia with both wikis' userbases combined! [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 19:00, 8 November 2018 (EST)
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| ===Spartacus===
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| {{Support}} - As a longstanding member of both communities, this would be extremely beneficial for both sides. Wikia/Fandom have proven for many years that they care nothing for their users and only for their bottom line. A larger admin team is something that has been desperately needed, but due to the split could never come to fruition. I support this measure one hundred and ten percent.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Segoe Script; font-size: 11pt;">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] 15:04, 12 November 2018 (EST)
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