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0:14 - [[Tyson Green]] - The [[multiplayer]] side of Halo has always been a little more faster-loose.
'''0:14 - [[Tyson Green]]: '''The [[multiplayer]] side of Halo has always been a little more faster-loose.


0:20 - [[David Candland]] - In multiplayer, everything and anything can happen.
'''0:20 - [[David Candland]]:''' In multiplayer, everything and anything can happen.


0:24 - Oh my God, motherf*(warthog horn)**ers.
'''0:24 - '''Oh my God, motherf*(warthog horn)**ers.


0:27 - [[Luke Timmins]] - We need to be either as good as [[Halo 2|''Halo 2'']] - and obviously, that is our bar - at least as good, we better as hell be better.
'''0:27 - [[Luke Timmins]]: '''We need to be either as good as [[Halo 2|''Halo 2'']] - and obviously, that is our bar - at least as good, we better as hell be better.


0:37 - [[Chris Carney]] - Enjoy your walk back to the beach.
'''0:37 - [[Chris Carney]]:''' Enjoy your walk back to the beach.


0:40 - [[Steve Cotton]] - While you're working on the project, the bar's sort of a moving target. It can be intimidating, for sure. Typically my morning starts with me weeping at my desk (pause) for about 30 minutes. And then I get to work.
'''0:40 - [[Steve Cotton]]:''' While you're working on the project, the bar's sort of a moving target. It can be intimidating, for sure. Typically my morning starts with me weeping at my desk (pause) for about 30 minutes. And then I get to work.


0:55 - [[Tyson Green]] - We've really gotten hardcore about instituting afternoon playtests...OK, it's [[territories]], 15 second respawn time.
'''0:55 - [[Tyson Green]]:''' We've really gotten hardcore about instituting afternoon playtests...OK, it's [[territories]], 15 second respawn time.


1:03 - [[Lars Bakken]] - ...and it's become fundamental in how we're working on the game.
'''1:03 - [[Lars Bakken]]:''' ...and it's become fundamental in how we're working on the game.


1:10 - [[Mike Buelterman]] - From day 1, people have been in there playing, which really, really refines the gameplay.
'''1:07 - '''Ah, Froman! Aw you're so close!


1:16 - [[Lars Bakken]] - It was horrible there.
'''1:10 - [[Mike Buelterman]]:''' From day 1, people have been in there playing, which really, really refines the gameplay.


1:18 - [[Tyson Green]] - Who broke territories?
'''1:16 - [[Lars Bakken]]:''' It was horrible there.


1:21 - [[Steve Cotton]] - I think ''Halo 2'' multiplayer has been played like 4 billion times. Competing against yourself is stressful.
'''1:18 - [[Tyson Green]]: '''Who broke territories?


1:29 - [[Chris Carney]] - Coming up with these scenarios that people play over and over again, now how can we rethink that and create something that's new and interesting? We started getting more into these a-symmetrical maps, where it's offense versus defense, where that's a choke-point that you want to hold, and I think [[High Ground]] is an example of that.
'''1:21 - [[Steve Cotton]]:''' I think ''Halo 2'' multiplayer has been played like 4 billion times. Competing against yourself is stressful.


1:49 - [[Steve Cotton]] - Some of the specific things that we tried out were having a wall that you have to get past, that sort of defined whether you won or lost the game.
'''1:29 - [[Chris Carney]]: '''Coming up with these scenarios that people play over and over again, now how can we rethink that and create something that's new and interesting? We started getting more into these asymmetrical maps, where it's offense versus defense, where that's a choke-point that you want to hold, and I think [[High Ground]] is an example of that.


1:57 - [[Chris Carney]] - Then we stuck some towers in, and we put AI gunners on all the towers, so as you're running up the hill, you're just getting tagged by all these AI...guys. That's a direction that we went, we were like "Whoa, that's way too hard."
'''1:49 - [[Steve Cotton]]: '''Some of the specific things that we tried out were having a wall that you have to get past, that sort of defined whether you won or lost the game.


2:10 - [[Steve Cotton]] - In this version, the wall's actually perpendicular to the hill, and in the final version of High Ground that wall has been rotated 45 degrees because it had 2 turrets up here as well as two turrets in the other tower, so there was a lot of firepower coming down on the hill. That got all simplified into one turret actually right above the gate, which we thought was not as brutal to the attackers. It's pretty obvious to us when we start working on these maps they have to be fun for the hundredth and the two hundredth and the thousandth time.
'''1:57 - [[Chris Carney]]: '''Then we stuck some towers in, and we put AI gunners on all the towers, so as you're running up the hill, you're just getting tagged by all these AI...guys. That's a direction that we went, we were like "Whoa, that's way too hard."


2:45 - [[Chris Carney]] - Watching people run through your map challenges a lot of the assumptions you made about it, like "I think people will use this hill for sniping," and then no-one uses it. Then you get great comments like "This map sucks," erm... "I hate this spot, I hate you..." (laughs)
'''2:10 - [[Steve Cotton]]:''' In this version, the wall's actually perpendicular to the hill, and in the final version of High Ground that wall has been rotated 45 degrees because it had 2 turrets up here as well as two turrets in the other tower, so there was a lot of firepower coming down on the hill. That got all simplified into one turret actually right above the gate, which we thought was not as brutal to the attackers. It's pretty obvious to us when we start working on these maps they have to be fun for the hundredth and the two hundredth and the thousandth time.


03:02 - [[Steve Cotton]] - A lot of the time that you spend on these levels are in the details. Making sure that the run to a weapon is equal for different areas, getting the distances right for flag-captures.
'''2:45 - [[Chris Carney]]:''' Watching people run through your map challenges a lot of the assumptions you made about it, like "I think people will use this hill for sniping," and then no-one uses it. Then you get great comments like "This map sucks," erm... "I hate this spot, I hate you..." (laughs)


03:13 - [[Justin Hayward]] - Because we make such an effort to place...titled objects in a level, like "The Waterfall", "The Bridge", "The Portapotty", people can say "The flag is down by the Portapotty." That immediately helps with the social aspect.
'''03:02 - [[Steve Cotton]]:''' A lot of the time that you spend on these levels are in the details. Making sure that the run to a weapon is equal for different areas, getting the distances right for flag-captures.


03:30 - Shouldn't tell them about the Portapotty...
'''03:13 - [[Justin Hayward]]:''' Because we make such an effort to place...titled objects in a level, like "The Waterfall", "The Bridge", "The Portapotty", people can say "The flag is down by the Portapotty." That immediately helps with the social aspect.


03:33 - [[Chris Carney]] - One of the things that we talked about in pre-production was player movement, and that's where the [[man-cannon]] came from - different ways to move the players around the map.
'''03:30 -''' Shouldn't tell them about the Portapotty...


03:45 - [[David Candland]] - In [[Halo 1|''Halo 1'']] and [[Halo 2|''Halo 2'']] we had these [[teleporters]]. Although it was a great way to get around quickly, it didn't provide as much inherent danger as the man-cannon does. There's almost nothing more rewarding than sniping a guy out of the air as he's man-cannoning across the map.
'''03:33 - [[Chris Carney]]:''' One of the things that we talked about in pre-production was player movement, and that's where the [[man-cannon]] came from - different ways to move the players around the map.


04:06 - [[Tyson Green]] - Whatever weapon that you start off every round with is going to really affect the decisions you make.
'''03:45 - [[David Candland]]:'''  In [[Halo 1|''Halo 1'']] and [[Halo 2|''Halo 2'']] we had these [[teleporters]]. Although it was a great way to get around quickly, it didn't provide as much inherent danger as the man-cannon does. There's almost nothing more rewarding than sniping a guy out of the air as he's man-cannoning across the map.


04:13 - [[Adrian Perez]] - There was this thing we didn't really identify in ''Halo 2'', that if you spawn everybody with a dual-wieldable weapon like the [[SMG]], it changed the game. People stopped [[melee]], and people stopped throwing [[grenades]], because when you're dual-wielding you can't do either of those.
'''04:06 - [[Tyson Green]]:''' Whatever weapon that you start off every round with is going to really affect the decisions you make.


04:31 - [[Steve Scott]] - One of our weapon modelers, Tom Doyle, said "Hey, this is a great chance to bring back the [[Assault Rifle]] from ''Halo 1''.
'''04:13 - [[Adrian Perez]]:''' There was this thing we didn't really identify in ''Halo 2'', that if you spawn everybody with a dual-wieldable weapon like the [[SMG]], it changed the game. People stopped [[melee]], and people stopped throwing [[grenades]], because when you're dual-wielding you can't do either of those.


04:41 - [[Tom Doyle]] - The Assault Rifle's design language really works well with the [[Master Chief]]. It has such a unique silhouette and look to it that we really didn't want to change what weapon was already Halo canon. But in terms of design and gameplay, it's been adjusted pretty considerably.
'''04:31 - [[Steve Scott]]:''' One of our weapon modelers, Tom Doyle, said "Hey, this is a great chance to bring back the [[Assault Rifle]] from ''Halo 1''.


05:00 - [[Tyson Green]] - The weapon has kind of a shallow clip, so it came down to "How best do I use my melee attack," or "How best do I use my grenades in order to tip that fight a little bit over in my favour."
'''04:41 - [[Tom Doyle]]: '''The Assault Rifle's design language really works well with the [[Master Chief]]. It has such a unique silhouette and look to it that we really didn't want to change what weapon was already Halo canon. But in terms of design and gameplay, it's been adjusted pretty considerably.


05:11 - [[Lars Bakken]] - The Assault Rifle works really well with the Golden Three things of Halo, which are weapons, grenades and melee.
'''05:00 - [[Tyson Green]]:''' The weapon has kind of a shallow clip, so it came down to "How best do I use my melee attack," or "How best do I use my grenades in order to tip that fight a little bit over in my favour."


05:19 - [[Curtis Creamer]] - The different kinds of weapons that you get to use now, the way that they're balanced against each other, the way the weapons are placed on a map, it really brings a certain something to the map that just makes it play right.
'''05:11 - [[Lars Bakken]]:''' The Assault Rifle works really well with the Golden Three things of Halo, which are weapons, grenades and melee.


05:30 - [[Tyson Green]] - You have a situation which is very common: two guys get into a fight, is there a way to mix that up?
'''05:19 - [[Curtis Creamer]]:''' The different kinds of weapons that you get to use now, the way that they're balanced against each other, the way the weapons are placed on a map, it really brings a certain something to the map that just makes it play right.


05:35 - [[Lars Bakken]] - Say you start getting hit by a [[Battle Rifle]] from behind. But say you have a [[Bubble Shield]], you drop it, all of a sudden you're completely shielded from this guy who was firing on you. Or, you have a [[Trip Mine]], and you realize a [[warthog]] is barreling towards you...you deploy the Trip Mine at the last second, and yes, you die, but you take out those damn bastards that just ran you over.
'''05:30 - [[Tyson Green]]:''' You have a situation which is very common: two guys get into a fight, is there a way to mix that up?


06:02 - [[David Candland]] - When you are done, as a group, playing together, the first thing you want to do is talk about it.
'''05:35 - [[Lars Bakken]]:''' Say you start getting hit by a [[Battle Rifle]] from behind. But say you have a [[Bubble Shield]], you drop it, all of a sudden you're completely shielded from this guy who was firing on you. Or, you have a [[Trip Mine]], and you realize a [[warthog]] is barreling towards you...you deploy the Trip Mine at the last second, and yes, you die, but you take out those damn bastards that just ran you over.


06:09 - [[Luke Timmins]] - Every game you play, you're gonna be having a saved film, that you can stop time, shift camera angles, re-watch it.
'''06:02 - [[David Candland]]: '''When you are done, as a group, playing together, the first thing you want to do is talk about it.


06:23 - [[Curtis Creamer]] - I think being able to share it with your friends makes the smack-talk even more powerful, because it's not just: "Oh, I just shot you in the head from across the map!" It's: "I just shot you in the head and let's watch it in slow-mo."
'''06:09 - [[Luke Timmins]]:''' Every game you play, you're gonna be having a saved film, that you can stop time, shift camera angles, re-watch that.


06:37 - [[Jaime Griesemer]] - It's really gonna help people improve their play if they can see it from the enemy's perspective. You'll be able to watch where they go, what weapons they pick up, in what order.
'''06:23 - [[Curtis Creamer]]:''' I think being able to share it with your friends makes the smack-talk even more powerful, because it's not just: "Oh, I just shot you in the head from across the map!" It's: "I just shot you in the head and let's watch it in slow-mo."


06:45 - [[Colm Nelson]] - We've done a lot of paper-reels, that there's a significant part of that that's not finished. the challenge ahead of us now is to make sure that we get everything that we can in the game.
'''06:37 - [[Jaime Griesemer]]:''' It's really gonna help people improve their play if they can see it from the enemy's perspective. You'll be able to watch where they go, what weapons they pick up, in what order.


06:55 - [[Steve Cotton]] - We're gonna be what we're gonna be, and we think it's really good, but everybody's expecting it to be really good, so we gotta beat those expectations, somehow. That's what sucks. That's what makes me cry at my desk.
'''06:45 - [[Colm Nelson]]: '''We've done a lot of paper-reels, specs, that there's a significant part of that that's not finished. the challenge ahead of us now is to make sure that we get everything that we can in the game.
 
'''06:55 - [[Steve Cotton]]:''' We're gonna be what we're gonna be, and we think it's really good, but everybody's expecting it to be really good, so we gotta beat those expectations, somehow. That's what sucks. That's what makes me cry at my desk.


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