Editing Talk:Ripa 'Moramee

== The Covenant is at its Most Evil ==

Graeme Devine and all Halo Wars franchising have claimed that the game features the Covenant at their most "evil" point. The new Arbiter seems to exemplify this. Zealot's comment: "But what if the Infection defiles the Relic?" Arbiter's response: "I care not for your little life! Open the Relic." He would rather risk his soldiers' lives (to the Flood!) than displease the Hierarchs (they might have him killed.) He also looks and sounds like quite a bloodthirsty alien savage (with emphesyma.) --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 21:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I think they are trying to get across the idea that the Arbiter of Halo Wars is much more brutal the the Halo 2-Halo 3 Arbiter, and that his fighting style fits more in line with the normal thought of an Elite, looking only for honor and glory. [[User:D1134|D1134]] 02:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

:Nah, he's more "intense" than most other Elites when it comes to that. Most of them show at least some regard for their fellow Elites' lives. He appears to show none whatsoever. <span style="color:#666666">'''Smoke''' <sup>[[User:Smoke.|My page]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:Smoke.|My talk]]</sub></span> 05:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== "The Infection" ==
So, Harvest was home to a Flood containment facility. Hmm. I'm actually not offended; we've known that Harvest features large, hidden Forerunner structures, and Ensemble obviously wants to incorporate all four main factions. Note that the "Relic" and the surrounding area greatly resemble their counterparts in the announcement trailer. As a side note, Five Long Years and Field Trip to Harvest seem to indicate that, after Harvest was retaken, even more vicious fighting began. Apparently, the Flood was released after Harvest was retaken. --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 21:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

:Just wondering, Fall of Reach along with First Strike never mentioned a Flood Outbreak in Harvest. So, how would Ensemble justify this?[[User Talk:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>Little</tt></font>]][[halofanon:Category:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>_</tt></font>]][[User:Subtank|<font color="#0090FF"><tt>Missy</tt></font>]] - File:Cortana Gif.gif|24px]] 20:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

:They justified quite a few previously uncanon idea. The number of Spartans concentrated on Harvest for one, and how the UNSC supposedly had no contact with Elites or Brutes until 2552 on Reach. [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">Rec</span>]]UoH/Command Staff|<span style="color: #082567; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">lai</span>]]  [[User talk:Simon rjh|<span style="color: #FF0000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">r</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<span style="color: #008000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">j</span>]]<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=simon%20rjh <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">h</span>]</span> 21:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

**** After playing the game, you will discover that you travel other planets, and the flood are discovered on an unknown shield world, not Harvest. (Correct me if I'm wrong). [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC) ****

::We know now that the UNSC will encounter the Flood. But nobody knows whether the forces that do so will live to tell of it. If they do, will they be believed by their superior officers? A xenocidal alien parasite hiding in ancient ruins wouldn't be the most believable idea. And if they ARE believed, who's to say its not just a top military secret? If the general population found out about the Flood, as well as the Covenant, I can imagine a great deal of "the end days are coming!" going on. It makes sense ONI would bury the information in beurocratic tape just to save trouble - it's [[Menachite Mountain|not the first time]] it's happened. -- '''CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 22:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Dead on, 'Morhek! The ONI kept up the belief that humanity was on even footing with the Covenant even up to the 1st Battle of Earth. The artifact at CASTLE Base was a well-kept secret (not to mention the fact that the S-IIs never saw BR55s until they were holed up there.) So, if Ensemble finds a way to make the loss of knowledge about the Flood's existence believable - which will probably involve Joe Staten's supervision - I'm in. One problem, though: I've heard some speculation that the Zealot accompanying the new Arbiter was referring to the human presence rather than everyone's favorite parasite. I doubt this, but if it's true - what a cruel, sick tease, Ensemble! --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 22:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

By the way, at least two of the three Spartans at Harvest should technically survive, as by the time of the Battle of Reach, only three S-IIs were truly KIA. Sam bit it at Chi Ceti IV, I believe Dr. Halsey saw Randall die, and one more may or may not have yet been mentioned. This raises one question: how was their knowledge of the Flood treated? Let's not get to conjectural, and please, take it to the Flood, SPARTAN-II, or Halo Wars pages, as we're only  ~70 percent sure the Flood will be in the game (though I hope for the best.) Furthermore, could the as-yet-not-officially-named-outside-of-the-announcement-trailer Spartan Group Omega be Gray Team in its earlier years? Hmm. --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 23:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

The flood are in the game, but not playable. [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

This could be one of the books technical lies,like making Elites seem to appear at the Battle of Reach for the first time,bunch of crap as we see ELITES in Halo Wars.So ya technically the Spartans may turn out to be the only survivors with maybe nothing more than some footage to give the UNSC of the Flood.So ya anything is possible.And for the height thing this arby is either really tall or that zeolot is really a grunt.[[User:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 02:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== Height ==
This particular Arbiter appears to tower over the Zealot under his command. Perhaps his height should be changed from that which is listed. Perhaps >8'6"would be more appropriate. Elites taller than the average are not unknown, Xytan 'Jar Wattinree is known for being a giant of his kind. Then again, upon inspection of the position of the joints of his legs it may just be that he is standing on higher ground. [[User:A Monument to All Your Sins|A Monument to All Your Sins]] 21:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

In the gallery of Halo Wars:limited edition, we can see the real height of this Arbiter in the Character information card. His height is 8'1"... I think this is a mistake -[[User:Jadeitor|Jadeitor]] 10:53, 8 November 2008.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/3/3f/Vlcsnap-126257.png
No way, he towers over these Honor Guards.  And Regret in his throne.  In Halo 2 when the Arbiter stood next too Truth in his throne he was a bit shorter.  I'd put him @ 9-10 ft, maybe 11.

If you look at the picture, it looks like the honor guards are back a little farther, and Regret could just be lower in his throne, but he is definately taller than 8'1"---- Anonymous

I have the leader cards from the limited edition.  Reget's card says he is 7' in his throne and the Arbiter is 8' 1".  For additional reference Anders (whom you get a good comparsion shot of with the Arbiter in one cutscene), is 5'10".  That said, I have no idea why his height was changed to 8'9" when there is a clear reference that stated otherwise. - Sl'askia.

Just to add on to what was said above.  The 8’ 1” height figure is said not just on the leader cards, but also in the official guide book (I own both).  So, I seriously doubt it is a typo.  Also, I recently learned that apparently the official average height for a Sangheili is now 7.2 feet (about 7’ 2 1/2”):  this is apparently taken from the Beastrium received in the Halo 3 collectors edition (which I don’t own unfortunately, so can someone else verify please?).<br>
Now, here’s my thoughts on the height issue (provided the 7.2 figure is true and the individual wasn’t pulling our legs).  I’ve noticed that Sangheili seem to hunch down a lot, either due to the weight of their armor, as a standard battle pose, or perhaps a bit of both.  The 7.2 figure could very well be the average height of a Sangheili hunched down and the 8’6” figure the average height of an Sangheili standing fully erect (legs only slightly bent, back straight, head raised).<br>
What this could mean is that Ripa’s height on the card and in the guide book is his ‘battle height’. So the 8’1” figure would be both correct…and incorrect.<br>
Pure speculation on my part, but it mops up the inconsistency nicely IMO. [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 05:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:In my opinion, the 7'2" height for an average elite is when they are hunched. However, looking back in [[Halo: Combat Evolved]], you can see that they are actually taller than what we see in Halo 2 and Halo 3. The reason for this is gameplay balance. This is where Halo Wars makes an error when they modelled after Halo 3, not Halo:CE, thus creating inconsistency in the average Sangheili height.-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 05:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

::Hmm...It could be that they made them hunched over in Halo 2/3 for the multiplayer balance you mentioned, while still keeping their actual 'height' (If that made any sense).  Either way, Ripa's height should be marked on the page as 8'1" as per the sources we have, since the 9'3" height it is marked at now is purely speculation.  [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 05:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:::I was under the impression that the average height for an Elite is around 7'6". However, it's inconsistent at best. But you can't claim him to be 9'3" with no source, when all sources say he's 8'1". – Someone

::::Yet everytime someone does change it to 8'1", someone goes in and changes it back...*growls*   [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 00:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Please don't mess around Halo Wars is of a Higher Canon Source than the guides which have been proven wrong in the past, and surely not some cards.  The Arbiter in Halo Wars is a massive Elite, no matter how you look at it, there are several images of him dwarfing the Honor Guards.  Play the damn game, and edit the page, look at him in comparison to other Elites, humans, Regret. --[[User talk:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|Councilor &#39;Rumilee]] 16:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
:First off, Halo Wars is not 'higher canon' then anything else:  canon is canon (and yes I have played the game).  Yes the guide could have made a mistake, however the cards came ''with the game'' so must be considered canon along with it.  Also, if you have read what I wrote above, you would know that the average height of the Sangheili was supposedly changed to be 7.2 in the Halo 3 Bestiarum (which I don't own as it comes with the Legendary or Collectors edition of Halo 3).  This means the other Sangheili in the game could be at this new average height while Ripa is 8'1", which would still have him fit the 'massive Elite' descriptor Forge gave him. [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 16:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't mess around.  The Master Chief is 7' if you play any Halo Game an Elite is alot taller than this, particularly the Arbiter.  The Bestiarium doesn't say 7'2 I own the Legendary edition.  Its 8'6 that's the accepted height confirmed by multiple sources of canon.  And yes Halo Wars is of Higher Canon than a goddamned guide.  Game Guides have been contradictory to the games several times, examples: War Chieftains wielding gravity hammers, and Minor Honor Guards.  --[[User talk:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|Councilor &#39;Rumilee]] 00:22, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:Bestiarium of Halo ''2'' or 3? From what I understand they say different things in regards to their height.  Do you own the Collector Edition of Halo Wars and have the leadership cards? ''They'' say Ripa is 8'1"!  Those same cards always say Regret is 7' in his throne, which explains why Ripa towers over him. Unless you are claiming the cards, which came directly from the makers of the game itself, are crap.

I have with me at this exact moment the Bestiarum that came with the Halo 3 collector's edition, and it says exactly "2.2 meters", which turns out to be 7.22 feet, or 7 feet and 2.64 inches. I consider this more canon than a prima written guide for a game not made by bungie. The average height is not 8'1" or whatever it was said to be. That said, Ripa is clearly much taller than any other elite, seen best when he tells the zealot of his disregard for the zealot's life. [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:11, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

#Krak: The Leader card (not the Prima guide) for the Arbiter that comes in the [[Halo Wars|game]] states that [[Ripa 'Moramee]] is 8'1. If 7.22 is, as you say, the current canonical height for most Elites, that supports the cards statement that he is 8'1 (seeing as he towers at least a foot over them). This is also confirmed by the [[Prophet of Regret]]'s card, which states that he is just over 7 feet tall (while enthroned) and is shown in cutscenes to stand roughly at the same height as his guards and at least a foot below the [[Ripa 'Moramee|Arbiter]]. I think that pretty much resolves the issue.  [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 12:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
How are they the same height as the Master Chief, have you played the Halo trilogy, Elites tower over Spartans by a couple of feet, watch a replay on the first level, or loot at the Arbiter compared to Johnson and Miranda in Halo 2.  If this is true than it should be reflected in all Elite articles, so get around to editing this--Councilor 'Rumilee

There is in fact 'higher cannon' in terms of what trumps what.  For instance, book will generally trump movie in actual cannon, game trumps manual, creator trumps everything.  The manual is the least believable, as are the cards and books, as the game was made and cannon established before they were made and are often full of typos and errors.--[[User talk:Kre &#39;Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 20:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:You're right, there are typically tiered levels of Canon, such as in the Star Wars universe.  However, that tier is set and pre-determined, not assumed.  You cannot say definitively that one is higher than another since no one clearly stated what trumps what.  Everything is on the same level of canon.  In Halo's case, recency trumps everything else unless otherwise stated. That is Bungie's official stance on it.  There is no tiered canon or anything (this can be evidenced by the fact that the books and the games often come in direct odds with each other on many different things.  According to tiered canon, the game should supercede the book, but that isn't always the case.) [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 00:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Even when it isn't actually stated, it can infact be guessed at using this logical tiering system; a book allows full development in that you sit and read it for hours if not days and has no budget, a video game is similar except that it needs to be 'fun to play' rather than read, and a movie is ussually budgeted and needs to entertain you for two hours tops.  But this is called into question when something such as new graphics, different developers, or your prestated reasons, I just wanted to clarify and add to the discussion.--[[User talk:Kre &#39;Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 06:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

==Names and Info==

I lack the rights to edit the article, so all I can do is present information here.

Firstly, isn't the term "unnamed Arbiter" somewhat redundant, since it's pretty much a given that any Arbiter is going to be unnamed while in service. If it's for the fact that no former title is known, unlike the current Arbiter being the Supreme Commander of the Fleet of Particular Justice I can understand, but Arbiter (Halo Wars) would seem to be a more appropriate title.

Secondly, there's some more info with the cards, as seen [http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/e/e1/Halo_Wars_-_Collectors_Edition_package.jpg here] (or rather, more preferentially, the original source as per external referencing). We know that he's 8'1", is 7 (I assume that this refers to the ammount of time spent as the Arbiter rather than his actual age) and that "the UNSC only has shadowy figures of the Arbiter".

Apply as necessary.--[[User:Hawki|Hawki]] 05:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to make a wild guess and say that his name has an appostruphe two e's and somewhat hard to pronounes on the first few tries Sith'ari 20050515 21:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

In the Halo Wars info pane it says not many people know his given name is lesly, so it would be appropriate that his name is Lesly'ee.

[[User talk:XxXEcho419|XxXEcho419]] 21:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

== Move to "Arbiter (Halo Wars)" ==

Since there are plenty of Unnamed Arbitors, and since this one is from Halo Wars it would make more sense to put it like I put above, thus I'll be moving it to such.

{{support}} - I support renaming this article to '''Arbiter (Halo Wars)'''. —[[User Talk:Kougermasters|<span style="color: #3333FF; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">Ko</span>]][[Special:Editcount/Kougermasters|<span style="color: #3366FF; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">ug</span>]][[User:Kougermasters|<span style="color: #3399FF; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">er</span>]][[User:Kougermasters/Other Stuff|<span style="color: #66CCFF; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">mas</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kougermasters|<span style="color: #99CCFF; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">te</span>]][[User:Kougermasters|<span style="color: #9999FF; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">rs</span>]] 08:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Support}}-Plenty of arbiters that are unamed.[[User talk:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 18:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Oppose}}- I think it should be renamed Shirley or Shirley'ee. By the way you spelt arbiter wrong. [[User talk:XxXEcho419|XxXEcho419]] 21:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Support}}- Yes. There are dozens of other Arbiters. Two others we know of are the ones from the Taming of the Hunters and the Grunt Rebellion. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 21:09, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shirley? ==

There seems to be an edit war over this Arbiters name, some say it is Shirley some say it is unknown. Now where exactly does it say his name is Shirley?[[User talk:Spartan 112|112]] 00:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I think I started it and its in the Halo Wars info scroll thing it said "Not many people know that The Arbiter's given name is Shirly".

--[[User talk:XxXEcho419|XxXEcho419]] 02:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually I started it,I noticed it when I was at the Halo Wars demo Main menu where it gives you tips.[[User talk:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 02:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Come '''ON''' guys! It's an Easter Egg. An Easter Egg in the ''demo'' as a matter of fact. The demo also (more or less) says, "The Brute Commander loves thorn beast, but it better be extra rare!" Ensemble wouldn't do this to us; Bungie wouldn't allow them to, anyway. After my initial shock passed, I went to Bungie.org where everyone agreed that it is, indeed, an Easter Egg; the forumers also complained about the Spartans' shields and AIs, which, IMO, are multiplayer/skirmish-exclusive. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 03:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Post Shirley related news (Support or opposition) here

[[User talk:XxXEcho419|C00l Beans Rox!]] 04:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I am pretty sure the full game also says those things, although I only remember seeing the thornbeast quote in it. [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

== Thrall? ==

Source for the name. Dark Overlord 00:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree I'd like to know the source of the name "Thrall" as well, seeing as the source given was Halo Wars Genesis and that makes NO mention of his name whatsoever. By the way maybe someone took the name from  Warchief Thrall from World of Warcraft. But if thats the case then its not the actual name. [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 00:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Wait there is no mention of the name in Genesis at all? Is it on the back of his Leader Card? [[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Olive">Recruit 387</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Black">UNSC COMM</span></b>]]</sup> 03:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Well seeing as how I don't HAVE the cards I can't say for sure but it sure as hell isn't on the front, check this link out and look at it, under "NAME" it clearly states "ARBITER" no Thrall is on there. http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Halo-Wars-Collector-039-s-Edition-Detailed-2.jpg [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 04:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

My apologies, but if you dont have the cards, how did you get Genesis? [[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Olive">Recruit 387</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Black">UNSC COMM</span></b>]]</sup> 04:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I never said I had Genesis, I said that the source for the name (The little number 2 to the upper right of Thrall) was the page for Halo Genesis and on there it makes NO mention of his name being Thrall, therefore its not a valid source. I have also googled (not reliable I know but still) Halo Genesis/Halo Wars Arbiter name and came up with nothing [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 04:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh ok, I assumed because you said that it didnt make a mention of his name that you knew that for a fact. Which you dont. Considering the game officially comes out tomorrow first, i wouldnt jump to say anything isnt true just yet. There is no harm in waiting. [[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Olive">Recruit 387</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Black">UNSC COMM</span></b>]]</sup> 04:16, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Using your same logic do they know its Thrall for a fact? No. Were they jumping to conclusions when they moved it here? Yes. So why not just wait for the damn game to come out before they move a page which has no conclusive info about it. [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 04:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I never said they made the right decision. I am only saying that I will not be the one to jump on it and change it or make an effort to. Feel free tho I wont stop you. [[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Olive">Recruit 387</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Black">UNSC COMM</span></b>]]</sup> 04:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Haha I never said I was going to make them change it or change it myself or anything of the sort either did I? I'm only asking questions so that the whole matter can be cleared up and to find the reasoning behind it, simple as that. [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 04:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Well I am in favor of cleaning up this mess. It seems however that Tony does not have an issue with the name as he edited the page after it was moved. [[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Olive">Recruit 387</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: Black">UNSC COMM</span></b>]]</sup> 04:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

If anything I just don't think he was really reading through it all, just saw a move request and did it. But whatever. Matter settled for now heh. [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 04:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

:{{Quote|His story began many cycles past. He was a ''Warlord Thrall'' who had the honor of putting down the "Sixteenth Unggoy Disobedience|Halo Wars Genesis}}

:Halo Wars: Genesis only refers to him being ''a'' Warlord Thrall. Thrall is usually a description used for an underling, signifying they're a servant of a higher lord. Like a Vassal. I don't think its his name. Its his former title.

:I have the game, and it never mentions his name. Why would it? He's been stripped of it. His only title is Arbiter. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 22:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing this up :) Is it just that one passage that says the word Thrall in the book? [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 22:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I would have considered the following for his name. Gargarensis, Kamous, Kemsyt, Arkantos, Ossus, and number of other name mention through ensables other fine works before [[Halo Wars]]. [[User talk:Drsdino|Drsdino]] 23:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Meh I would have been content with just calling him Halo Wars Arbiter, or just plain Arbiter since Thel'Vadamee is the Halo 2/3 Arbiter. [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 23:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Considering that Thel 'Vadamee has magically become the Arbiter as per some editing meme, I don't expect anyone to listen, but the strategy guide explicitly gives his name as Ripa 'Moramee. Edit if you so desire. I can't stomach another Arbiter name debate.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 03:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

:If is says that's his name, then by all means, move the page to it. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur