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==Plausibility== | |||
Am I the only one who finds this whole "Forerunners wiped out the Precursors" thing very implausible? First, I'm baffled as to why everyone assumes that the single line of "I am the last of those your kind rose up against and ruthlessly destroyed" equates to "The Forerunners wiped out the Precursors in a massive war". What people seem to be forgetting is that Precursors were technologically advanced to the point of near-godhood, being worshiped by the Forerunners as the prime example of life. How could the Forerunners, an tiny, insignificant race in comparison, conceivably wage war against such a species, let alone win and wipe them from the universe? I would take the Prisoner's words with a pinch of salt; it might claim that it is the last Precursor, that doesn't mean it is. If the implications that the Prisoner is in some way related to Gravemind are true, even more so. Just my two cents on the whole affair. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="green">('''Talk''')</font>]] 17:48, 6 March 2011 (EST) | Am I the only one who finds this whole "Forerunners wiped out the Precursors" thing very implausible? First, I'm baffled as to why everyone assumes that the single line of "I am the last of those your kind rose up against and ruthlessly destroyed" equates to "The Forerunners wiped out the Precursors in a massive war". What people seem to be forgetting is that Precursors were technologically advanced to the point of near-godhood, being worshiped by the Forerunners as the prime example of life. How could the Forerunners, an tiny, insignificant race in comparison, conceivably wage war against such a species, let alone win and wipe them from the universe? I would take the Prisoner's words with a pinch of salt; it might claim that it is the last Precursor, that doesn't mean it is. If the implications that the Prisoner is in some way related to Gravemind are true, even more so. Just my two cents on the whole affair. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="green">('''Talk''')</font>]] 17:48, 6 March 2011 (EST) | ||
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::We see this happen in the Forerunner-Flood War - it isn't the Flood's abilities that overwhelm the Forerunners, though they were certainly formidible. It was the fact that the Forerunners were overconfident, and content at first to study their enemy, comfortable in the knowledge that a counter-weapon would be found. It was not, and they would pay for their arrogance with their lives, and the lives of trillions of sentients. We see it again in the Human-Covenant War. The arrogance of the Prophets in their puritanical interpretation of the Great Journey, drove the Covenant to civil war just as they were on the verge of absolute victory. | ::We see this happen in the Forerunner-Flood War - it isn't the Flood's abilities that overwhelm the Forerunners, though they were certainly formidible. It was the fact that the Forerunners were overconfident, and content at first to study their enemy, comfortable in the knowledge that a counter-weapon would be found. It was not, and they would pay for their arrogance with their lives, and the lives of trillions of sentients. We see it again in the Human-Covenant War. The arrogance of the Prophets in their puritanical interpretation of the Great Journey, drove the Covenant to civil war just as they were on the verge of absolute victory. | ||
::The Precursors were truly great. Their ego's were probably proportionally enormous, and as the old adage goes - the bigger they are, the harder they fall. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:55, 6 March 2011 (EST) | ::The Precursors were truly great. Their ego's were probably proportionally enormous, and as the old adage goes - the bigger they are, the harder they fall. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:55, 6 March 2011 (EST) | ||
:Providing a look back, and for anyone who is curious: the final book in the Forerunner trilogy confirms that, yes, the Forerunners rose up and destroyed (nearly) the Precursors; however, the reasoning is very much up in the air. --[[User:SNovah|SNovah]] ([[User talk:SNovah|talk]]) 01:10, 3 October 2013 (EDT) | |||
== Deletion Request == | == Deletion Request == | ||
We literally know NOTHING about this. We don't even know that it was a war. They coulda poisoned all of their food, or stopped their reproduction with a genophage-like thing. We know nothing about this and all of the things in this article can be described on their own pages... Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 11:13, 16 January 2012 (EST)! | We literally know NOTHING about this. We don't even know that it was a war. They coulda poisoned all of their food, or stopped their reproduction with a genophage-like thing. We know nothing about this and all of the things in this article can be described on their own pages... Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 11:13, 16 January 2012 (EST)! | ||
Revision as of 01:10, October 3, 2013
Plausibility
Am I the only one who finds this whole "Forerunners wiped out the Precursors" thing very implausible? First, I'm baffled as to why everyone assumes that the single line of "I am the last of those your kind rose up against and ruthlessly destroyed" equates to "The Forerunners wiped out the Precursors in a massive war". What people seem to be forgetting is that Precursors were technologically advanced to the point of near-godhood, being worshiped by the Forerunners as the prime example of life. How could the Forerunners, an tiny, insignificant race in comparison, conceivably wage war against such a species, let alone win and wipe them from the universe? I would take the Prisoner's words with a pinch of salt; it might claim that it is the last Precursor, that doesn't mean it is. If the implications that the Prisoner is in some way related to Gravemind are true, even more so. Just my two cents on the whole affair. - File:Black Mesa.jpg Halo-343 (Talk) 17:48, 6 March 2011 (EST)
- Given that this isn't the first war in Halo where a technologically inferior race defeated a superior one... Well, it's true that to me too it sounds implausible, but I don't own the book, and from the looks of here it sounds like it was just mentioned once in a throwaway line. Hopefully they'll explain more about how that could happen, because their own technogical divide here looks to be very wide indeed. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 18:12, 6 March 2011 (EST)
- Arrogance is the one variable that people do not account for. Especially their own.
- We see this happen in the Forerunner-Flood War - it isn't the Flood's abilities that overwhelm the Forerunners, though they were certainly formidible. It was the fact that the Forerunners were overconfident, and content at first to study their enemy, comfortable in the knowledge that a counter-weapon would be found. It was not, and they would pay for their arrogance with their lives, and the lives of trillions of sentients. We see it again in the Human-Covenant War. The arrogance of the Prophets in their puritanical interpretation of the Great Journey, drove the Covenant to civil war just as they were on the verge of absolute victory.
- The Precursors were truly great. Their ego's were probably proportionally enormous, and as the old adage goes - the bigger they are, the harder they fall. -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 22:55, 6 March 2011 (EST)
- Providing a look back, and for anyone who is curious: the final book in the Forerunner trilogy confirms that, yes, the Forerunners rose up and destroyed (nearly) the Precursors; however, the reasoning is very much up in the air. --SNovah (talk) 01:10, 3 October 2013 (EDT)
Deletion Request
We literally know NOTHING about this. We don't even know that it was a war. They coulda poisoned all of their food, or stopped their reproduction with a genophage-like thing. We know nothing about this and all of the things in this article can be described on their own pages... Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif Vegerot (talk) 11:13, 16 January 2012 (EST)!
