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I've taken note for a while how inconsistent our image category names are, both with each other and with basic grammar. When I put forth the subject-based image category naming system back in the day, I was basically taking the template from Wookieepedia, where the category names still follow grammar and capitalization rules rather than just being an inflexible "Images of (Subject)". I should've probably addressed this earlier, and created a standards guide for the naming before this spiraled out of control, but better late than never I suppose.
I've taken note for a while how inconsistent our image category names are, both with each other and with basic grammar. When I put forth the subject-based image category naming system back in the day, I was basically taking the template from Wookieepedia, where the category names still follow grammar and capitalization rules rather than just being an inflexible "Images of (Subject)". I should've probably addressed this earlier, and created a standards guide for the naming before this spiraled out of control, but better late than never I suppose.


For example, we've got such gems as [[:Category:Images of Guardian|"Images of Guardian"]] (as if there's only one Guardian), [[:Category:Images of Beam emitter|"Images of Beam emitter"]] (the "beam" there isn't a proper noun and there's more than one of them so it should be "Images of beam emitters"), [[:Category:Images of Assault cannon|"Images of Assault cannon"]] (which should be "Images of assault cannons"), [[:Category:Images of Telescopic sights|"Images of Telescopic sights"]] (I wasn't aware "Telescopic" was something so lofty and important it warranted a capital letter mid-sentence), [[:Category:Images of Cryo chamber|"Images of Cryo chamber"]] (I don't even), or [[:Category:Images of Ur-Didact|"Images of Ur-Didact"]] (the definite article is missing). Additionally, a quick look at the subcategories in any broader category like [[:Category:Images of Covenant weapons|"Images of Covenant weapons"]], for example, shows a wide variety of differing capitalization and pluralization rules.
For example, we've got such gems as [[:Category:Images of Guardian|"Images of Guardian"]] (as if there's only one Guardian), [[:Category:Images of Beam emitter|"Images of Beam emitter"]] (the "beam" there isn't a proper noun and there's more than one of them so it should be "Images of beam emitters"), "Images of Assault cannon" (which should be "Images of assault cannons"), "Images of Telescopic sights" (I wasn't aware "Telescopic" was something so lofty and important it warranted a capital letter mid-sentence), "Images of Cryo chamber" (I don't even), or [[:Category:Images of Ur-Didact|"Images of Ur-Didact"]] (the definite article is missing). Additionally, a quick look at the subcategories in any broader category like [[:Category:Images of Covenant weapons|"Images of Covenant weapons"]], for example, shows a wide variety of differing capitalization and pluralization rules.


Meanwhile, examples of what category names ''should'' look like include [[:Category:Images of the Gravemind|"Images of the Gravemind"]] (includes the definite article) or [[:Category:Images of armor abilities|"Images of armor abilities"]] ("armor" isn't a proper noun in this case so it's not capitalized in running text).
Meanwhile, examples of what category names ''should'' look like include [[:Category:Images of the Gravemind|"Images of the Gravemind"]] (includes the definite article) or [[:Category:Images of armor abilities|"Images of armor abilities"]] ("armor" isn't a proper noun in this case so it's not capitalized in running text).
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::I also agree. But we should use plural for future categories (Images of "rifles" instead of "rifle"). Maybe we can fix the older categories, maybe we can't, but at least future categories will be more logical. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 02:10, 16 February 2016 (EST)
::I also agree. But we should use plural for future categories (Images of "rifles" instead of "rifle"). Maybe we can fix the older categories, maybe we can't, but at least future categories will be more logical. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 02:10, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah I'm pretty guilty of the singular thing.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 02:12, 16 February 2016 (EST)
::::One day I might get around to making a bot or something to make all our lives easier. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 02:13, 16 February 2016 (EST)

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I've taken note for a while how inconsistent our image category names are, both with each other and with basic grammar. When I put forth the subject-based image category naming system back in the day, I was basically taking the template from Wookieepedia, where the category names still follow grammar and capitalization rules rather than just being an inflexible "Images of (Subject)". I should've probably addressed this earlier, and created a standards guide for the naming before this spiraled out of control, but better late than never I suppose.

For example, we've got such gems as "Images of Guardian" (as if there's only one Guardian), "Images of Beam emitter" (the "beam" there isn't a proper noun and there's more than one of them so it should be "Images of beam emitters"), "Images of Assault cannon" (which should be "Images of assault cannons"), "Images of Telescopic sights" (I wasn't aware "Telescopic" was something so lofty and important it warranted a capital letter mid-sentence), "Images of Cryo chamber" (I don't even), or "Images of Ur-Didact" (the definite article is missing). Additionally, a quick look at the subcategories in any broader category like "Images of Covenant weapons", for example, shows a wide variety of differing capitalization and pluralization rules.

Meanwhile, examples of what category names should look like include "Images of the Gravemind" (includes the definite article) or "Images of armor abilities" ("armor" isn't a proper noun in this case so it's not capitalized in running text).

Wookieepedia also renders individual weapon models in plural (e.g. Images of E-11 blaster rifles) because the images are going to cover more than one example of the weapon in most cases. However, since the vast majority of our image categories for specific weapon or equipment models already use singular, I think changing that may turn out to be too herculean of a task. Not to mention it is probably more forgivable as one can assume it's the general concept of the model of weapon or vehicle that's being referred to rather than individual examples.

It's just the more general subjects like Guardians, beam emitters or types of weapon I listed earlier (basically everything that isn't a specific model of weapon, vehicle, or piece of equipment) that I think should be changed to more grammar-friendly forms. Unless people have the patience and time to change all the weapon, vehicle, etc. categories too. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 02:01, 16 February 2016 (EST)

I mentioned something about this when "Category:Images of Guardian" was created. And I agree. I see why it's named as such, but the grammar issues bother me. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 02:05, 16 February 2016 (EST)
I also agree. But we should use plural for future categories (Images of "rifles" instead of "rifle"). Maybe we can fix the older categories, maybe we can't, but at least future categories will be more logical. Imrane-117 (talk) 02:10, 16 February 2016 (EST)
Yeah I'm pretty guilty of the singular thing.Sith Venator (Dank Memes) 02:12, 16 February 2016 (EST)
One day I might get around to making a bot or something to make all our lives easier. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 02:13, 16 February 2016 (EST)