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-) NO, I have almost 3000 edits and as  Esemono onece said to me, Rlentess Does '''NOT''' ues the preview button and that i probly had more edits then him. I Created/edited my fair share of articles to, mostly all the ranks and also made afew templates. I mad tons of userboxes and fought of many many vandels, I stay up very late on haloepdia so i to am on more then all the admits too, and on more then one time stayed up all night with out sleep on halopedia fighting vandels and making userboxes. I was the second halopedian of the month, so if he can be an admit i think i could be to.--''[[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="black">'''M'''</font>]]''[[User:Ryanngreenday/History of Lima Company|<font color="black">'''E'''</font>]]''' '''[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="black">'''The'''</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="Maroon">'''Gre'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon'">'''a'''</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon">'''t'''</font>]] 18:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
+'''1.)''' NO, I have almost 3000 edits and as  Esemono onece said to me, Rlentess Does '''NOT''' ues the preview button and that i probly had more edits then him. I Created/edited my fair share of articles to, mostly all the ranks and also made afew templates. I mad tons of userboxes and fought of many many vandels, I stay up very late on haloepdia so i to am on more then all the admits too, and on more then one time stayed up all night with out sleep on halopedia fighting vandels and making userboxes. I was the second halopedian of the month, so if he can be an admit i think i could be to.--''[[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="black">'''M'''</font>]]''[[User:Ryanngreenday/History of Lima Company|<font color="black">'''E'''</font>]]''' '''[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="black">'''The'''</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="Maroon">'''Gre'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon'">'''a'''</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon">'''t'''</font>]] 18:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 :Oh and we started at almost the same time on halopedia.--''[[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="black">'''M'''</font>]]''[[User:Ryanngreenday/History of Lima Company|<font color="black">'''E'''</font>]]''' '''[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="black">'''The'''</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="Maroon">'''Gre'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon'">'''a'''</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon">'''t'''</font>]] 18:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
-)I have my concerns about RR becoming an admin do to his apparent biases. While he claims not to have anything against Esemono, I still have my doubts based on the kinds of things he posts. When I specifically brought it up not to long ago, he was quick to deny it and not long after posted on Esemono's talk page a long list of people he thought were posting false votes against Esemono's competitor Forerunner in HotM. I have to wonder if he knew about them beforehand but didn't say anything until he had an interest in looking friendly toward Esemono. RR carries a lot of social power on Halopedia, and were he to be put in a position of authority this would greatly increase. Fine if he were wholy rational and good-natured, but I have reason to be afraid that Halopedia may become a place where minority viewpoints (ie. people who don't agree with RR) are suppressed in favor of RR-led majority.
+'''2.)''' I have my concerns about RR becoming an admin do to his apparent biases. While he claims not to have anything against Esemono, I still have my doubts based on the kinds of things he posts. When I specifically brought it up not to long ago, he was quick to deny it and not long after posted on Esemono's talk page a long list of people he thought were posting false votes against Esemono's competitor Forerunner in HotM. I have to wonder if he knew about them beforehand but didn't say anything until he had an interest in looking friendly toward Esemono. RR carries a lot of social power on Halopedia, and were he to be put in a position of authority this would greatly increase. Fine if he were wholy rational and good-natured, but I have reason to be afraid that Halopedia may become a place where minority viewpoints (ie. people who don't agree with RR) are suppressed in favor of RR-led majority.
 :I'm sorry if I've offended you, RR. That is not my wish at all. I just feel that if we are to discuss whether or not RR should be made an admin that I cannot remain silent on my opinions regarding this matter. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 20:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
-)It's true what Ryan has said about RR's edit count he has been told by the admin staff to stop inflating his edit count by refusing to use show preview button, but he has refused.  Also a break down of his count shows that most of his edits are on User pages which means RR edits are mostly from adding FanFiction, now banned, on Halopedia via his FanFiction, RPGs and talking to other users.
+'''3.)''' It's true what Ryan has said about RR's edit count he has been told by the admin staff to stop inflating his edit count by refusing to use show preview button, but he has refused.  Also a break down of his count shows that most of his edits are on User pages which means RR edits are mostly from adding FanFiction, now banned, on Halopedia via his FanFiction, RPGs and talking to other users.
 :If we are to subtract RRs FanFiction edits and his refusal to use the SHOW PREVIEW button I'd say his edits are around 5000.  If we're to give everyone who has 5000 edits then we'll have over a hundred admins.  Then Halopedia will become the classic example of to many cooks in the kitchen.
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 :I'll be the first to say RR is a nice guy, while I understand that most users like him because he is the first person they talk to I also ask them to look to the past.  RR has a history of unstable behavior that I fear he would use to attack other users that disagree with him.  One only has to look at when angry about an issue RR erased his account and in a over dramitic scene told everyone he was never coming back.  We don't admins who will strike in anger or run away in protest.  We need calm rational admins to do things for the good of Halopedia not someone who wants more power.  Do you want an Admin who forced their way into power? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
-)I'm going to have to agree with Ryanngreenday. Edit counts do not mean anything, and there are many easy ways to inflate one's edit count, intentionally or unintentionally. I also disagree with this idea for the following reasons:
+'''4.)''' I'm going to have to agree with Ryanngreenday. Edit counts do not mean anything, and there are many easy ways to inflate one's edit count, intentionally or unintentionally. I also disagree with this idea for the following reasons:
 #Contrary to what you all think, the 3 current admins are on Halopedia a lot, almost every day and frankly, Vandalism is nothing that is out of control. I think things are fine as they are, vandals never get too far without being blocked. We don't need a topheavy organization with too many admins and power games.
 #I have considered suggesting we grant rollback privledges to users with a certain number of main page edits for this reason. Frankly, it is a stupid idea to antagonize vandals, because it gives them attention. Case study: User IPs that are sent a bunch of messages are much more likely to come back the day their ban expires, as opposed to the vandals who get bored because no one gives them any attention.
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 :::RR has asked us before, though, and hinted strongly after that. I meant that Halopedia has joined Wikia, yet it still acts like a seperate community. AgentSeethroo had the power to decide what direction to take Halopedia when he owned it, but as Wikia owns it now we shouldn't be stuck following his example. Sorry, I suppose my ramblings don't make much sense. I'm not sure I understand myself. "Meditate on this, I will." --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
-#Just because someone has a lot of contribs doesn't mean anything, no offense RR, but your contribs are: Forum, Talk page, Fanfic, Reverts, and little bit of main space edits. Sorry, but I can't say For. Besides this wiki has a ton of users already that can block users and what not.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 12:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
+'''5.)''' Just because someone has a lot of contribs doesn't mean anything, no offense RR, but your contribs are: Forum, Talk page, Fanfic, Reverts, and little bit of main space edits. Sorry, but I can't say For. Besides this wiki has a ton of users already that can block users and what not.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 12:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 :::Would just like to point out that while RR does contribute quite a bit to Forum, Talk page, and Fanfic, his main edit count is still more than most people's edit count including Forum, Talk page, and Fanfic. I believe...Esemono or ED (bad memory + laziness) estimated his main edit count to be 3000. Just thought you ought know.
 ::::--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Master Gunnery Sergeant]] [[w:c:halofanon:Hank J Wimbleton IV|<span style="color:#0000CC">Hank J Wimbleton IV</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|COM]]</sup> 20:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
+'''6.)''' Nope. Sorry, RR. I just don't think you are ready for this job yet. The fact that you can't get along with Esemono isn't good, seeing as (if you are appointed) he will be one of your co-admins. One of the people you have to work with VERY well. And, speaking as the person who talked you back from the brink, I think you might need to prove to the community that you can hold your cool in the face of insults and personal vendettas. I mean, you kinda went offa the deep end, ''mi compadre''... Don't take this too personally, man. Maybe in a while you should be ready. For example, you are great at vandal fighting. And you don't need to be an admin to do that... Just go thru the proper channels. It's like being in the military. You can't really just ask for a promotion because you do something good. Again, '''do not''' take this personally. [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: black">HelmetComm</span></b>]]</sup><sup><nowiki>||</nowiki></sup><sup>[[User:Spartan-091/askAI|<b><span style="color: purple">Juliet</span></b>]]</sup> 22:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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 :::::To YOUR two points which were directed to me: Hmm, it seems I was mistaken about you being at old.halopedia but the "leave" i was talking about was the one you made during August 13 - November 14 2006. That is, in fact, a "maor hiatus". You tagged every "ilovebees" article for deletion and placed templates on numerous pages without citing any reasons. Ilovebees was tagged as canon in July 2006. I won't name names, but some users came to Dragonclaws calling it vandalism. The accusation was never answered by you, and most of those edits had to be reverted. There are probably other instances other people are talking about, but that's one that comes to mind to me. -[[User:ED|ED]] 21:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 ::::::Regardless of ILB's canon-ness, which was not known at the time, is the fact that it was highly notable and Microsoft-produced. RR called it fanfiction and said it should be deleted, but whether or not it was canon was not the main issue in defending it. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 21:30, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
-*Nope. Sorry, RR. I just don't think you are ready for this job yet. The fact that you can't get along with Esemono isn't good, seeing as (if you are appointed) he will be one of your co-admins. One of the people you have to work with VERY well. And, speaking as the person who talked you back from the brink, I think you might need to prove to the community that you can hold your cool in the face of insults and personal vendettas. I mean, you kinda went offa the deep end, ''mi compadre''... Don't take this too personally, man. Maybe in a while you should be ready. For example, you are great at vandal fighting. And you don't need to be an admin to do that... Just go thru the proper channels. It's like being in the military. You can't really just ask for a promotion because you do something good. Again, '''do not''' take this personally. [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: black">HelmetComm</span></b>]]</sup><sup><nowiki>||</nowiki></sup><sup>[[User:Spartan-091/askAI|<b><span style="color: purple">Juliet</span></b>]]</sup> 22:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 ==RR FanFiction Edit Count==
 *In regards to RR FanFiction Count it's not that he has contributed a lot of Fan Fiction, well more than the average user, but that his FanFiction and RPGs were very edit intesive.  So in addition to refusing to using the SHOW PREVIEW button RR would often have to update his FanFiction library several times an hour.  In addition to that a lot of his user edits are him talking about his FanFiction.  That was what I meant when I said most of RR edits are FanFiction. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)