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 Dune has an explanation - that energy shields are specifically designed to stop hypersonic weapons, and atomic or energy weapons produce catastrophic feedback, but melee weapons cut through like a blunt knife through frozen butter, which is at least something. I don't know whether Halo would use that explanation, since they seem to work on entirely different principles, but it's an influential series. And, after all, we've seen ODSTs without Spartan-grade augmentations stab shielded Brutes, so perhaps it's not so far-fetched that a punch or a stab might not trigger the shields. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:43, 30 January 2016 (EST)
-:True, but in Dune's case the melee attacks are much slower, to the point of types of sword play designed around fast strikes that suddenly slow to a crawl. By contrast, even without the claimed enhancement of MJOLNIR (likely due to animating this scene with motion-capture) John and Locke are still throwing punches much faster than in ''Dune''. According to [https://www.quora.com/How-fast-does-a-fist-travel-when-punching-someone here], a boxer's average punch speed is 25 mph to 30 mph, the same speed a Warthog can ram a Spartan at. A Spartan's punch speed would likely be ''much'' faster than an unaugmented boxer. I don't think it was ever the intention that ''Halo'' energy shields work like ''Dune'''s, based on scenes where John can't keep his grip on a Covenant ship's surface because its shield is repelling him or when he feels his arm's shields with his other arm and encounters resistance. ''And'' on top of that, there actually are cutscenes in Halo 5 where bodily impact triggers shield flares, {{Plain|[https://youtu.be/afMIqjYOSCY?t=1m5s watch Locke punch a Zealot dead]}}. As stuff like Elites dying from a single Storm Rifle shot in Spartan Ops have shown, we shouldn't always assume the cutscenes are the "true" reality to the gameplay.
+:True, but in Dune's case the melee attacks are much slower, to the point of types of sword play designed around fast strikes that suddenly slow to a crawl. By contrast, even without the claimed enhancement of MJOLNIR (likely due to animating this scene with motion-capture) John and Locke are still throwing punches much faster than in ''Dune''. According to [https://www.quora.com/How-fast-does-a-fist-travel-when-punching-someone here], a boxer's average punch speed is 25 mph to 30 mph, the same speed a Warthog can ram a Spartan at. A Spartan's punch speed would likely be ''much'' faster than an unaugmented boxer. I don't think it was ever the intention that ''Halo'' energy shields work like ''Dune'''s, based on scenes in ''The Fall of Reach'' where John can't keep his grip on a Covenant ship's surface because its shield is repelling him or when he feels his arm's shields with his other arm and encounters resistance. ''And'' on top of that, there actually are cutscenes in Halo 5 where bodily impact triggers shield flares, {{Plain|[https://youtu.be/afMIqjYOSCY?t=1m5s watch Locke punch a Zealot dead]}}. As stuff like Elites dying from a single Storm Rifle shot in Spartan Ops have shown, we shouldn't always assume the cutscenes are the "true" reality to the gameplay.
 :Also, in Buck's case where he stabbed the Chieftain, {{Plain|[https://youtu.be/SGdhtDIVJzY its shields were down]}}. Romeo blasts them off with his sniper rifle and we see the flare of the Chieftain's shields breaking. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:10, 30 January 2016 (EST)