Editing Template talk:Levels

==Split==
Me thinks this template should be split into two, one for campaign levels, and one for multiplayer
--[[User:Paco 027|«pacø»]] 03:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

==don't break the template==
hey, nobody replace the <nowiki>! with a |</nowiki> it messes up the page. And make sure you use preview before you save it. [[User:Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]]UserWiki:Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]][[Special:Editcount/Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]] 10:27, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, if you replace the <code><nowiki>!</nowiki></code> with <code><nowiki>|</nowiki></code>, it removes the Collapsible feature. Also, doing the mentioned will remove the title of the template. So, please don't replace it!- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 10:40, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

::That said, the template seems kind of messy when all of the text is shifted to the right hand side. Unless it does not appear so on pages, would their be a way to keep the text closer without removing the collapsable feature? Being user friendly does take preference, but if this is working anything like the the stub template... *shudders* ~[[wikia:User:Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''Now You Know,'''</font>]] ~ [[halowikia:Special: Contributions/Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''That Flattery Will Get You Nowhere.'''</font>]]~ 10:48, November 4, 2009 (UTC)Blade bane

:::Hmm... I'll try to fix this.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 10:53, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

::::Fix it like you did the stub template, no one will ever notice :3 ~[[wikia:User:Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''Now You Know,'''</font>]] ~ [[halowikia:Special: Contributions/Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''That Flattery Will Get You Nowhere.'''</font>]]~ 10:54, November 4, 2009 (UTC)Blade bane

:::Yeah the messy thing is why I said to use the preview button. I didn't know that it removed the collapsable feature, Just that I couldn't understand it when it was all piled up over it's self. (and yeah it looks the same in articles as it does here) [[User:Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]]UserWiki:Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]][[Special:Editcount/Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]] 10:59, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Good fix Subtank. [[User:Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]]UserWiki:Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]][[Special:Editcount/Galacticdominator|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''~ '''</span>]] 11:35, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

== ODST levels and confirmation. ==

''Thunderstream328: They haven't been confirmed yet. That's why they're not here yet.''

If they haven't been "confirmed" yet, then why do they even have their own articles? Plus, if the names have been shown in the official achievement list, i think that's pretty much a confirmation. I doubt Bungie would change the names or anything anymore, at this point.

Also, what harm would it make if they were shown in the template? It's not like they can't be corrected even if they're somehow changed in the final game. I think the achievement list should be treated as factual information until or unless proven otherwise.

It wouldn't really be a big deal, but  without them in the template, they're too hard to find from Halopedia, as there are basically no other links to them.--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 14:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

:Before Halo 3 was released, the achievements had been discovered, and we were all under the impression that the achievement names were the names of the levels. They weren't. THAT'S why the names of the achievements don't go in the Template. So leave it. --[[User:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:SteelBlue; font-family:Algerian; ">'''T'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:DodgerBlue; font-family:Bodoni MT Condensed; ">'''3'''</span>]] UserWiki:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:Blue; font-family:Castellar; ">'''2'''</span>]] [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <span style="color:MidnightBlue; font-family:Courier New; ">'''8'''</span>]  14:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

==Size==
This thing is getting huge. Perhaps levels for games irrelevant to the page it's used on could be left hidden like in the spoiler template? I've seen stuff like that on other wikis. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 22:06, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
:I think that the levels of the interactive strategy game are unneeded... really, wtf? - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 22:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

:To DC: I'll update this template... soon. To JEA: I don't know who added those... :P- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:15, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
::To make things easier, I will remove them, they occupy a lot of space apparently. - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 08:51, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

==Organization==
I was thinking... this template might be easier to view if the insert-able horizontal line was used to break up the sections of this template. For instance, one could be placed to separate the levels of each game (like between Halo: CE multiplayer and Halo 2 campaign... between Halo 2 multiplayer and Halo 3 campaign...). Doing this would give your eyes a place to focus on easier. [[User talk:Anubis 10545|Anubis 10545]] 02:50, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

==Perhaps we could do something like this?==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Connormah/Sandbox_5 Link]. Anyone know how to do this? I just quickly made that up on Wikipedia using the standard Navbox template over there, and was pleased with the result, and think it would be a much better way to represent this template over here. I suck at this type of thing, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks, [[User talk:G35cpe|G35cpe]] 23:31, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

:I am sure that is the very thing we have here. :-P --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}

::It looks the same, only with a more Wikipedia-y colour approach. Hell, we use the exact ''same'' navbox template, to.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 12:16, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
:::Ours here looks ''way'' more bulky, I think we should try and tone down the bulk. [[User talk:G35cpe|G35cpe]] 18:50, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
::::Yup, the same template, yet different results. lulz. Have you take the MediaWiki version into account? Wikipedia is using the MediaWiki 1.16 while Wikia (and all other wikis) is using the old 1.15.- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 19:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think it's something to do with a .css stylesheet on Wikipedia, but I don't know much when it comes to that.
:I can test experiment on my own Wiki, though, and maybe get this worked out. Thanks. [[User talk:G35cpe|G35cpe]] 19:39, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

==Interactive Strategy Game==
It has to go. It has nothing to do with the actual ''Halo'' video games, and it's not really part of the series. It's not really even a video game, it clutters up the template, and it looks bad. [[User talk:Kougermasters|Kougermasters]] 09:04, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

:The same can be applied to Hellspartans, but it's legit info. So it stays. Template looks ok, if not, fix those eyes.- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 02:53, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

===Bump===
Given the utter lack of attention the ''Interactive Strategy Game'' has received throughout its existence, is it really necessary to list the game's levels on this template? To me, it seems that this template should be reserved solely for video game levels. Frankly, I think it would be sufficient for each ''ISG'' mission to receive a brief synopsis of the game's article, nothing more; after all, there are only three of them. What does everyone else think? --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 00:31, 3 June 2014 (EDT)
:Completely agreed. The game is basically forgotten about and the level pages are so devoid of content they might as well be included in the parent article. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:39, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

:I agree. As you said, there is not enough information for each "level" to warrant its own article and can easily be merged with the ''Interactive Strategy Game'' article. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 00:40, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

::Very well. I'll give it a few more hours. If no one objects I'll remove the ''Interactive Strategy Game'' from the template tomorrow. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 22:35, 10 June 2014 (EDT)
:::I agree with those above. This list should be exclusive to the games on the console.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 22:58, 10 June 2014 (EDT)

==Halo: Reach - Forge World==
As seen in numerous Bungie videos and confirmed by Bungie themselves in numerous updates, Hemorrhage, Asylum, Paradiso, Pinnacle, and The Cage are ''built in'' and ''official'' map variants of Forge World. Therefore, I'm proposing all these levels be made into separate articles, and this addition/alteration to the template:

{{Navbox
|name = Levels/HR
|title = <small>'''''[[Halo: Reach]]'''''</small>
|style = width:100%;background:#ACE5EE;float: center;
|titlestyle = background:#ACE5EE;
|liststyle = background:#fff;font-size:90%;text-align:center;
|groupstyle = background:#9BDDFF;font-size:90%;text-align:center;width:20%;
|group1= '''[[:Category:Halo: Reach Campaign|Campaign]]'''
|list1 = [[Noble Actual]] • [[Winter Contingency|Winter Contingency]] • [[Nightfall]] • [[Tip of The Spear]] • [[Long Night of Solace]]
|group2= '''Multiplayer'''
|list2 = [[Boardwalk]] • [[Boneyard]] • [[Countdown]] • [[Forge World]] ([[Asylum]] • [[Hemorrhage]] • [[Paradiso]] • [[Pinnacle]] • [[The Cage]]) • [[Powerhouse]] • [[Reflection]] • [[Spire (map)| (map)|Spire]] • [[Sword Base]] • [[Zealot (map)|Zealot]]
|group3= '''Firefight'''
|list3 = [[Beachhead (Halo: Reach Level)|Beachhead]] • [[Corvette (map)|Corvette]] • [[Courtyard]] • [[Outpost]] • [[Overlook]] • [[Waterfront]]
}}

This proposal includes that [[The Cage]] not be a redirect to Odin's Eye, but rather the level The Cage, and that, as per above, all levels be made into articles. Not only would this follow the guidelines and the MoS, it would also help clean up and reduce the clutter on the Forge World page.  [[User:Kougermasters|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Kougermasters'''</span>]] [[User talk:Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 02:42, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

:Done. :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 08:29, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

== Category assignments ==

Could we get rid of the top-tier "[[:Category:Levels|Levels]]" category auto-assign for this template and instead have the sub-templates assign their relevant articles to the appropriate subcategories? Right now, the Levels category is rather overcrowded with ''every level in every game''. As for preventing other articles where the template is placed (e.g. game ones) from showing up in the relevant level category, isn't it possible to have a toggle in the template allowing you to turn the category assignment on and off? 

However, it would be easier to just remove the category auto-assignment altogether, since most articles have manually placed categories anyway. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 06:23, 22 June 2014 (EDT)

:I've made the appropriate changes. As of right now, simply adding <code><nowiki>{{Levels}}</nowiki></code> will automatically add the general Levels category. This is removable by specifying <code>|category=</code>. Also, if you were to specify the template to display a particular title, it will only generate that title's Campaign category ([http://www.halopedia.org/index.php?title=The_Pillar_of_Autumn_%28Halo%3A_Combat_Evolved_level%29&diff=1082520&oldid=1056600 Working example]). On the other hand, say that the article is a multiplayer article, specifying <code>|mode=</code> will replace the title's Campaign category with its Multiplayer maps category ([http://www.halopedia.org/index.php?title=Battle_Creek&diff=1082526&oldid=1006380 Working example]).— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  06:38, 22 June 2014 (EDT)

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 :I've made the appropriate changes. As of right now, simply adding <code><nowiki>{{Levels}}</nowiki></code> will automatically add the general Levels category. This is removable by specifying <code>|category=</code>. Also, if you were to specify the template to display a particular title, it will only generate that title's Campaign category ([http://www.halopedia.org/index.php?title=The_Pillar_of_Autumn_%28Halo%3A_Combat_Evolved_level%29&diff=1082520&oldid=1056600 Working example]). On the other hand, say that the article is a multiplayer article, specifying <code>|mode=</code> will replace the title's Campaign category with its Multiplayer maps category ([http://www.halopedia.org/index.php?title=Battle_Creek&diff=1082526&oldid=1006380 Working example]).— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  06:38, 22 June 2014 (EDT)
-==''Halo 2 Anniversary'' multiplayer maps==
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-We may have to separate them a bit more. Contrary to the campaign levels, which are the same with old/updated graphics, the multiplayer maps are "new" and "independent" from the original game. I'm also seeing the announcement of new Forge maps that have nothing to do with the original ''Halo 2''. (Hi "[[Awash]]", a [[:File:H2A Forge.png|completely new map]]...) [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:04, 28 October 2014 (EDT)