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::I stand corrected on the lack of a full auto function, I haven't read the manual in like seven years. However, although you can hold down the right trigger and fire it full auto, you still see Chief pull the trigger every time it's fired. Probably just part of the animation then. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 04:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC) | ::I stand corrected on the lack of a full auto function, I haven't read the manual in like seven years. However, although you can hold down the right trigger and fire it full auto, you still see Chief pull the trigger every time it's fired. Probably just part of the animation then. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 04:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::I decided to just call it like I see it in the game - we start putting crap from the manuals, you'll have to call the M6G the M6C (I think that was the mistake in one of the other manuals) as well. After all, the manual said it | :::I decided to just call it like I see it in the game - we start putting crap from the manuals, you'll have to call the M6G the M6C (I think that was the mistake in one of the other manuals) as well. After all, the manual said it. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 05:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
Nah, there's NO WAY that it could be automatic. I've fired 93Rs, 18Cs, converted MAC10s in .45ACP; I don't know how much experience any of you have with automatic weaponry, but a weapon with such a relatively short action as the big, chunky, .50 would have a ridiculously high rate of fire, and an equally prodigious knock-you-flat-on-your-ass recoil to go along with it. To get around this would require an (incredibly) weighted bolt and rate-of-fire limiters that are not practical to install in weapons of that configuration. Rate of fire in weapons using short-recoil mechanisms is typically much higher than weapons incorporating other styles; examples given are the Steyr TMP and the WWII-era MG42, which has one of the highest rates of fire of any single-barrel automatic weapon to date, and the M6 doesn't exactly demonstrate what I would consider a blistering rate of fire. Besides, you can see him pull the trigger with every shot; he also pauses ever-so-briefly to come back to a null stance before firing the next round. That's not something you can do when cyclically discharging a weapon. Not to mention the fact that the weapon operates using 12 round magazines. There's a scope on the front of the weapon; and gunsights are incredibly impractical on fully automatic pistols. Don't get me wrong here, I DO realize that a great many of people using this site probably have little to no experience with offensive weaponry (like Robert McLees), but no matter how great bad you want it to be true, a weapon that produces one discharge for every pull of the trigger, and that requires a separate trigger pull to continue firing is a semi-automatic weapon. I went over the manual, just to be sure, and unless you're trying to be facetious and pedantic, it is obviously (and correctly) interpreted as a convenient gameplay mechanic, poorly communicated because the designer or either the manual or the weapon did not know the correct terminology; note that even when the Master Chief is firing the weapon "automatically," it still requires an additional trigger pull every time he fires a round. It's also been demonstrated as the series continues that the other weapons in the M6 series are also semi-automatic. The card that "tey wur speshul gunz 4 teh mission" can't realistically be played; historically a feature like that either exists at the project's inception and is done away with in later iterations, or is adopted and kept; major, man-year time-consuming, expensive modifications are not made and implemented, then scrapped and done away with in the course of less than a year. That's not how it works, and that's not how the gun works. So to finish, if the "auto-supporters" are right, we're looking at a shoddily and hastily constructed pile of ass and recoil that no one but a Spartan would be able to fire, and then only for less than a second before his mag went dry. Oh wait, I guess the .50's not automatic then is it? Q.E.D. [[User talk:Griever0311|Griever0311]] 00:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC) | Nah, there's NO WAY that it could be automatic. I've fired 93Rs, 18Cs, converted MAC10s in .45ACP; I don't know how much experience any of you have with automatic weaponry, but a weapon with such a relatively short action as the big, chunky, .50 would have a ridiculously high rate of fire, and an equally prodigious knock-you-flat-on-your-ass recoil to go along with it. To get around this would require an (incredibly) weighted bolt and rate-of-fire limiters that are not practical to install in weapons of that configuration. Rate of fire in weapons using short-recoil mechanisms is typically much higher than weapons incorporating other styles; examples given are the Steyr TMP and the WWII-era MG42, which has one of the highest rates of fire of any single-barrel automatic weapon to date, and the M6 doesn't exactly demonstrate what I would consider a blistering rate of fire. Besides, you can see him pull the trigger with every shot; he also pauses ever-so-briefly to come back to a null stance before firing the next round. That's not something you can do when cyclically discharging a weapon. Not to mention the fact that the weapon operates using 12 round magazines. There's a scope on the front of the weapon; and gunsights are incredibly impractical on fully automatic pistols. Don't get me wrong here, I DO realize that a great many of people using this site probably have little to no experience with offensive weaponry (like Robert McLees), but no matter how great bad you want it to be true, a weapon that produces one discharge for every pull of the trigger, and that requires a separate trigger pull to continue firing is a semi-automatic weapon. I went over the manual, just to be sure, and unless you're trying to be facetious and pedantic, it is obviously (and correctly) interpreted as a convenient gameplay mechanic, poorly communicated because the designer or either the manual or the weapon did not know the correct terminology; note that even when the Master Chief is firing the weapon "automatically," it still requires an additional trigger pull every time he fires a round. It's also been demonstrated as the series continues that the other weapons in the M6 series are also semi-automatic. The card that "tey wur speshul gunz 4 teh mission" can't realistically be played; historically a feature like that either exists at the project's inception and is done away with in later iterations, or is adopted and kept; major, man-year time-consuming, expensive modifications are not made and implemented, then scrapped and done away with in the course of less than a year. That's not how it works, and that's not how the gun works. So to finish, if the "auto-supporters" are right, we're looking at a shoddily and hastily constructed pile of ass and recoil that no one but a Spartan would be able to fire, and then only for less than a second before his mag went dry. Oh wait, I guess the .50's not automatic then is it? Q.E.D. [[User talk:Griever0311|Griever0311]] 00:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC) |