Editing Talk:Battle of New Mombasa

==Untitled==
Before you speak, think and look. As you can see, this is already being discussed here.
:--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Master Gunnery Sergeant]] [[User:Rotaretilbo/Hank|Hank J Wimbleton IV]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|COM]]</sup> 00:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

== Merge? ==

*'''Merge''' Isn't this pretty much the same battle as the First Battle of Earth?
~Chickenman
:I hope to add more in the future, and therefore make it seperate. Thanks. Cheers, <tt>TRU</tt><sup>7</sup>[[Special:Contributions/RelentlessRecusant|<tt>H</tt>]] 04:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
::I don't see why it needs to be a separate battle though.~Chickenman
*'''Leave it be''' As long as you add more information I don't see a problem with it being here - Ares.117

*'''Merge''' Its just more details--Chazz 02:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
*'''Leave it be''' Not necessarily. the first battle of earth encompasses the entire conflict, both space and ground, while this battle here discusses solely the battle in the city of [[New Mombasa]]. I'm guessing this will also occur for Halo 3's perceived earth battle, with the entire planet (or at least a large part of it) being in conflict with seperate battles in different locations taking place. Dude984 00:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
*'''Merge'''. It was all one battle, and just because it took place in two places doesn't mean it deserves two articles. Add more details to the First Battle of Earth page. -[[User:ED|ED]] 20:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
*'''Leave it be''' - Though this is technically part of the First Battle of Earth, it is a much more specific battle. Normally, this wouldn't occur, but since there are more than one planets and fights over planets can end in days, instead of each planet's fight being called a war or campaign, it is called a battle. That doesn't mean that the smaller engagements on the surface aren't their own battles, however.
:--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Master Gunnery Sergeant]] [[User:Rotaretilbo/Hank|Hank J Wimbleton IV]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|COM]]</sup> 00:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
*'''Merge'''  This is just a specific part of the First Battle of Earth, make it into a section in the First Battle of Earth article.  Unless significantly more information is added there is too short to be on its own.--Raptor117 03:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' Per ED. --<b><span style="color: blue">камбуз</span></b> File:Caboose.jpg|35 px]] <sup><b><span style="color: orange">Orange Juice</span></b> and <b><span style="color: brown">Cookies</span></b></sup> 20:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' Per ED, The first battle of Earth should detail every part of the battle because it was so short. Capt Bartlett 16:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
*'''Leave it be''' we have articles on the sub-battles on Installation 04, so why not have a battle of Mombasa article?[[User:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 21:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

*Where the heck is he pulling those casualty numbers out of? user:Ecko87

== Slipspace Crater ==

The first cinematic of ODST shows The Prophet of Regret's carrier slipping out of the city, and leaving a crater a few hundred yards in diameter in the ground. this crater exists on the Eastern side of New Mombasa, between the city and the Indian Ocean. The excavations site the reveals the Forerunner Portal Generator is several dozen miles in diameter and exists between New Mombasa and Voi. Voi is far inland and to the North-West of New Mombasa.

The final cinematic of ODST shows the excavation site and the slipspace crater. They are obviously two separate holes in the ground. They also do not intersect, as there are a couple of miles of mainland Africa between them.

So how is it that the slipspace crater reveals the portal. Is this just an assumption. Or is this idea simply based off the fact that Dare states(on Coastal Highway) that the cruisers are headed for the crater.

I propose that Dare was mistaken, and that the Covenant have no interest in the crater, and that they knew the portal was there during the first invasion of Earth (the one that only Regret's carrier survived.)
Spartan999 01:54, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

==Heavy Civilian Casualties?==
This article says that civilian casualties were high. Earlier in the article, it states that most of the civilian population survived and escaped. And given very few civilians are ever seen during the battle, I doubt they were high at all. Should we change this?[[Special:Contributions/205.246.4.61|205.246.4.61]] 20:15, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

:Halo 3: ODST's opening scroll: ''"A Covenant carrier has breached Earth's defenses and attacked the African mega-city, "New Mombasa".  Initial reports confirm major damage and '''heavy civilian casualties'''."'' - So yeah.  --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 20:18, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

== Case for tactical victory ==

UNSC's gains are more important in this battle due to the huragok defecting and giving UNSC important knowledge? --[[User:Jarr|Jarr]] ([[User talk:Jarr|talk]]) 17:05, 7 February 2017 (EST)

:The Huragok hardly helped them though. Quick to Adjuct was vague in nearly everything he said to the UNSC/ONI.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 17:07, 7 February 2017 (EST)

But surely Covenant's gains are strategically insignificant in comparison, business as usual relatively speaking --[[User:Jarr|Jarr]] ([[User talk:Jarr|talk]]) 17:10, 7 February 2017 (EST)

:Except where they discover the thing that will allow them to achieve their goals from the vary start of their empire. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 17:18, 7 February 2017 (EST)

== Thing is ==

Thats more covered in the main Battle of Earth article though and Voi too --[[User:Jarr|Jarr]] ([[User talk:Jarr|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2017 (EST)