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| {{Achievement infobox | | {{Achievement infobox |
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| |name = If They Came to Hear Me Beg | | |name = If They Came to Hear Me Beg |
| |game = Halo: Reach | | |game = Halo: Reach |
| |img = [[File:HR Achievement If They Came to Hear Me Beg.png|64px]] | | |img = [[File:if they came to hear me beg.png|64px]] |
| |gs = 25 | | |gs = 25 |
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| '''If They Came to Hear Me Beg''' is a [[campaign]] [[Achievement]] in ''[[Halo: Reach]]''. The achievement is awarded when a player performs an [[assassination]] against a [[Sangheili]] to "survive a fall that would’ve been fatal." It is represented by a [[combat knife]] over red, circular saw blade.{{Ref/Site|D=01|M=6|Y=2020|URL=http://halo.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_070910|Site=Bungie.net|Page=Bungie Weekly Update 07.09.10}} The achievement did not return with the release of ''Halo: Reach'' as part of ''[[Halo: The Master Chief Collection]]'', however it was included as a [[Challenges/Halo: The Master Chief Collection|Challenge]] during [[Series 5: Anvil]]; completing the challenge unlocks the [[Mister Chief]] attachment for the [[Mariner]] helmet. | | '''If They Came to Hear Me Beg''' is a [[Campaign]] [[Achievement]] in ''[[Halo: Reach]]''. The achievement is awarded when a player performs an assassination against a [[Sangheili]] to "survive a fall that would’ve been fatal." It is represented by a combat knife over red, circular saw blade.<ref>[http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_070910 '''Bungie.net''': ''Bungie Weekly Update 07.09.10'']</ref> |
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| ==Methods== | | ==Trivia== |
| *The easiest way to get this achievement is at the very beginning of [[The Pillar of Autumn (Halo: Reach level)|The Pillar of Autumn]]. At the bottom of the cliff, there is an Elite and by jumping off the cliff using [[Armor abilities#Sprint|sprint]], it is possible to get the achievement. Remember to deactivate sprint just after jumping off. | | *The achievement's name is derived from a quote by [[Thel 'Vadam]] during his shaming; "''If they came to hear me beg, they will be disappointed.''"<ref>''[[Halo 2]]'' level, [[Cairo Station (level)|Cairo Station]]</ref> |
| *It is also possible, albeit very difficult, to get the achievement while jumping off of the [[Deployment spire|spire]] on the level [[Tip of the Spear]].
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| *There is also a ledge in the beginning of [[Nightfall]] that makes this possible, albeit difficult and rather unlikely. Should probably be attempted only on [[Legendary]], and note that this ledge is above the pathway the player and Jun take, requiring one to take it, and double back on top.
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| ==Production notes==
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| This achievement was implemented into ''Halo: Reach'' as intentionally difficult to acquire. During the testing of ''Reach'', over 30 man-hours were put into testing of the achievement to ensure it was fair to unlock; the "finicky" physics that often caused the player to fail the achievement were deemed to be part of the intent, and left in the build. During the porting of ''Halo: Reach'' into ''The Master Chief Collection'' in [[2019]], the achievement was considered for inclusion in the [[Achievements (Halo: The Master Chief Collection)|achievement roster]], but ultimately left out due to reservations about the amount of time needed to properly implement it. The challenge was implemented in ''The Master Chief Collection'' during Season 5 as part of the [[Challenges/Halo: The Master Chief Collection|Seasonal Challenge]] system under the name ''Because You Begged'', due to popular demand. The silly nature of the challenge unlocks the [[Mister Chief]] attachment for the [[Mariner]] helmet, though many players expressed concerns that the challenge was unable to be unlocked even if the requirements were met. This is due to [[343 Industries]] leaving the internal game logic for the challenge completion unchanged from the original ''Halo: Reach'' (unlike the similarly brought-back [[Vidmaster Challenge: Endure]] for ''[[Halo 3: ODST]]'').{{Ref/Site|Id=MCCUpdate|D=01|M=6|Y=2020|URL=https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/243780d3b80b4bb6ac7917a8942286db/topics/mcc-development-flighting-updates/3e3252e1-297a-4590-a7ab-67c133b3d37d/posts?page=4#post65|Site=Halo Waypoint Forums|Page=MCC Development & Flighting Updates|Detail=Page 4, Post 65 (January 29 update)}}
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| Due to the bugged nature of the ''Because You Begged'' challenge, 343 Industries recommended against continuing to try and unlock it if issues are encountered until such a time as the cause can be identified{{Ref/Reuse|MCCUpdate}}, later discovering that the issue can be glitched for players who completed the achievement requirements successfully prior to the challenge. As such, deleting local saved player data then completing the challenge can cause the challenge to unlock successfully.{{Ref/Site|Id=MCCUpdate2|D=01|M=6|Y=2020|URL=https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/243780d3b80b4bb6ac7917a8942286db/topics/mcc-development-flighting-updates/3e3252e1-297a-4590-a7ab-67c133b3d37d/posts?page=4#post67|Site=Halo Waypoint Forums|Page=MCC Development & Flighting Updates|Detail=Page 4, Post 67 (February 05 update)}} A guide on how to do this can be found [https://support.halowaypoint.com/hc/en-us/articles/360056553131 here].
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| ==Trivia==
| | *The easiest way to get this achievement is at the very beginning of [[The Pillar of Autumn (Halo: Reach level)|The Pillar of Autumn]]. At the bottom of the cliff, there is an Elite and by jumping off the cliff using sprint, it is possible to get the achievement. Remember to turn off sprint just after jumping off. |
| The achievement's name is derived from a quote by [[Thel 'Vadam]] during his shaming in ''[[Halo 2]]''; "''If they came to hear me beg, they will be disappointed.''"{{Ref/Level|H2|Cairo Station}} | | *It is also possible, albeit very difficult, to get the achievement while jumping off of the [[Covenant Spire|spire]] on the level [[Tip of the Spear]]. |
| | *There is also a ledge in the beginning of Nightfall that makes this possible, albeit difficult and rather unlikely. Should probably be attempted only on Legendary, and note that this ledge is above the pathway you and Jun take, requiring you to take it, and double back on top. |
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| {{Halo: Reach achievements}} | | {{Halo: Reach Achievements}} |
| | [[Category:Achievements]] |
