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#'''Against''' - Honestly, Ryan does not have what it takes to be an admin. He does not have the experience or the personality required for such a big job. There is very little he could help out with, as Relentless and GPT have the "active" part covered, and he doesn't know enough about wiki coding (from what I have seen). Both GPT and Relentless made significant contributions to Halopedia before being appointed admins. This is not a popularity contest. It is an appointment to the biggest responsibility on any wiki, and votes should be made seriously. [[User:Spartan-091|SPARTAN]] File:Master_sergeant.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Spartan-091|HelmetComm]]<nowiki>||</nowiki>[[User:Spartan-091/askAI|Juliet]] 03:16, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

:I can get by with the coding and i am an admin on another wikia.--'''[[General|General]] [[User:Ryanngreenday|"Running]]''' '''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|Riot"]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|Ryan]]''' File:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]] ''[[User:Ryanngreenday#If_you.27ve_played_xbl_with_me|'''BAM''']]'' 02:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

#'''Against''' - This was a difficult decision for me. Ryan is definately very present: he can oftentimes be seen on the IRC, which is a big plus towards administratorship. However, one of the weighing problems is the lack of technical expertise: GPT has shown remarkable prowess with Javascript, CSS, HTML, and Python languages, and I myself keep some stuff handy. I'd appreciate it if Ryan could perhaps begin to work more with the HTML/Wiki syntax templates besides userboxes, and eventually graduate from there to more of the difficult languages, which I personally garnered from variegated experiences over various Wikias. Furthermore, I believe with some other users that administratorship isn't just knowing how to delete/block/protect, or even technical responsibilities to try to enhance the MediaWiki interface, but also community moderation: in Halopedia, administratorship is just more than delete/block/protect, it requires community work. I'd personally like to see Ryan in the role of a major community participant and be able to evaluate him - he's always been a great part of the community, but more Halopedia-related community work would be appreciated, not just Halopedia''n''-related community work. I'm very sorry, Ryan...it's rather paining for me to write this, as I perfectly understand your position, as I was there two months ago, and it was ED, Dragonclaws, and Esemono delivering the lecture and myself abjectly scrolling over the words and making hard introspections. However, I'd be glad to speak to you regarding however I can help you in the future. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|'''RelentlessRecusant''']] 'o the [[~~haloalpha~~:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] [[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|TALK]] • [http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new MESSAGE] 05:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

#'''Against''' - This was a difficult decision for me. Ryan is definately very present: he can oftentimes be seen on the IRC, which is a big plus towards administratorship. However, one of the weighing problems is the lack of technical expertise: GPT has shown remarkable prowess with Javascript, CSS, HTML, and Python languages, and I myself keep some stuff handy. I'd appreciate it if Ryan could perhaps begin to work more with the HTML/Wiki syntax templates besides userboxes, and eventually graduate from there to more of the difficult languages, which I personally garnered from variegated experiences over various Wikias. Furthermore, I believe with some other users that administratorship isn't just knowing how to delete/block/protect, or even technical responsibilities to try to enhance the MediaWiki interface, but also community moderation: in Halopedia, administratorship is just more than delete/block/protect, it requires community work. I'd personally like to see Ryan in the role of a major community participant and be able to evaluate him - he's always been a great part of the community, but more Halopedia-related community work would be appreciated, not just Halopedia''n''-related community work. I'm very sorry, Ryan...it's rather paining for me to write this, as I perfectly understand your position, as I was there two months ago, and it was ED, Dragonclaws, and Esemono delivering the lecture and myself abjectly scrolling over the words and making hard introspections. However, I'd be glad to speak to you regarding however I can help you in the future. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|'''RelentlessRecusant''']] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] [[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|TALK]] • [http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new MESSAGE] 05:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

#'''Against''' Ryan: you are a very friendly person, you are enjoyable to talk to, but your conduct carries the mark of inexperience. While there are some things (such as Generalship in UoH) where that might be fine for, it is much different in the Administrator's chair. I think you are intelligent enough that you could, one day, be an administrator, but I believe you need to learn more about conduct before you do so. Aside from the one incident that I've made clear to you, I know of at least two other major incidents where your conduct has been called into question. Yes, you learned from each of them and I think you honestly improved from them, but I don't believe you have learnt enough to be an Administrator at this time --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 02:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

#'''Against''' I personally have a fair amount of respect for you, but as an admin, I'm not sure you'd do well. As the others have stated, you're rather active, but don't seem to possess any tech skills. Besides all that though, you've had some rather big issues with other Halopedia users in the past. I'm not sure you wouldn't use your new found sysop abilities to make problems for your old nemesis. Sorry. -- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 01:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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##'''Comment against GPT''': At least he'll be better than you. You change the skin without consulting other users. You don't welcome much new users either.How do you know that Ryan will not use the "delete" and "block" button well? I see that you blocked some users which I feel were inappropriate. GPT, think about it.--[[User:Spartan781|'''Spartan-781''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] [[User talk:Spartan781|Comm]][[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|CSV]] 12:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

###That's not the point, Spartan781. This thread is to discuss Ryanngreenday, not GPT's conduct. Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|'''RelentlessRecusant''']] 'o the [[~~haloalpha~~:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] [[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|TALK]] • [http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new MESSAGE] 17:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

###That's not the point, Spartan781. This thread is to discuss Ryanngreenday, not GPT's conduct. Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|'''RelentlessRecusant''']] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] [[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|TALK]] • [http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new MESSAGE] 17:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

###Spartan781, I changed it so that I '''could''' consult users. Without doing that there would be nothing I could do, although I '''did''' ask ryan for help, and he ignored me. --NOTASTAFF [[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|GPT]]([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|talk]])([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|eating]]) 04:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

###Spartan781, you're a good guy and all, don't get me wrong, but uh... admins do unexpected things ALL the time. You can't have every single Halopedian user's(controlled by RR and his so-called powah and unlimited cookies) permission just to do something. If you don't like something, comment and they'll think about it. --[[user:Blemo|Blemo]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif [[user talk:Blemo|TALK]] • [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Blemo CONTRIBUTIONS] 01:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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###I think he '''was''' talking about my conduct, but that's beside the point. Relentless is right, let's keep this about ryan.

##No offense, but do you know what it's like to be in the "Administrator's chair"? I do, and let me describe it to you: it's no big deal. You act like it's becoming King of Halopedia, but being admin is nothing huge. The only extra things you can do are delete pages, block users, and edit MediaWiki pages. That's it. Not only that, but Ryanngreenday has been here for almost exactly 1 year, and has been here for longer than both RR and GPT, so I think that he ''has'' learned enough to be Administrator here, probably more than enough. [[User:Phil.e.|''' ''Phil.e.'' ''']] [[User talk:Phil.e.|[Talk to me]]] 20:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

###With all due respect, I was here several days earlier than Ryan. ^^ ;-) Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|'''RelentlessRecusant''']] 'o the [[~~haloalpha~~:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] [[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|TALK]] • [http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new MESSAGE] 04:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

###With all due respect, I was here several days earlier than Ryan. ^^ ;-) Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|'''RelentlessRecusant''']] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] [[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|TALK]] • [http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new MESSAGE] 04:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

###You're right...forgot to check RelentlessRogue ;) [[User:Phil.e.|''' ''Phil.e.'' ''']] [[User talk:Phil.e.|[Talk to me]]] 16:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

####With all due respect, I was at Halopedia several years earlier than Relentless. ^^ (not here--at Halopedia, halopedia.org) --NOTASTAFF [[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|GPT]]([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|talk]])([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|eating]]) 04:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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 #'''Against''' - Honestly, Ryan does not have what it takes to be an admin. He does not have the experience or the personality required for such a big job. There is very little he could help out with, as Relentless and GPT have the "active" part covered, and he doesn't know enough about wiki coding (from what I have seen). Both GPT and Relentless made significant contributions to Halopedia before being appointed admins. This is not a popularity contest. It is an appointment to the biggest responsibility on any wiki, and votes should be made seriously. [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN</span></b>]] File:Master_sergeant.jpg|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: black">HelmetComm</span></b>]]</sup><sup><nowiki>||</nowiki></sup><sup>[[User:Spartan-091/askAI|<b><span style="color: #6666ff">Juliet</span></b>]]</sup> 03:16, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 :I can get by with the coding and i am an admin on another wikia.--'''<font color="black">[[General|<font color="red">General</font>]]</font> [[User:Ryanngreenday|<font color="red">"Running</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="red">Riot"</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="red">Ryan</font>]]''' File:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]] ''[[User:Ryanngreenday#If_you.27ve_played_xbl_with_me|<font color="black">'''BAM'''</font>]]'' 02:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
-#'''Against''' - This was a difficult decision for me. Ryan is definately very present: he can oftentimes be seen on the IRC, which is a big plus towards administratorship. However, one of the weighing problems is the lack of technical expertise: GPT has shown remarkable prowess with Javascript, CSS, HTML, and Python languages, and I myself keep some stuff handy. I'd appreciate it if Ryan could perhaps begin to work more with the HTML/Wiki syntax templates besides userboxes, and eventually graduate from there to more of the difficult languages, which I personally garnered from variegated experiences over various Wikias. Furthermore, I believe with some other users that administratorship isn't just knowing how to delete/block/protect, or even technical responsibilities to try to enhance the MediaWiki interface, but also community moderation: in Halopedia, administratorship is just more than delete/block/protect, it requires community work. I'd personally like to see Ryan in the role of a major community participant and be able to evaluate him - he's always been a great part of the community, but more Halopedia-related community work would be appreciated, not just Halopedia''n''-related community work. I'm very sorry, Ryan...it's rather paining for me to write this, as I perfectly understand your position, as I was there two months ago, and it was ED, Dragonclaws, and Esemono delivering the lecture and myself abjectly scrolling over the words and making hard introspections. However, I'd be glad to speak to you regarding however I can help you in the future. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[haloalpha:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]]  <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new   <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 05:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
+#'''Against''' - This was a difficult decision for me. Ryan is definately very present: he can oftentimes be seen on the IRC, which is a big plus towards administratorship. However, one of the weighing problems is the lack of technical expertise: GPT has shown remarkable prowess with Javascript, CSS, HTML, and Python languages, and I myself keep some stuff handy. I'd appreciate it if Ryan could perhaps begin to work more with the HTML/Wiki syntax templates besides userboxes, and eventually graduate from there to more of the difficult languages, which I personally garnered from variegated experiences over various Wikias. Furthermore, I believe with some other users that administratorship isn't just knowing how to delete/block/protect, or even technical responsibilities to try to enhance the MediaWiki interface, but also community moderation: in Halopedia, administratorship is just more than delete/block/protect, it requires community work. I'd personally like to see Ryan in the role of a major community participant and be able to evaluate him - he's always been a great part of the community, but more Halopedia-related community work would be appreciated, not just Halopedia''n''-related community work. I'm very sorry, Ryan...it's rather paining for me to write this, as I perfectly understand your position, as I was there two months ago, and it was ED, Dragonclaws, and Esemono delivering the lecture and myself abjectly scrolling over the words and making hard introspections. However, I'd be glad to speak to you regarding however I can help you in the future. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]]  <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new   <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 05:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 #'''Against''' Ryan: you are a very friendly person, you are enjoyable to talk to, but your conduct carries the mark of inexperience.  While there are some things (such as Generalship in UoH) where that might be fine for, it is much different in the Administrator's chair.  I think you are intelligent enough that you could, one day, be an administrator, but I believe you need to learn more about conduct before you do so.  Aside from the one incident that I've made clear to you, I know of at least two other major incidents where your conduct has been called into question.  Yes, you learned from each of them and I think you honestly improved from them, but I don't believe you have learnt enough to be an Administrator at this time --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 02:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 #'''Against''' I personally have a fair amount of respect for you, but as an admin, I'm not sure you'd do well. As the others have stated, you're rather active, but don't seem to possess any tech skills. Besides all that though, you've had some rather big issues with other Halopedia users in the past. I'm not sure you wouldn't use your new found sysop abilities to make problems for your old nemesis. Sorry. -- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 01:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
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 ##'''Comment against GPT''': At least he'll be better than you. You change the skin without consulting other users. You don't welcome much new users either.How do you know that Ryan will not use the "delete" and "block" button well? I see that you blocked some users which I feel were inappropriate. GPT, think about it.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 12:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
-###That's not the point, Spartan781. This thread is to discuss Ryanngreenday, not GPT's conduct. Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[haloalpha:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]]  <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new   <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 17:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
+###That's not the point, Spartan781. This thread is to discuss Ryanngreenday, not GPT's conduct. Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]]  <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new   <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 17:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 ###Spartan781, I changed it so that I '''could''' consult users. Without doing that there would be nothing I could do, although I '''did''' ask ryan for help, and he ignored me. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 04:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 ###Spartan781, you're a good guy and all, don't get me wrong, but uh... admins do unexpected things ALL the time. You can't have every single Halopedian user's(controlled by RR and his so-called powah and unlimited cookies) permission just to do something. If you don't like something, comment and they'll think about it. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> 01:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
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 ###I think he '''was''' talking about my conduct, but that's beside the point. Relentless is right, let's keep this about ryan.
 ##No offense, but do you know what it's like to be in the "Administrator's chair"? I do, and let me describe it to you: it's no big deal. You act like it's becoming King of Halopedia, but being admin is nothing huge. The only extra things you can do are delete pages, block users, and edit MediaWiki pages. That's it. Not only that, but Ryanngreenday has been here for almost exactly 1 year, and has been here for longer than both RR and GPT, so I think that he ''has'' learned enough to be Administrator here, probably more than enough. [[User:Phil.e.|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New; font-size:10pt; color:white;">''' ''Phil.e.'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Phil.e.|<span style="color:black;">[Talk to me]</span>]]</sup> 20:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
-###With all due respect, I was here several days earlier than Ryan. ^^ ;-) Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[haloalpha:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]]  <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new   <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 04:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
+###With all due respect, I was here several days earlier than Ryan. ^^ ;-) Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]]  <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new   <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 04:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 ###You're right...forgot to check RelentlessRogue ;) [[User:Phil.e.|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New; font-size:10pt; color:white;">''' ''Phil.e.'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Phil.e.|<span style="color:black;">[Talk to me]</span>]]</sup> 16:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 ####With all due respect, I was at Halopedia several years earlier than Relentless. ^^ (not here--at Halopedia, halopedia.org) --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 04:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)