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Sangheili are colourblind. They cannot see purple. The entire time they thought that they were using blue. Their visual spectrum ranges from Blue to the infrabrown range. Therefore it can be assumed that they do not have a word for purple and instead they use other species' words to describe colours in the purple region that they cannot see. Josh Holmes and Frankie conformed that on Twitter. Check my Twitter for the source because I cannot link you since I am on mobile phone. My account is: @TheMasterBuild1 {{Unsigned| | Sangheili are colourblind. They cannot see purple. The entire time they thought that they were using blue. Their visual spectrum ranges from Blue to the infrabrown range. Therefore it can be assumed that they do not have a word for purple and instead they use other species' words to describe colours in the purple region that they cannot see. Josh Holmes and Frankie conformed that on Twitter. Check my Twitter for the source because I cannot link you since I am on mobile phone. My account is: @TheMasterBuild1 {{Unsigned|The Master Builder}} | ||
:[https://twitter.com/JoshingtonState/status/458279139850858497 For ease of reference]. Anyway, what is confirmed by the the staff is this: Elites are [[wikipedia:Dichromacy|dichromats]] <s>and they cannot perceive blue (tritanopia)</s>. Not so sure what is meant by "infrabrown range". Other than that is MasterBuilder's own speculation. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 15:05, 21 April 2014 (EDT) | :[https://twitter.com/JoshingtonState/status/458279139850858497 For ease of reference]. Anyway, what is confirmed by the the staff is this: Elites are [[wikipedia:Dichromacy|dichromats]] <s>and they cannot perceive blue (tritanopia)</s>. Not so sure what is meant by "infrabrown range". Other than that is MasterBuilder's own speculation. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 15:05, 21 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
Nobody said that they are dichromats, only that they see our purple as blue. We should ask Frankie for clarification. About infra brown; brown is made of black,yellow and red and covers many wavelengths. We should state only that Sangheili see purple as blue. {{Unsigned| | Nobody said that they are dichromats, only that they see our purple as blue. We should ask Frankie for clarification. About infra brown; brown is made of black,yellow and red and covers many wavelengths. We should state only that Sangheili see purple as blue. {{Unsigned|The Master Builder}} | ||
:Considering the source linked sounds entirely like a joke at Mr. O'Connor's expense, I would err on the side of doubt until we get a more official source for it. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:59, 22 April 2014 (EDT) | :Considering the source linked sounds entirely like a joke at Mr. O'Connor's expense, I would err on the side of doubt until we get a more official source for it. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:59, 22 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
For now we should leave it as it is. What we can do is bombard 343i on Twitter about the subject. I can get a couple of Archivers to assist.{{Unsigned| | For now we should leave it as it is. What we can do is bombard 343i on Twitter about the subject. I can get a couple of Archivers to assist.{{Unsigned|The Master Builder}} | ||
I added a template tag for "Verify_Source" as I don't believe there are any merits to including this colour vision issue in the article. The first problem is that due to the tweet no longer being available, it's now very difficult for people to assess the context within which the tweet was made. Was it a serious observation or comment on the canon, or just something made in jest? Looking at the text of the tweet, above, it seems to have been a friendly jibe at Frank O'Conner's expense as opposed to a proper comment on the fiction. | I added a template tag for "Verify_Source" as I don't believe there are any merits to including this colour vision issue in the article. The first problem is that due to the tweet no longer being available, it's now very difficult for people to assess the context within which the tweet was made. Was it a serious observation or comment on the canon, or just something made in jest? Looking at the text of the tweet, above, it seems to have been a friendly jibe at Frank O'Conner's expense as opposed to a proper comment on the fiction. | ||
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It's pretty agreed upon by the fansbase that despite graphical differences, the elites in Halo 1, 2,3, and ODST are all of the same phenotype. Beyond that, we also know the Reach elites and 4/5 elites are a different phenotype. However, there is a distinction in appearance for the Halo Wars elites that also appear in The Package. I would like to add an image for the Halo Wars elite at the top of the article. But, I wanted to get the okay and not be presumptuous. From where I sit, based on facial structure, number of teeth, body shape etc, the Halo Wars elite is a distinct phenotype from the other 3 we have covered already. Please confirm I can add it in and I will. Thanks--[[Special:Contributions/24.187.82.207|24.187.82.207]] 13:15, October 18, 2020 (EDT) | It's pretty agreed upon by the fansbase that despite graphical differences, the elites in Halo 1, 2,3, and ODST are all of the same phenotype. Beyond that, we also know the Reach elites and 4/5 elites are a different phenotype. However, there is a distinction in appearance for the Halo Wars elites that also appear in The Package. I would like to add an image for the Halo Wars elite at the top of the article. But, I wanted to get the okay and not be presumptuous. From where I sit, based on facial structure, number of teeth, body shape etc, the Halo Wars elite is a distinct phenotype from the other 3 we have covered already. Please confirm I can add it in and I will. Thanks--[[Special:Contributions/24.187.82.207|24.187.82.207]] 13:15, October 18, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:Sounds reasonable - you're referring to the Halo Wars announcement trailer elites and the Package ones, right? The only main issue in my thoughts is that the stylisation of these (and the trailer status of one) makes them somewhat dubious. Though the HW cutscenes are fully valid. I'll bring it up in the Discord to get some second opinions but my thinking as of now is this seems pretty reasonable.[[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 13:18, October 18, 2020 (EDT) | :Sounds reasonable - you're referring to the Halo Wars announcement trailer elites and the Package ones, right? The only main issue in my thoughts is that the stylisation of these (and the trailer status of one) makes them somewhat dubious. Though the HW cutscenes are fully valid. I'll bring it up in the Discord to get some second opinions but my thinking as of now is this seems pretty reasonable.[[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 13:18, October 18, 2020 (EDT) | ||