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{{FactOrFictionTalk|03:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)|[[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]]|Any proof? This sounds like the [[Assault Carrier]] to me.}} | |||
==Fact Or Fiction== | ==Fact Or Fiction== | ||
:This ship is a lower class then the assalit carrier. {{unsigned|Darth nexes}} | :This ship is a lower class then the assalit carrier. {{unsigned|Darth nexes}} | ||
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::::*The Rampant Speculation is you Speculating that this Ship Classification even exists. Common sense would dictate that this is an [[Assault Carrier]]. To say its a whole new class of ship is rampant Speculation. Once we have some dimensions we'll know for sure. -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 06:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | ::::*The Rampant Speculation is you Speculating that this Ship Classification even exists. Common sense would dictate that this is an [[Assault Carrier]]. To say its a whole new class of ship is rampant Speculation. Once we have some dimensions we'll know for sure. -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 06:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
:*And common sense would dictate the rank system used by the UNSC is the American system, but you call that rampant speculation. Now, turn with me to page 297 of [[Halo: First Strike]]: "There were Covenant cruisers and larger carriers; there were even bigger vessels with five bulbous sections that were two kilometers stem to stern and had a dozen deadly energy projectors." Now, if these new vessels are larger than carriers, then carriers are smaller than 2000m. Now, even assuming the ''Ascendant Justice'' is an [[Assault Carrier]], the smallest Assault Carrier is 3000m. See any problems with your theory? As I have said before, I think you should try double checking instead of making everyone else prove themselves. I am sick of arguing with your double standard, where when you speculate, it is common sense, but when someone else speculates, it is rampant speculation. I am going to remove the Fact Or Fiction template again.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1542 11.12.06 | :*And common sense would dictate the rank system used by the UNSC is the American system, but you call that rampant speculation. Now, turn with me to page 297 of [[Halo: First Strike]]: "There were Covenant cruisers and larger carriers; there were even bigger vessels with five bulbous sections that were two kilometers stem to stern and had a dozen deadly energy projectors." Now, if these new vessels are larger than carriers, then carriers are smaller than 2000m. Now, even assuming the ''Ascendant Justice'' is an [[Assault Carrier]], the smallest Assault Carrier is 3000m. See any problems with your theory? As I have said before, I think you should try double checking instead of making everyone else prove themselves. I am sick of arguing with your double standard, where when you speculate, it is common sense, but when someone else speculates, it is rampant speculation. I am going to remove the Fact Or Fiction template again.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1542 11.12.06 | ||
::*Furthermore, ''Ghosts of Onyx'' states that a UNSC Destroyer careened into a carrier ''three times its length''. 485 meters x 3 = 1455 meters. The Assault Carrier is what...5340+ meters? Also, Yamamba, even if it is ambiguous that there's a seperate carrier classification, then this "Covenant Carrier" would serve as a placeholder classification, as per standard logic and Wookieepedia standards. Thank you, Rot. Cheers, <tt>'''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]'' | ::*Furthermore, ''Ghosts of Onyx'' states that a UNSC Destroyer careened into a carrier ''three times its length''. 485 meters x 3 = 1455 meters. The Assault Carrier is what...5340+ meters? Also, Yamamba, even if it is ambiguous that there's a seperate carrier classification, then this "Covenant Carrier" would serve as a placeholder classification, as per standard logic and Wookieepedia standards. Thank you, Rot. Cheers, <tt>'''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]'''</tt> 02:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
:::*I always wondered where you got that length from...lol--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 03:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | :::*I always wondered where you got that length from...lol--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 03:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
::::*No problemo, Rot. May I call you "Rot" for short? Cheers, <tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]'' | ::::*No problemo, Rot. May I call you "Rot" for short? Cheers, <tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''']</tt> 11:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
:::::Certainly--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 22:37, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | :::::Certainly--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 22:37, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
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One article in a game preview hardly proves anything, they could have called the ship "supercruiser" and people like you would instantly consider this true, even if it came from an article you found on the web, until directly confirmed by ensemble or bungie. | One article in a game preview hardly proves anything, they could have called the ship "supercruiser" and people like you would instantly consider this true, even if it came from an article you found on the web, until directly confirmed by ensemble or bungie. | ||
And i doubt IGN knows anything about covenant starship classifications, when they said "massive orbital carriers" it was probably just to enhance the feeling of "mightyness" when glassing a planet. | And i doubt IGN knows anything about covenant starship classifications, when they said "massive orbital carriers" it was probably just to enhance the feeling of "mightyness" when glassing a planet. | ||
I suggest you take a look at this:[http:// | I suggest you take a look at this:[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halopedia:Canon_Policy] instead of making more of your claims. | ||
Ok before you go criticizing me you offer proof that its not. A single description from a book isn't good enough. Because according to that the Second fleet of Homogenous Clarity is 100 ships strong. Elites also have to turn on their energy shields. Depictions vary in the Halo universe including once again Xytan jar Wattinree being 11'6.--[[User:Councilor 'Rumilee|Councilor 'Rumilee]] 19:11, 4 September 2008 (UTC) | Ok before you go criticizing me you offer proof that its not. A single description from a book isn't good enough. Because according to that the Second fleet of Homogenous Clarity is 100 ships strong. Elites also have to turn on their energy shields. Depictions vary in the Halo universe including once again Xytan jar Wattinree being 11'6.--[[User:Councilor 'Rumilee|Councilor 'Rumilee]] 19:11, 4 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
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The reason why i'm not adressing your point of books contradicting the games, is because this ship is from a trailer which is of an game that isn't even finished yet, this ship might get cut out from the game. | The reason why i'm not adressing your point of books contradicting the games, is because this ship is from a trailer which is of an game that isn't even finished yet, this ship might get cut out from the game. | ||
I never stated that that ship is the destroyer either, and read this:[http:// | I never stated that that ship is the destroyer either, and read this:[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halopedia:Canon_Policy] | ||
[[User:BlackSkalman]] | [[User:BlackSkalman]] | ||