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I think it's possible. We have stuffed bodies of theirs and [[wikipedia:moa|The Other Wiki]] even shows an entire intact Moa foot! As for infobox, we could always try to flesh it out more when the game comes out. It's an animal, it's probably not going to have much, but there's a lot of wildlife pages here that don't have infoboxes like that.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 22:18, August 2, 2010 (UTC)''
I think it's possible. We have stuffed bodies of theirs and [[wikipedia:moa|The Other Wiki]] even shows an entire intact Moa foot! As for infobox, we could always try to flesh it out more when the game comes out. It's an animal, it's probably not going to have much, but there's a lot of wildlife pages here that don't have infoboxes like that.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 22:18, August 2, 2010 (UTC)''


:I could go into detail about the Moa cloning, but suffice to say that without some extremely well preserved remains, and a better way of extracting and organising the time-decayed genome, we aren't going to see a ''pure'' Moa in our lifetime. It's possible, but I don't think that's what happened here - if you look at the birds, they have wings. Moa didn't. At all. They lost even their vestigial wings because they didn't need them. The "Moa" also look more like [[wikipedia:Phorusrhacidae|terror birds]] than Moa - I'd say that they were nicknamed by settlers for superficial similarities. Perhaps it indicates that New Zealand had a hand in the planet's settlement? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
:I could go into detail about the Moa cloning, but suffice to say that without some extremely well preserved remains, and a better way of extracting and organising the time-decayed genome, we aren't going to see a ''pure'' Moa in our lifetime. It's possible, but I don't think that's what happened here - if you look at the birds, they have wings. Moa didn't. At all. They lost even their vestigial wings because they didn't need them. The "Moa" also look more like [[wikipedia:Phorusrhacidae|terror birds]] than Moa - I'd say that they were nicknamed by settlers for superficial similarities. Perhaps it indicates that New Zealand had a hand in the planet's settlement? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)


That's true, similar with dinosaurs except there it would have to re-created '''PURELY''' from scratch! Looking over it now, I noticed that these Moa have sort of frill thing on their head, as well as a big "dino" tail(previously the computer wouldn't let me check out the pictures) which Earth Moa don't, but the addition of wings pretty much cements it. Still, it would be nice to see something like that in a future Halo game, I've read about scientists that managed to create Tasmanian dingo embryos.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 17:53, August 10, 2010 (UTC)''
That's true, similar with dinosaurs except there it would have to re-created '''PURELY''' from scratch! Looking over it now, I noticed that these Moa have sort of frill thing on their head, as well as a big "dino" tail(previously the computer wouldn't let me check out the pictures) which Earth Moa don't, but the addition of wings pretty much cements it. Still, it would be nice to see something like that in a future Halo game, I've read about scientists that managed to create Tasmanian dingo embryos.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 17:53, August 10, 2010 (UTC)''


:I believe the tail is just long, dragging feathers, though I'd need a closer look to be sure. And yet, the ruff around the head makes it look...distinct. As for creating an extinct animal - they'd need to hybridise it with something similar. There's nothing to give birth to it! Jurassic Park had dinosaurs hatching from synthetic eggs, but I don't think we're anywhere near that possibility yet. The idea is that you get a half-tasmanian tiger half-tasmanian devil animal born, hybridise ''that'' with the original DNA, hybridise the offspring ''again'', and eventually you'll get something that resembles a tasmanian tiger so much that you might as well call it one. It's been proposed for Emu/Moa, Mammoths/Elephants, and others. In the case of Mammoths, the Indian Elephant may be similar enough to carry it to term without hybridising, but I don't know, I'm not a geneticist. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:25, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
:I believe the tail is just long, dragging feathers, though I'd need a closer look to be sure. And yet, the ruff around the head makes it look...distinct. As for creating an extinct animal - they'd need to hybridise it with something similar. There's nothing to give birth to it! Jurassic Park had dinosaurs hatching from synthetic eggs, but I don't think we're anywhere near that possibility yet. The idea is that you get a half-tasmanian tiger half-tasmanian devil animal born, hybridise ''that'' with the original DNA, hybridise the offspring ''again'', and eventually you'll get something that resembles a tasmanian tiger so much that you might as well call it one. It's been proposed for Emu/Moa, Mammoths/Elephants, and others. In the case of Mammoths, the Indian Elephant may be similar enough to carry it to term without hybridising, but I don't know, I'm not a geneticist. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:25, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


::Didnt they actually do the hybrid mammoth/elephant, but it just died after a week or two?
::Didnt they actually do the hybrid mammoth/elephant, but it just died after a week or two?
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:::I check on Google and it seems it wasn't made... yet. And as for the others, for Tasmanian devils they used mice and for dinosaurs they plan to use chickens. The Moa's tail here, meanwhile does look reptilian, but that's just me.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''</span>]] 04:11, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::I check on Google and it seems it wasn't made... yet. And as for the others, for Tasmanian devils they used mice and for dinosaurs they plan to use chickens. The Moa's tail here, meanwhile does look reptilian, but that's just me.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''</span>]] 04:11, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


:::The Mammoth/Elephant hybrid was a joke by one of the American universities - supposedly, Soviet scientists had created a whole herd of hybrids, and used them to haul fallen trees off roads. Happy late April Fools! -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:21, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::The Mammoth/Elephant hybrid was a joke by one of the American universities - supposedly, Soviet scientists had created a whole herd of hybrids, and used them to haul fallen trees off roads. Happy late April Fools! -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:21, August 11, 2010 (UTC)




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:I've researched this. While it is true that the Moriori inhabited the Chatham Islands (part of New Zealand) and were largely killed off by the Maori, I cannot find any evidence to support any Moa actually living on the islands. Remember that the Moa could not fly and thus would not have been capable of colonisation. I can only find species recorded as living on the southern and northern main islands (mostly on "South Island"). Please provide a source confirming a species of Moa as inhabiting the Chatham Islands.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 13:31, 9 November 2010 (EST)
:I've researched this. While it is true that the Moriori inhabited the Chatham Islands (part of New Zealand) and were largely killed off by the Maori, I cannot find any evidence to support any Moa actually living on the islands. Remember that the Moa could not fly and thus would not have been capable of colonisation. I can only find species recorded as living on the southern and northern main islands (mostly on "South Island"). Please provide a source confirming a species of Moa as inhabiting the Chatham Islands.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 13:31, 9 November 2010 (EST)


::BAZWA, you're under a mistaken apprehension. That theory [[Wikipedia:Moriori#The_Moriori_in_New_Zealand|was discredited]] a while ago, and was originally put forth to promote racist light=better/dark=inferior racial stereotypes. As far as I can see, there's no evidence that the Moriori inhabited the mainland, or that there were Moa on the Chatham Islands. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:35, 9 November 2010 (EST)
::BAZWA, you're under a mistaken apprehension. That theory [[Wikipedia:Moriori#The_Moriori_in_New_Zealand|was discredited]] a while ago, and was originally put forth to promote racist light=better/dark=inferior racial stereotypes. As far as I can see, there's no evidence that the Moriori inhabited the mainland, or that there were Moa on the Chatham Islands. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:35, 9 November 2010 (EST)


==Addition of One or More Images, Please?==
==Addition of One or More Images, Please?==


I think this article could benefit with the addition of one or more images, especially one full-body portrait screenshot of a single Moa, and maybe, if necessary, a transparent cutout image as well. If someone could help out, that would be great. Or if you want me to do the transparent cutout, then I would be happy to do so, if you are able to provide a good screenshot. Thanks. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:04, 31 March 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330
I think this article could benefit with the addition of one or more images, especially one full-body portrait screenshot of a single Moa, and maybe, if necessary, a transparent cutout image as well. If someone could help out, that would be great. Or if you want me to do the transparent cutout, then I would be happy to do so, if you are able to provide a good screenshot. Thanks. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:04, 31 March 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330

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