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I added a diagram and label from Wikipedia about the different arms of the Milky Way. Its not perfect, but it adds to the article. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I added a diagram and label from Wikipedia about the different arms of the Milky Way. Its not perfect, but it adds to the article. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


Perhaps some more info on the Covenant's activity in the Milky Way? And I'm sure the section about war was ripped from the UNSC article, and should be cleared up. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 22:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps some more info on the Covenant's activity in the Milky Way? And I'm sure the section about war was ripped from the UNSC article, and should be cleared up. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 22:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


Added more information about the Covenant, and added a History summary section.'''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]'''''
Added more information about the Covenant, and added a History summary section.'''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]'''''
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Where was it stated that the UNSC controlled over 800 worlds? --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 12:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Where was it stated that the UNSC controlled over 800 worlds? --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 12:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:In the pre-Halo: Combat Evolved timeline released by microsoft. We treat it as canon until proven otherwise, given that other things mentioned in it, such as the Rainforest Wars and the history of colonisation, have also been corroborated by other sources - its available [http://www.halowars.com/GameInfo/Timeline.aspx here] for view. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:In the pre-Halo: Combat Evolved timeline released by microsoft. We treat it as canon until proven otherwise, given that other things mentioned in it, such as the Rainforest Wars and the history of colonisation, have also been corroborated by other sources - its available [http://www.halowars.com/GameInfo/Timeline.aspx here] for view. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


== The fan-made map ==
== The fan-made map ==
File:HaloStarChart.jpg|thumb|left|150px|It's not as pretty, but it's far more accurate than the new one.]]
 
[[File:Halo Galactic Map by Halcylon.jpg|thumb|left|150px|What is this nonsense?]]
[[Image:HaloStarChart.jpg|thumb|left|150px|It's not as pretty, but it's far more accurate than the new one.]]
Why is there a grossly inaccurate fan-made "map" on the page? I thought halopedia wasn't supposed to be the place for speculation. The map is so inaccurate it makes me cry.
Why is there a grossly inaccurate fan-made "map" on the page? I thought halopedia wasn't supposed to be the place for speculation. The map is so inaccurate it makes me cry.


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This new thing's artist just made up most of even the real systems' locations and then
This new thing's artist just made up most of even the real systems' locations and then


I especially like how he calls his knowledge "above average". This seems more like below average to me. Like many people, he doesn't realize how big the galaxy actually is, and how large the distances are. {{Unsigned|Jugus}}
I especially like how he calls his knowledge "above average". This seems more like below average to me. Like many people, he doesn't realize how big the galaxy actually is, and how large the distances are.
 


:I included it as an estimate, even noting that it was fan-made and not exact, but I agree, the latter is more accurate. If we want something "pretty", then I think [http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/index.html this site] and its charts would be a good base to start with. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I included it as an estimate, even noting that it was fan-made and not exact, but I agree, the latter is more accurate. If we want something "pretty", then I think [http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/index.html this site] and its charts would be a good base to start with. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


::Yeah. I know that one. It's one of the best galactic maps out there. But yeah. My point was, the new map isn't good 'cause it's misleading. More uninformed people can still take it as a fact, as seen in the DA page. And Halopedia's purpose is to present facts, isn't it. The problem in the map isn't only the assumed locations of the unknown systems. It's also the locations of basically all of the real-world systems, epsilon eridani, epsilon indi and procyon just as examples. --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 09:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah. I know that one. It's one of the best galactic maps out there. But yeah. My point was, the new map isn't good 'cause it's misleading. More uninformed people can still take it as a fact, as seen in the DA page. And Halopedia's purpose is to present facts, isn't it. The problem in the map isn't only the assumed locations of the unknown systems. It's also the locations of basically all of the real-world systems, epsilon eridani, epsilon indi and procyon just as examples. --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 09:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


:::I've removed it. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I've removed it. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


Just wondering if we could insert these two new images I discovered in cyberspace...
Just wondering if we could insert these two new images I discovered in cyberspace...
[[File:Halo Star Map V2.png|200px|left|thumb|A near-accurate star map based off the novels as stated by the author. See (dead link).]]
[[File:Halo Star Map V2.png|200px|left|thumb|A near-accurate star map based off the novels as stated by the author. See [http://igili.deviantart.com/art/Halo-Star-Map-No-speculation-125191679 link].]]
[[File:Halo Stellar Map V1.png|200px|left|thumb|A larger star map with more information on the Covenant. See [http://igili.deviantart.com/art/Halo-Stellar-Map-125134449 author's comments].]]


Toodles!- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 14:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Toodles!- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 14:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


:I don't have a problem with it, mainly because i'm the author. Use them if you will. Though i'd prefer to have only the non-speculative one on the page.--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 22:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't have a problem with it, mainly because i'm the author. Use them if you will. Though i'd prefer to have only the non-speculative one on the page.--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 22:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
{{Clear}}
== Regarding Covenant Territory ==
Do we have any references for this quote:
“The Covenant, as an empire, dominated much of the galaxy, though they would generally leave a world untouched unless it offered particular treasures, whether practical or religious.”
Or this one later in the article in the “Exploration”Tab:
“The Covenant dominated much of the galaxy but would leave a world untouched unless it had religious or practical importance.”
These statements are contradicted by all other sources that suggest that the Covenant was limited to the Orion Arm and did not span the entire galaxy.
The only footnote in the article for the first quote brings us to Pages 12-13 of Halo Warfleet which just gives us a picture of the Milky Way with this quote:
“The Milky Way galaxy is vast, with hundreds of billions of stars separated by incomprehensible distances and tangled slipspace routes. Limited resources and other distractions mean that only a few thousand star systems in the Orion Arm have been explored in detail by humanity and the Covenant. The state of the wider galaxy is a mystery except for small islands of knowledge recovered from Forerunner vaults or through special pioneer missions.”
This does not seem to suggest the Covenant controlled a significant portion of the galaxy, let alone anything outside the Orion Arm.
The second quote I was asking about just gives a footnote that has “Halo Waypoint, ??” As a source and just links to the Halopedia article about Halo Waypoint.
I can’t find any sources that support the idea that the Covenant controlled a significant portion of the galaxy. All sources seem to suggest they were limited to the Orion Arm. The article about the Covenant itself provides us with 2 sources to support them being limited to the Orion Arm: the Halo Wars game manual and the Halo 2 strategy guide. I can find no sources that support the Covenant controlling any territory outside of that. [[Special:Contributions/45.21.151.123|45.21.151.123]] 09:56, April 23, 2024 (EDT)
:Funnily enough, while this was being written, I have updated the "Waypoint ??" citation with the ''actual'' page from which the "''dominated much of the galaxy''" quote comes from: the [https://web.archive.org/web/20160125092022/https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/factions/covenant old Universe Article] on the empire. Relevant quote from that page below:
::''The Covenant, as an empire, dominated much of the galaxy, though they would generally leave a world untouched unless it offered particular treasures, whether practical or religious.''
:I can't say I'm a particular fan of this page (and personally, I'd be more like than not to discard its wording as erroneous when compared with most other sources - though I'd like to do some more thorough research first before committing to that). Either way, hopefully that helps.[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 10:01, April 23, 2024 (EDT)

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