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| Who voices Jul 'Mdama? Shouldn't this information be added to the article's trivia section? --[[User:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] ([[User talk:Xamikaze330|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|contribs]]) 11:57, 18 January 2013 (EST)Xamikaze330 | | Who voices Jul 'Mdama? Shouldn't this information be added to the article's trivia section? --[[User:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] ([[User talk:Xamikaze330|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|contribs]]) 11:57, 18 January 2013 (EST)Xamikaze330 |
| :Found the name, thank you Google. Mdama's voice actor is [[Wikipedia:Travis Willingham|Travis Willingham]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 12:05, 18 January 2013 (EST) | | :Found the name, thank you Google. Mdama's voice actor is [[Wikipedia:Travis Willingham|Travis Willingham]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 12:05, 18 January 2013 (EST) |
| ::You're kidding me! Jul shares a voice actor with [[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Roy "The Flame Alchemist" Mustang]]?!-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:12, 19 January 2013 (EST) | | ::You're kidding me! Jul shares a voice actor with [[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Roy "The Flame Alchemist" Mustang]]?!-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:12, 19 January 2013 (EST) |
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| Jul has orange eyes. What makes them seem blue is the light of the Librarian's shrine.[[User:The Master Builder|The Master Builder]] ([[User talk:The Master Builder|talk]]) 09:45, 23 August 2014 (EDT) | | Jul has orange eyes. What makes them seem blue is the light of the Librarian's shrine.[[User:The Master Builder|The Master Builder]] ([[User talk:The Master Builder|talk]]) 09:45, 23 August 2014 (EDT) |
| :What gets me is, why are his eyes "canonically" grey, if most of the depictions show him as being red-eyed?[[Special:Contributions/67.61.152.157|67.61.152.157]] 20:45, 27 December 2016 (EST)
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| == Jul's Arrival to Requem == | | == Jul's Arrival to Requem == |
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| It's stated Jul 'Mdama was at the [[Didact]]'s [[Cryptum]], but there was no Sangheili in blue Zealot Armor, plus with [[Gek 'Lhar]]'s statement about how he hadn't expected the Didact's Hand so soon, leads me to think that the sangheili who calls the didact's name when [[John 117]] releases him was just an unnamed Sangheili. [[User:Delta LXVII|Delta LXVII]] ([[User talk:Delta LXVII|talk]]) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (EST) | | It's stated Jul 'Mdama was at the [[Didact]]'s [[Cryptum]], but there was no Sangheili in blue Zealot Armor, plus with [[Gek 'Lhar]]'s statement about how he hadn't expected the Didact's Hand so soon, leads me to think that the sangheili who calls the didact's name when [[John 117]] releases him was just an unnamed Sangheili. [[User:Delta LXVII|Delta LXVII]] ([[User talk:Delta LXVII|talk]]) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (EST) |
| :343i stating that Jul was in ''Halo 4'' is likely just a retcon. After the game was released, they probably just decided that they wanted to have Jul witness the Didact's awakening. Additionally, he could have been off-screen. And there was six months between ''Halo 4'' and ''Spartan Ops'', so Jul's appearance on Requiem in Episode 3 may have been his first time on the planet since ''Halo 4''. Also Gek's comment could imply that he didn't expect Jul to arrive ''only'' at the Librarian's Rest "so soon". - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 16:28, 16 January 2015 (EST) | | :343i stating that Jul was in ''Halo 4'' is likely just a retcon. After the game was released, they probably just decided that they wanted to have Jul witness the Didact's awakening. Additionally, he could have been off-screen. And there was six months between ''Halo 4'' and ''Spartan Ops'', so Jul's appearance on Requiem in Episode 3 may have been his first time on the planet since ''Halo 4''. Also Gek's comment could imply that he didn't expect Jul to arrive ''only'' at the Librarian's Rest "so soon". - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 16:28, 16 January 2015 (EST) |
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| == Can I use this talk page to discus an important spoiler regarding Jul IF I use the spoiler tag ==
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| For example if I use this <nowiki>{{Hide|title=spoiler sample|insert spoiler here.}}</nowiki>
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| Can I post spoilers about Jul? I ask this because an official IGN and Gamespot playthrough of Halo 5 happened, and it reveals important information about Jul. Can I discuss it if it's spoiler tagged? Thanks [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 19:28, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
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| No, game isn't out yet. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 20:09, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :Right, but this isn't a leak. [[User:SamGall|Snark without a bark]] ([[User talk:SamGall|talk]]) 20:28, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::Right, but it is a spoiler, this game is still not out yet so it shouldn't be added. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 20:32, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::We only accept content from [[Halopedia:Spoiler policy|official parties]] (Microsoft and 343i only). Anything from another party is considered a spoiler and shall not be allowed on the wiki until the day of release. This discussion is over.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 00:13, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::::But these sources are authorized by 343 and Microsoft. The rules state that "Information officially released by 343 will still be accepted", and this is 100% an official release of information. [[User:Sgt_Rorschach|Sgt_Rorschach]] 15:36, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::::But it wasn't released by 343, seriously? [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 16:07, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :To some extent I can see the opposing argument. Yes, 343 didn't release this footage themselves, but it was clearly authorized by them, otherwise IGN would've been told to take down the video by now. But at the same time, the extent of the footage is so large and plot-changing that it's better to keep it under wraps for now for anybody who wants to experience the first level unspoiled. If 343 were to all of a sudden release the entire story online today, I'd still recommend keeping it off until the official release date, for those who actually want to play the game first. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:18, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::So, [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/locations/sunaion Sunaion's Waypoint article] spoils it as well... --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:24, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::I was about to post that aswell, I still believe we should wait to post it on this page, but okay to post it or avoid it on the Sunaion page. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 22:25, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::::I avoided mentioning it for now. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:26, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::::The spoiler has been removed in the original Waypoint article for now. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:56, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::::::Guess 343i didn't mean to release the spoiler at the moment. The mention of the reactivation of the Guardian was removed too. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:58, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
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| == Jul's death date ==
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| The page has no source for his death date, and near as I can tell, there is no source for the mission to Kamchatka. Never mind that October 4th has some serious problems with established canon. {{Unsigned|Toa Freak}}
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| :Good question. I'm pretty sure that the date was never established and it's not shown in any cutscenes on the same day. I'll make the necessary amends (I'm presuming the mission to Kamchatka still takes place in October). --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 15:50, 10 November 2015 (EST)
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| ::Yeah, I would assume it was still in October, hell, right around or just before Blue Team's mission (which was sure right before Meridian). [[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 16:06, 10 November 2015 (EST)
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| :::It does seem like Osiris begins their mission to Meridian basically the same day or the next after Kamchatka (and I now see the thread for this on reddit lol). --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 16:08, 10 November 2015 (EST)
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| ::::That's the feeling I got when playing. And yeah, Reddit brought me here. [[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 17:51, 10 November 2015 (EST)
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| == Jul leaving the Covenant during the Great Schism. ==
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| It's safe to say that Jul left the Covenant during the Great Schism. Jul is an Elite, as such he was kicked out of the Covenant during the Great Schism like the rest of his species. Even if he wanted to stay, Truth's Brutes would have killed him as ordered. Halopedia even says
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| * "These events led the entire Sangheili species to secede from the Covenant" http://www.halopedia.org/Sangheili#The_Great_Schism
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| * "High Prophet of Truth had ordered the genocide of the entire Sangheili race." http://www.halopedia.org/Sangheili
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| Halo Waypoint even says
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| * "The resulting conflict would be called the Great Schism, and it would divide the Covenant into two, ultimately forcing the Sangheili out (of the Covenant)." https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/species/jiralhanae
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| Furthermore, Jul dropped the "ee" suffix from his name, symbolising that he left the Covenant during the Great Schism.
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| * "Jul ‘Mdamaee served as the shipmaster of the ORS Heavy Cruiser Blight of the Profane " https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/canon-fodder-reqlamation-begins
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| It is clear that like all Covenant Elites, he left the Covenant. And even if he wanted to stay, he literally couldn't as Truth's order would have him killed.
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| [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 23:05, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
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| :I am talking about him being in charge of the ship at the end of the war, while yes it is safe to assume it, there is no reason to actually state that he was removed from the Covenant since we have no information of him during the schism (beginning), if we added this we might as well (by we I mean you) add it to every single Sangheili page. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 02:00, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
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| ::The facts of the universe tell us that it would have been impossible for him to stay with Truth ordering the genocide of the Elites, and Jul's removal of the "ee" suffix confirm it. Facts should trump opinions. However, because this isn't really that a big deal (and the lack of including it wouldn't imply the opposite right?), it's not worth edit warring over, I'll let you win this one.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 04:03, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
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| :::1) He was never mentioned during the Schism which means we do not mention it, easy. 2) This is a wiki, not a contest, no one wins or loses. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 16:48, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
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