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==Why Not the 70mm chin gun?==
==Why Not the 70mm chin gun?==
Not a 70mm chain gun?
[[File:Gallery6.jpg|thumb|250px|Not a 70mm chain gun?]]
Is there anyone who can explain why the in game pelican does not have a 70mm chin gun? In game the chin gun appears to be the same weapon, if not smaller caliber than the Warthog's chain gun. But it obviously is not a 70mm cannon - [[User:Blehm98|Blehm98]] 21 October 2006
Is there anyone who can explain why the in game pelican does not have a 70mm chin gun? In game the chin gun appears to be the same weapon, if not smaller caliber than the Warthog's chain gun. But it obviously is not a 70mm cannon - [[User:Blehm98|Blehm98]] 21 October 2006
:The in game gun is 2D and accessable by a glitch, so I think it just wasn't ready yet. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 01:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
:The in game gun is 2D and accessable by a glitch, so I think it just wasn't ready yet. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 01:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
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*I've read the first chapter of Ghosts of Onyx, and it says a Pelican has TWO 70mm chainguns. perhaps an older model? or a typo? -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 21:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
*I've read the first chapter of Ghosts of Onyx, and it says a Pelican has TWO 70mm chainguns. perhaps an older model? or a typo? -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 21:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


*I went back and studied Halo 2. Look at any pelican with a weapon (Outskirts, Metropolis, Delta Halo or Regret are ideal) and examine the chaingun under its nose. Now go to the AIE-468H Heavy Machinegun that we used in the Beta. Look familiar? [[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]</sub> 02:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
*I went back and studied Halo 2. Look at any pelican with a weapon (Outskirts, Metropolis, Delta Halo or Regret are ideal) and examine the chaingun under its nose. Now go to the AIE-468H Heavy Machinegun that we used in the Beta. Look familiar? [[File:HalfJaw03.jpg|30px]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]</sub> 02:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


Does anybody else think that a 70mm gun is way to big to be the gun mounted under the pelican? The one on the pelican is about the same size as the chaingun on a warthog but only 1 barrel. Think about it in world war 2 the U.S. had a 70mm gun but it was mounted on a '''TANK''' and was used as an '''Anti-tank''' gun. I dont think that such a large gun would be used against infantry. just my opinion. [[User:EliteSpartan|EliteSpartan]] 6:46 August 9 2007
Does anybody else think that a 70mm gun is way to big to be the gun mounted under the pelican? The one on the pelican is about the same size as the chaingun on a warthog but only 1 barrel. Think about it in world war 2 the U.S. had a 70mm gun but it was mounted on a '''TANK''' and was used as an '''Anti-tank''' gun. I dont think that such a large gun would be used against infantry. just my opinion. [[User:EliteSpartan|EliteSpartan]] 6:46 August 9 2007
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I looked at the Halo 2 Pelican gun and I couldn't see ANY chaingun simaler to the one from halo 3.--[[User:A Grunts Savior|The Demonic Idiot]] 02:28, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I looked at the Halo 2 Pelican gun and I couldn't see ANY chaingun simaler to the one from halo 3.--[[User:A Grunts Savior|The Demonic Idiot]] 02:28, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


:It should be on the chin, upside down. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_HOT_GATES 'Morhek]</font></i></b> 08:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:It should be on the chin, upside down. --<b>[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_HOT_GATES 'Morhek]</font></i></b> 08:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


==Please Explain the opening hatch==
==Please Explain the opening hatch==
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==Heavy Pelican==
==Heavy Pelican==
[[File:1010145e6125765a36.jpg|thumb|200px|MD- 505GA "ANGRY" PELICAN]]
*Heres a picture of a Heavy Pelican (Don't know if its a fake or not, I'm posting just in case) -- [[User:Helard|Helard]] 06:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
*Heres a picture of a Heavy Pelican (Don't know if its a fake or not, I'm posting just in case) -- [[User:Helard|Helard]] 06:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:*Image is a fake fan created image from this [http://carnage.bungie.org/rogerwilco/index.htm Fan Image Photo Gallery] -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 08:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:*Image is a fake fan created image from this [http://carnage.bungie.org/rogerwilco/index.htm Fan Image Photo Gallery] -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 08:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
{{Clear}}
{{Clear}}
== M-779 Troop Bay Extension ==
== M-779 Troop Bay Extension ==


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:::::I think the whole thing is just inconsistent. Just a small mistake, like many others of its kind, in the Halo universe. My point still stands though, at least I think so. Anyway, I like nitpicking a little cause my life is boring. --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 02:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think the whole thing is just inconsistent. Just a small mistake, like many others of its kind, in the Halo universe. My point still stands though, at least I think so. Anyway, I like nitpicking a little cause my life is boring. --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 02:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


:Erm, you forgotten they are in space. Also, a pelican would be able to recover from free fall, but that one did not. I suspect it is because of the spartans.-- [[User:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">never ending-summer</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">My personal COM chanel</font>]]</sup> 10:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
:Erm, you forgotten they are in space. Also, a pelican would be able to recover from free fall, but that one did not. I suspect it is because of the spartans.--[[File:Hunter large.jpg|35px]] [[User:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">never ending-summer</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">My personal COM chanel</font>]]</sup> 10:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


== Propulsion ==
== Propulsion ==
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You know, on the Halo 3 website, they call the Pelican a D77H-TCI Pelican.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 19:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
You know, on the Halo 3 website, they call the Pelican a D77H-TCI Pelican.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 19:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


:A reference to an upgraded version perhaps? -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 03:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
:A reference to an upgraded version perhaps? -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] [[File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 03:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


Perhaps.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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When did it get an "I" on it? or the "H" for that matter. Was I just not paying attention? --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 17:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
When did it get an "I" on it? or the "H" for that matter. Was I just not paying attention? --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 17:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


Stephen Loftus says it should be "D77-TC," and I usually go with what he says... sources? '''[[halowikia:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[halowikia:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 05:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Stephen Loftus says it should be "D77-TC," and I usually go with what he says... sources? '''[[w:c:halo:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[w:c:halo:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 05:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


http://halo3.com Halo3.com classifies it as the D77H-TCI. Then again, these are the people who brought us the so-called "Halo 3 M6D," so take it with a grain of salt. [[User:Specops306|Kora &#39;Morhekee]] 02:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
http://halo3.com Halo3.com classifies it as the D77H-TCI. Then again, these are the people who brought us the so-called "Halo 3 M6D," so take it with a grain of salt. [[User:Specops306|Kora &#39;Morhekee]] 02:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
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It's probably a new production model of the Pelican, but considering the state of Earth at the end of Halo 2, raises the question of where are these new Pelicans and weapons being made. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 00:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
It's probably a new production model of the Pelican, but considering the state of Earth at the end of Halo 2, raises the question of where are these new Pelicans and weapons being made. --[[User:Kregano|Kregano]] 00:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


Earth isn't the ''last'' UNSC planet, its just the last major stronghold. There are plenty of other places where ordinance could be made. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halopedian.com/User:ED/Gaming <font color="000000">(gaming)</font>]</sup></b> 04:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Earth isn't the ''last'' UNSC planet, its just the last major stronghold. There are plenty of other places where ordinance could be made. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User:ED/Gaming <font color="000000">(gaming)</font>]</sup></b> 04:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


  One being Mars, as 'Arms Race' showed us. [[User:Poison headcrab|Poison headcrab]] 02:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
  One being Mars, as 'Arms Race' showed us. [[User:Poison headcrab|Poison headcrab]] 02:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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== im giving you guys a screenshot i took ==
== im giving you guys a screenshot i took ==


[[File:Pelican_in_flight.png]]
p.s. im new to this
p.s. im new to this


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Apparently first generation pelicans were actually modified Slave I's.
Apparently first generation pelicans were actually modified Slave I's.
Neat. But how do you know it wasn't trying to pull out of a dive?--[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 20:31, 24 March 2011 (EDT)


==Pelican Speed==
==Pelican Speed==
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how much can this thing hold in the halo:ce stragity guide it says that it can hold up to 30 people but it only holds 10 usually cause theres 10 seates is it possable that 20 of then stand cause im comfused please help me
how much can this thing hold in the halo:ce stragity guide it says that it can hold up to 30 people but it only holds 10 usually cause theres 10 seates is it possable that 20 of then stand cause im comfused please help me


The article actually says. Ten in a normal craft, plus more in an altered Pelican with a troop-bay extension - but they don't appear in the game. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
The article actually says. Ten in a normal craft, plus more in an altered Pelican with a troop-bay extension - but they don't appear in the game. [[File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)




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Okay, with all due respect to the author's of this page, where did the stats on the pelican come from (things like the consumables, mass, lifting capacity, drives, etc)? They read like fanwank to me. Is there any backing of Bungie or MS of these numbers, a source of some kind (or someone with engineering experience with worked out calculations?) Regards, [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 05:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Okay, with all due respect to the author's of this page, where did the stats on the pelican come from (things like the consumables, mass, lifting capacity, drives, etc)? They read like fanwank to me. Is there any backing of Bungie or MS of these numbers, a source of some kind (or someone with engineering experience with worked out calculations?) Regards, [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 05:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


:Most of the info is taken from Halo.Bungie.org :)--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 05:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:Most of the info is taken from Halo.Bungie.org :)--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 05:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


::Could you please point me to a link for the specs then please? I've searched through HBO, searched official Bungie/Microsoft websites, etc, and haven't come across them. General searches on the internet come up with similar figures, but they all come from fan-run websites without references. Thanks in advance. Regards, [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 07:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::Could you please point me to a link for the specs then please? I've searched through HBO, searched official Bungie/Microsoft websites, etc, and haven't come across them. General searches on the internet come up with similar figures, but they all come from fan-run websites without references. Thanks in advance. Regards, [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 07:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Separate Articles? ==
== Separate Articles? ==


What about making two separate articles, one for the general Pelican, this one, and a second for the D77H-TCI of Halo 3? '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 02:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
What about making two separate articles, one for the general Pelican, this one, and a second for the D77H-TCI of Halo 3? '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 02:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


:Um, no, because they are too similar to have separate articles. And also, it's the same "type" of pelican, not say one which carries Elephants or something. It does ''not'' need 2 articles.
:Um, no, because they are too similar to have separate articles. And also, it's the same "type" of pelican, not say one which carries Elephants or something. It does ''not'' need 2 articles.


::Really? The fact that the older D77-TC Pelican has been replaced by the newer D77H-TCI Pelican, the major role they play in Halo 3, and the numerous differences would suggest otherwise. '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 03:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Really? The fact that the older D77-TC Pelican has been replaced by the newer D77H-TCI Pelican, the major role they play in Halo 3, and the numerous differences would suggest otherwise. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 03:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


== Landfall Pelicans ==
== Landfall Pelicans ==


If you'll notice in the abolve image, about eight pelicans can be seen under construction. The back four are almost unrecognizable, but I think I can read the tags on the front four: O5 (Oscar 5) on the left, O6 (Oscar 6) In the front, O8 (Oscar 8) on the right, and O9 (Oscar 9) in the back. Unless anyone has any objections or thinks this is incorrect, I will add them to the list of identified Pelicans. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]]</b> 21:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[[File:Landfall Pelicans.jpg|1000px]]
 
If you'll notice in the abolve image, about eight pelicans can be seen under construction. The back four are almost unrecognizable, but I think I can read the tags on the front four: O5 (Oscar 5) on the left, O6 (Oscar 6) In the front, O8 (Oscar 8) on the right, and O9 (Oscar 9) in the back. Unless anyone has any objections or thinks this is incorrect, I will add them to the list of identified Pelicans. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]][[File:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 21:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


I know this is a couple years old by now, but the Pelicans in the picture could also be 06, 05, and so on and so forth. With the font of the identification numbers, I think it is hard to tell between a 0, and an 'O'. I believe, however, that they ID numbers are simply 06 and so on, because of the corresponding IDs on the floor. Perhaps the factory putting these dropships together labels them that way so they know where parts are supposed to go, which i think would not be too unbelievable, as the Pelicans would most likely recieve their final ID number after rolling off the factory floor and heading out to move to their designated unit/attendant starship.[[User talk:SpartaWolf|SpartaWolf]] 06:12, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
I know this is a couple years old by now, but the Pelicans in the picture could also be 06, 05, and so on and so forth. With the font of the identification numbers, I think it is hard to tell between a 0, and an 'O'. I believe, however, that they ID numbers are simply 06 and so on, because of the corresponding IDs on the floor. Perhaps the factory putting these dropships together labels them that way so they know where parts are supposed to go, which i think would not be too unbelievable, as the Pelicans would most likely recieve their final ID number after rolling off the factory floor and heading out to move to their designated unit/attendant starship.[[User talk:SpartaWolf|SpartaWolf]] 06:12, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
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== Image ==
== Image ==


If you look at this image, supposedly a battle scene from the Interplanetary War, it has Pelicans in it. Does that mean that Pelicans have been in service since the 2100's? [[User:Stryker117|<span style="color:DarkBlue"><b>Stryker</b></span>]][[User talk:Stryker117|<span style="color:DarkBlue"><b>117</b></span>]] 03:46, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
[[File:Interplanetary War from Halo Wars.jpg]]
 
If you look at this image, supposedly a battle scene from the Interplanetary War, it has Pelicans in it. Does that mean that Pelicans have been in service since the 2100's? [[File:Haloforgheisonvv4.gif|35px]] [[User:Stryker117|<span style="color:DarkBlue"><b>Stryker</b></span>]][[User talk:Stryker117|<span style="color:DarkBlue"><b>117</b></span>]][[File:UNSCoH Dingo without letters.PNG|30px]] 03:46, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


I don't think so. I think Ensemble just put a piece of concept art in the wrong area. Notice also that the Pelicans are being destroyed by ''[[lasers]]''? I don't think the Frieden or Koslovics would use such advanced weaponry if the UNSC centuries later don't. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 04:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't think so. I think Ensemble just put a piece of concept art in the wrong area. Notice also that the Pelicans are being destroyed by ''[[lasers]]''? I don't think the Frieden or Koslovics would use such advanced weaponry if the UNSC centuries later don't. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 04:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
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::The tilt-rotor theory here...I forgot about the Harrier, and that definitely seems to be a better fit than the Osprey. I brought the Osprey up, however, because its engines are directly installed in the nacelles, just like the Pelican, and by varying the direction of the nacelles it can maneuver. The Pelican obviously relies heavily on this principle, more so than the Osprey, so I would say the connection still stands. The Harrier uses its nozzles to take off vertically and uses them somewhat to maneuver, but also relies on control surfaces as its primary means of maneuvering. Additionally, its engine is mounted internally as is the case on most other aircraft. The Harrier also generates its lift from its wings just like a regular aircraft. Yes, it initially uses its powerplant to get up to speed, but once it gets up to a certain speed, the wings generate enough lift to support it, and it no longer needs to rely solely on its powerplant to keep it up. I definitely agree that in the final theory/explanation, it should mention the Harrier's method of maneuvering. [User:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">orionf22</span>]] ([[User talk:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">"TALK PAGE"</span>]]) 22:01, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
::The tilt-rotor theory here...I forgot about the Harrier, and that definitely seems to be a better fit than the Osprey. I brought the Osprey up, however, because its engines are directly installed in the nacelles, just like the Pelican, and by varying the direction of the nacelles it can maneuver. The Pelican obviously relies heavily on this principle, more so than the Osprey, so I would say the connection still stands. The Harrier uses its nozzles to take off vertically and uses them somewhat to maneuver, but also relies on control surfaces as its primary means of maneuvering. Additionally, its engine is mounted internally as is the case on most other aircraft. The Harrier also generates its lift from its wings just like a regular aircraft. Yes, it initially uses its powerplant to get up to speed, but once it gets up to a certain speed, the wings generate enough lift to support it, and it no longer needs to rely solely on its powerplant to keep it up. I definitely agree that in the final theory/explanation, it should mention the Harrier's method of maneuvering. [User:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">orionf22</span>]] ([[User talk:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">"TALK PAGE"</span>]]) 22:01, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
{{Quote|''Current flight theories''|What you said above}}
{{Quote|''Current flight theories''|What you said above}}
:::The problem with your statement above is ''Current flight theories''. The Pelican was developed in the future, thus scientists in that timeline might have solved the problem with short, stubby wings and powerful propulsion systems. Our current knowledge of the world is constantly changing and expanding as we progress through time, thus we can say it is possible for the Pelican to achieve such feat with such propulsion system in the future. All we can do for now is speculate with concrete support/evidence... I would suggest getting someone with a degree in aerodynamics to explain it for us and show whether it's feasible. As for now, just hold off with the speculations. We've came into some trouble in the past with these speculations in articles and it resulted badly. So, please hold off these speculations. If you insist, please provide concrete proof/evidence to support it and get someone with an official degree to explain it to us.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
:::The problem with your statement above is ''Current flight theories''. The Pelican was developed in the future, thus scientists in that timeline might have solved the problem with short, stubby wings and powerful propulsion systems. Our current knowledge of the world is constantly changing and expanding as we progress through time, thus we can say it is possible for the Pelican to achieve such feat with such propulsion system in the future. All we can do for now is speculate with concrete support/evidence... I would suggest getting someone with a degree in aerodynamics to explain it for us and show whether it's feasible. As for now, just hold off with the speculations. We've came into some trouble in the past with these speculations in articles and it resulted badly. So, please hold off these speculations. If you insist, please provide concrete proof/evidence to support it and get someone with an official degree to explain it to us.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
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==Troop Deployment Pod==
==Troop Deployment Pod==


Am I really the ONLY person here who noticed this fanon addition to the Pelican pages? There is NO mention of any extended Pelican pod in any of the books/comics or the games. The article ([http://halopedian.com/Troop_Deployment_Pod_%28Pelican%29 Troop Deployment Pod]) has no actual sources (check yourself, there is no mention of it anywhere), and the picture shown is apparently FAN ART. What sort of oversight is this?
Am I really the ONLY person here who noticed this fanon addition to the Pelican pages? There is NO mention of any extended Pelican pod in any of the books/comics or the games. The article ([http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Troop_Deployment_Pod_%28Pelican%29 Troop Deployment Pod]) has no actual sources (check yourself, there is no mention of it anywhere), and the picture shown is apparently FAN ART. What sort of oversight is this?


== Renaming ==
== Renaming ==


I think it's time we move it back to ''D77-TC Pelican'''. D is the classification, as is the "TC" - you don't label an Apache "Attach Helicopter 66," you just call it "AH-66 Apache." More relevant to Halo, we con't call the "[[UH-144 Falcon]]" the "Utility Helicopter 144" -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
I think it's time we move it back to ''D77-TC Pelican'''. D is the classification, as is the "TC" - you don't label an Apache "Attach Helicopter 66," you just call it "AH-66 Apache." More relevant to Halo, we con't call the "[[UH-144 Falcon]]" the "Utility Helicopter 144" -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


===Support===
===Support===
#{{Support}}-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}}-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} However, Covenant titles stay the same. - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} However, Covenant titles stay the same. - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} Good reasoning. --'''<span style="font-family: Tahoma; color: MidnightBlue;"> // [[User:Stryker117|<font color="MidnightBlue">ŝтŕγκęŕ</font>]]</span>''' <small>[ [[User talk:Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">COM</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/M</font>]] | [[Special:Editcount/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/S</font>]] ]</small>
#{{Support}} Good reasoning. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|35px]]'''<span style="font-family: Tahoma; color: MidnightBlue;"> // [[User:Stryker117|<font color="MidnightBlue">ŝтŕγκęŕ</font>]]</span>''' <small>[ [[User talk:Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">COM</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/M</font>]] | [[Special:Editcount/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/S</font>]] ]</small>
#{{Support}} Yeah. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 19:25, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} Yeah. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 19:25, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} Good point. --[[User:Tiku-Orava|<span style="color:blue">'''Tiku-Orava'''</span>]] 10:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} Good point. --[[User:Tiku-Orava|<span style="color:blue">'''Tiku-Orava'''</span>]] 10:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} --<tt><sup><font color="#7BA05B">[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]</font></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|<font color="#4B5320"><font size="5">53</font></font>]]</tt> 11:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} --<tt><sup><font color="#7BA05B">[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]</font></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|<font color="#4B5320"><font size="5">53</font></font>]]</tt>[[File:OS53Seal.png|34px]] 11:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} Makes sense. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:22, 22 November 2010 (EST)
#{{Support}} Makes sense. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:22, 22 November 2010 (EST)


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2. {{Oppose}} I oppose the renaming just because of consistency. Specops306 may have a point, but you may not believe it, but AH-64 Apache really meams 'Attack Helicopter-64''. Apache is just a nickname given to it.--[[Special:Contributions/50.15.255.214|50.15.255.214]] 21:10, 14 November 2010 (EST)
2. {{Oppose}} I oppose the renaming just because of consistency. Specops306 may have a point, but you may not believe it, but AH-64 Apache really meams 'Attack Helicopter-64''. Apache is just a nickname given to it.--[[Special:Contributions/50.15.255.214|50.15.255.214]] 21:10, 14 November 2010 (EST)
:That isn't a nickname, that's the ''designation''. That is what the designation ''means'', not the designation itself. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:31, 14 November 2010 (EST)
:That isn't a nickname, that's the ''designation''. That is what the designation ''means'', not the designation itself. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:31, 14 November 2010 (EST)


===Comments===
===Comments===
I don't know why we keep the "neutral" section, if we also keep the "comments" section as well. If people aren't committed to a yes or no, then why do they still get a vote? Oh, and did you have a reason for your opposition SD? I'd just like to know. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
I don't know why we keep the "neutral" section, if we also keep the "comments" section as well. If people aren't committed to a yes or no, then why do they still get a vote? Oh, and did you have a reason for your opposition SD? I'd just like to know. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


:Neutral is generally more for stating why they remain out of the vote. Comments is more to ask questions about the position itself. As for me, I don't know enough on the subject in question to say so myself. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:41, 15 November 2010 (EST)
:Neutral is generally more for stating why they remain out of the vote. Comments is more to ask questions about the position itself. As for me, I don't know enough on the subject in question to say so myself. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:41, 15 November 2010 (EST)
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Does this image look good? It's called Pelican, with a description that says, "It crashed." [http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Default.aspx?player=BlahMarrow] Sorry for not being able to show the image right here, but I ''still'' haven't figured it out.--[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 18:06, 24 March 2011 (EDT)
Does this image look good? It's called Pelican, with a description that says, "It crashed." [http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Default.aspx?player=BlahMarrow] Sorry for not being able to show the image right here, but I ''still'' haven't figured it out.--[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 18:06, 24 March 2011 (EDT)
:[[Special:Upload]] (Please write in the name, yourself. We don't want to see "Halo-Reach-049392958598294857285759382.jpg").-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 18:08, 24 March 2011 (EDT)
The rookie has tried to do it.--[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 20:20, 24 March 2011 (EDT)
if it's 100 by 76 feet surley it can carry more then one tank[[User talk:Butthead4|Butthead4]] 20:02, 30 March 2011 (EDT)
:No. You included the cockpit in your measurments along with the large aft. section that is just for the engines - there's no flight pod there to contain a tank.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 20:30, 30 March 2011 (EDT)
Wait, what's that got to do with the picture?--[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 18:42, 4 April 2011 (EDT)
:Added to article.— <span style="font-size:120%; font-family:Palatino Linotype; font-style:italic;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 19:06, 4 April 2011 (EDT)
10-4 thank you--[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 12:17, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
== Halo 2 Anniversary Pelicans mistake ==
In the pre-rendered cutscenes the cockpit have the pilot and copilot side by side, however in gameplay the cockpits have the pilot in front and the copilot behind as has been since H3 pelicans. This is most noticable with crashed pelican on the beach [[User:VARGR|VARGR]] ([[User talk:VARGR|talk]]) 14:23, 11 December 2014 (EST)
:I wouldn't call it a mistake. The cutscene models are much higher quality models than the ones used in the game. These are now pre-rendered custscenes and don't use in-game assets. The Warthogs are also better resolution models (note how the towhook bobs around when its driving) as are the characters. Look at Sgt. Johnson in the cutscene versus the game. The cutscene Pelicans are physically different model files from the ones we encounter during gameplay. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 19:09, 11 December 2014 (EST)

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