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BR55HB SR, obviously by its designation, is just a variation of the standard BR55. So therefore it should be included in the BR55 article rather then as a seperate article. As I have said before, the M16A2 doesnt get its own article in the normal Wikipedia, so why should the BR55HB SR get a seperate article from the BR55 page? [[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 02:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC) | BR55HB SR, obviously by its designation, is just a variation of the standard BR55. So therefore it should be included in the BR55 article rather then as a seperate article. As I have said before, the M16A2 doesnt get its own article in the normal Wikipedia, so why should the BR55HB SR get a seperate article from the BR55 page? [[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 02:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
*Like I said before, the MA5C is different from the MA5B, the M6C is different from the M6D, and the BR55HB SR is different from the BR55. '''([[User:CommanderTony|CommanderTony]])''' 7/31/2007 | **Like I said before, the MA5C is different from the MA5B, the M6C is different from the M6D, and the BR55HB SR is different from the BR55. '''([[User:CommanderTony|CommanderTony]])''' 7/31/2007 | ||
==Halo: First Strike== | ==Halo: First Strike== | ||
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==Pre-Halo 2 Information== | ==Pre-Halo 2 Information== | ||
I've has this lingering thought in the back of my mind and now I've finally got a place to ask about it! Is it just me, or did the pre-Halo 2 reports state the battle rifle would be able to shoot a single bullet ''or'' a three-shot burst? Or am I crazy? lol. Please eleviate my concerns about my mental health on my talk page, Thanks :) -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] | I've has this lingering thought in the back of my mind and now I've finally got a place to ask about it! Is it just me, or did the pre-Halo 2 reports state the battle rifle would be able to shoot a single bullet ''or'' a three-shot burst? Or am I crazy? lol. Please eleviate my concerns about my mental health on my talk page, Thanks :) -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 14:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
:I think it was fixed in semi-auto at first, then changed to burst when not zoomed and shoot semi-automatic when zoomed. Not sure, though. -[[User:AK|AK]] 18:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC) | :I think it was fixed in semi-auto at first, then changed to burst when not zoomed and shoot semi-automatic when zoomed. Not sure, though. -[[User:AK|AK]] 18:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
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==Weapon Design== | ==Weapon Design== | ||
just realized, isn't the BR55 a bullpop? should that be added in? | just realized, isn't the BR55 a bullpop? should that be added in? | ||
==Ammo Switch== | ==Ammo Switch== | ||
even if it isn't something you can do in the games unless you mod, would it be possible to switch the battle rifles ammo to that of the M6D, or at least giving the BR55 rounds HE power? thanks, im doing a fan-fic and trying to keep it real to a point to the cannon story, so any replies would really help. [[User:SpecOps ODST|SpecOps ODST]] 18:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC) | even if it isn't something you can do in the games unless you mod, would it be possible to switch the battle rifles ammo to that of the M6D, or at least giving the BR55 rounds HE power? thanks, im doing a fan-fic and trying to keep it real to a point to the cannon story, so any replies would really help. [[User:SpecOps ODST|SpecOps ODST]] 18:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
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would any one happen to know how you can increase a BR55's power? | would any one happen to know how you can increase a BR55's power? | ||
:It would not be possible to use the M6D's ammo in the BR55. Quite apart from the fact that the rounds are too big to fit through the barrel, the clip wouldn't fit in the gun. If you want a BR that fires HE rounds, just make up a 9.5x40mm FMJ-HE as opposed to the 9.5x40mm FMJ-SAP. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 22:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | :It would not be possible to use the M6D's ammo in the BR55. Quite apart from the fact that the rounds are too big to fit through the barrel, the clip wouldn't fit in the gun. If you want a BR that fires HE rounds, just make up a 9.5x40mm FMJ-HE as opposed to the 9.5x40mm FMJ-SAP. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 22:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Or better yet magnumized FMJ SAPHE like the pistol [[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC) | Or better yet magnumized FMJ SAPHE like the pistol [[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Rtas Vadumee | Rtas Vadumee | ||
A lot of assumptions are being made in the above commentary about the 9.5mm x 40 cartrage; Has anyone actully seen specs for it? Does the 40 even stand for the case length? That number could be anything from the birthday of the designer to the powder charge. Is the 9.5mm x 40 a bottle neck cartrage? If the 9.5 was a straight wall cartrage with a case diameter of say 10mm it would be aprox 2 mm smaller than the 7.62 Nato cartrage. the bullet diameter and case size are rarely related; the same bullet can be loaded in the 30 M1 carbine and the 300 Weatherby Magnum and the 7.62 Nato all with dramaticly different case sizes and balistic performance. And who really knows by the 25th century magazines could easily be triple stacked and not require folded springs or thick followers to feed reliably and be mass produced with much greater capacity. Regardless the MA5B mag holds 60 and the BR55 36. | A lot of assumptions are being made in the above commentary about the 9.5mm x 40 cartrage; Has anyone actully seen specs for it? Does the 40 even stand for the case length? That number could be anything from the birthday of the designer to the powder charge. Is the 9.5mm x 40 a bottle neck cartrage? If the 9.5 was a straight wall cartrage with a case diameter of say 10mm it would be aprox 2 mm smaller than the 7.62 Nato cartrage. the bullet diameter and case size are rarely related; the same bullet can be loaded in the 30 M1 carbine and the 300 Weatherby Magnum and the 7.62 Nato all with dramaticly different case sizes and balistic performance. And who really knows by the 25th century magazines could easily be triple stacked and not require folded springs or thick followers to feed reliably and be mass produced with much greater capacity. Regardless the MA5B mag holds 60 and the BR55 36. | ||
[[User:Dagger133|Dagger133]] 08:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC) | [[User:Dagger133|Dagger133]] 08:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Given that all other mm measurements for bullets in the haloverse have followed standard naming conventions, it's safe to say that 9.5 x 40 mm means what it says. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 22:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | :Given that all other mm measurements for bullets in the haloverse have followed standard naming conventions, it's safe to say that 9.5 x 40 mm means what it says. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 22:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
The article dosn't say 9.5x40 mm it says 9.5mmx40 so it dosn't say what you assume. There are no, real, standard naming conventions ; and there are several non mm x mm lables in the US forces history, 38 special comes to mind as well as the 30-40 Krag and the good old 45 Auto somtimes also called the 45ACP. | The article dosn't say 9.5x40 mm it says 9.5mmx40 so it dosn't say what you assume. There are no, real, standard naming conventions ; and there are several non mm x mm lables in the US forces history, 38 special comes to mind as well as the 30-40 Krag and the good old 45 Auto somtimes also called the 45ACP. | ||
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hello my name is robrob. i have been shooting guns since i was 8. wile i agree that the .30 cal or 7.62 would be hard to control in a automatic gun there are other things to consider such as stopping power. for example i believe that the shields of elites work as so. speed of projectile X mass of projectile = amount of energy needed to deflect round. in this case the larger more powerful rounds would be more effective against shielded targets. this can be seen in space battles when the super MAC gus can propel a massive round that is fired at neer light speed, perices covie ships like tin foil. on the other hand light rounds from small ships bounce off. | hello my name is robrob. i have been shooting guns since i was 8. wile i agree that the .30 cal or 7.62 would be hard to control in a automatic gun there are other things to consider such as stopping power. for example i believe that the shields of elites work as so. speed of projectile X mass of projectile = amount of energy needed to deflect round. in this case the larger more powerful rounds would be more effective against shielded targets. this can be seen in space battles when the super MAC gus can propel a massive round that is fired at neer light speed, perices covie ships like tin foil. on the other hand light rounds from small ships bounce off. | ||
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robrob | robrob | ||
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- Tenth | - Tenth | ||
Go grab a reloading manual flip through it and see how many ###-### cartrage desegnations you find that are NOT mm x mm. For example, the 22-250, the 7 x 30 Waters, the 7mm-08 Rem., the 30-40 Krag, the 30-'06 [one of the most popular military rifle rounds of all time], the 45-70, the 32-20. "powder grain" don't spout off without checking your facts; some of the cartrage designations the like in the 45-70 the 70 stood for a charge weight of 70 grains [4.536 grams] of black powder. | Go grab a reloading manual flip through it and see how many ###-### cartrage desegnations you find that are NOT mm x mm. For example, the 22-250, the 7 x 30 Waters, the 7mm-08 Rem., the 30-40 Krag, the 30-'06 [one of the most popular military rifle rounds of all time], the 45-70, the 32-20. "powder grain" don't spout off without checking your facts; some of the cartrage designations the like in the 45-70 the 70 stood for a charge weight of 70 grains [4.536 grams] of black powder. | ||
Oh, and robrob force = mass x acceleration, not speed. | Oh, and robrob force = mass x acceleration, not speed. | ||
[[User:Dagger133|Dagger133]] 05:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)05:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC) | [[User:Dagger133|Dagger133]] 05:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)05:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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What do you think that stands for? Any guesses people?([[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 23:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)) | What do you think that stands for? Any guesses people?([[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 23:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)) | ||
Okay I'm curious now... when was this mentioned? Was it pre-Halo 2 release or in one of the books somewhere? [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 16:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC) | Okay I'm curious now... when was this mentioned? Was it pre-Halo 2 release or in one of the books somewhere? [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 16:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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In terms of Bungie balancing their game, yes, the BR replaced the Halo: CE pistol. In terms of the Halo fictional universe, of course the BR was not the pistol replacement. But it is in terms of gameplay. | In terms of Bungie balancing their game, yes, the BR replaced the Halo: CE pistol. In terms of the Halo fictional universe, of course the BR was not the pistol replacement. But it is in terms of gameplay. | ||
== It isnt considered cheating == | == It isnt considered cheating == | ||
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A good photo of the characters can be found here: http://nikon.bungie.org/images/ARchar.jpg | A good photo of the characters can be found here: http://nikon.bungie.org/images/ARchar.jpg | ||
It's hou2 wang2, which does mean the monkey king. Look up the 'journey to the west' legend for where that name comes from. | It's hou2 wang2, which does mean the monkey king. Look up the 'journey to the west' legend for where that name comes from. | ||
== SA80????? == | == SA80????? == | ||
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The article says that the design of the BR55 was influenced by the SA80. Now, I've used the Cadet GP, which is more or less the same thing, and it doesn't look a thing like the BR55.--[[User:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 10:32, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | The article says that the design of the BR55 was influenced by the SA80. Now, I've used the Cadet GP, which is more or less the same thing, and it doesn't look a thing like the BR55.--[[User:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 10:32, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Relationship with the MA5 == | == Relationship with the MA5 == | ||
It is my opinion that Earth was the only UNSC world to have access to the BR55, as even the hidden few on Reach were only advanced prototypes. After the Battle of Reach perhaps HIGHCOM decided to finally, (after ~27 ''years''), issue it as a standard weapon to Marine forces stationed at Earth/Luna/Sol. As for the lack of any MA5s in Halo 2 (the standard armament for Marines and soldiers), well, that's a gameplay element. In the two-ish months between the beginnings of Halo 2 and Halo 3, the UNSC had already upgraded/replaced many of its BR55s with BR55 HB SRs. The MA5C was, perhaps, already Earth's main assault rifle, rather than the more common B model, although the C was used | It is my opinion that Earth was the only UNSC world to have access to the BR55, as even the hidden few on Reach were only advanced prototypes. After the Battle of Reach perhaps HIGHCOM decided to finally, (after ~27 ''years''), issue it as a standard weapon to Marine forces stationed at Earth/Luna/Sol. As for the lack of any MA5s in Halo 2 (the standard armament for Marines and soldiers), well, that's a gameplay element. In the two-ish months between the beginnings of Halo 2 and Halo 3, the UNSC had already upgraded/replaced many of its BR55s with BR55 HB SRs. The MA5C was, perhaps, already Earth's main assault rifle, rather than the more common B model, although the C was used elsewhere, (apparently not at Reach, though.) --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 00:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
To get this point out, I think the M6D is a special-issue, often NavSpecWar-issued weapon. The M6C is a standard Navy-issue weapon, and the M6G is a standard-issue Marine Corps weapon. --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 00:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC) | To get this point out, I think the M6D is a special-issue, often NavSpecWar-issued weapon. The M6C is a standard Navy-issue weapon, and the M6G is a standard-issue Marine Corps weapon. --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 00:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC) | ||