Talk:Sumda'te-pattern Scarab
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--Shun Kanamee (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2014 (EDT)How many feet feet long, tall, and width is the Super Scarab? And how big is it compared to the Harvester? I need to know.
- I don't actually know. Since it was not one of the objects included in the first Halo Visual Guide, I didn't have any of the scans or data on that Scarab. I could figure it out if I had the model as I helped devise the measurements of Halo Wars objects for the book but I don't if any extracted mesh models from the game exist out there. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 20:16, 14 March 2014 (EDT)
Catalog confirms
Catalog just confirmed that the Halo 2 Scarab is the T-36 Scarab. Any thoughts or disagreements before I do a massive overhaul of the T-36 and T-47 pages?Sith-venator Wavingstrider 
(Commlink) 01:09, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
- Now that I see it, the "head" of the Super-Scarab looks very similar to the H2 Scarab's "head".--They're coming. They're hungry. (talk) 01:19, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
- For a long time the T-47 page assumed that the Scarab in Halo Wars was a Halo 2 Scarab. Then one day Halo 4: The Essential Visual Guide popped up to put an end to that. Though me and Stephen Loftus had a discussion before I made this page and did say that the T-36 wasn't the Halo 2 Scarab. Of course 343 may have changed their minds on it.Sith-venator Wavingstrider
(Commlink) 01:23, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
- Seems to have been overwritten. The original source of the Halo 2 and 3 Scarabs both being the T-47 was from the Scarab entry in the first Visual Guide, where Halo 2 is cited as an appearance, yet only T-47 appears in any descriptions on the page. This was actually discussed during the production of the book. The reference in the Halo 4 Visual Guide to T-36 was intended to refer to the Halo Wars variant, but it seems that Catalog has retconned that now. If I can follow up with them, I'll post in again. Don't change it just yet - remember, Palace Hotel is still explicitly referring to the "tee forty-seven" as the Halo 2 Scarab. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 14:39, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
- Okay I'll wait.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 16:33, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
- Okay I'll wait.Sith-venator Wavingstrider
- Seems to have been overwritten. The original source of the Halo 2 and 3 Scarabs both being the T-47 was from the Scarab entry in the first Visual Guide, where Halo 2 is cited as an appearance, yet only T-47 appears in any descriptions on the page. This was actually discussed during the production of the book. The reference in the Halo 4 Visual Guide to T-36 was intended to refer to the Halo Wars variant, but it seems that Catalog has retconned that now. If I can follow up with them, I'll post in again. Don't change it just yet - remember, Palace Hotel is still explicitly referring to the "tee forty-seven" as the Halo 2 Scarab. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 14:39, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
- For a long time the T-47 page assumed that the Scarab in Halo Wars was a Halo 2 Scarab. Then one day Halo 4: The Essential Visual Guide popped up to put an end to that. Though me and Stephen Loftus had a discussion before I made this page and did say that the T-36 wasn't the Halo 2 Scarab. Of course 343 may have changed their minds on it.Sith-venator Wavingstrider
So it's been about two months and the MCC is right around the corner. Did you get an answer Stephen?Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 17:11, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- When I'd last messaged Catalog, it was still being bandied about. I just sent a follow up so hopefully I'll get a response in a day or so. Thanks for the reminder...this one had slipped past me.ScaleMaster117 (talk) 21:22, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
- Sounds good. I'll still work on the draft until then.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 00:43, 23 October 2014 (EDT)
- Sounds good. I'll still work on the draft until then.Sith-venator Wavingstrider
I know it has been a few months, but I wanted to throw my two cents in. First of all, in regards to ScaleMaster117 on August of 2014, I would take anything Palace Hotel says with a grain of salt. Remember it is an alternate telling of Halo 2, so it's not explicitly canon. Second I don't usually like retcons at all but with the gathering of more information, the statement from Catalog, and the very appearance of the Type 36 in comparison to the Type 47, I would say 343 has retconned the Scarab from Halo 2 as being a Super Scarab. They appear the same in design and size and both sport super powered main guns in comparison to the Halo 3 type scarab.
I know I am a junior member, so what I say doesn't mean much at all. But I just wanted to throw in my support of including the Halo 2 Scarab in the Type 36 article. Of course I do understand if we do not have enough information to do so.Rprince418 (talk) 10:56, 10 November 2014 (EST)
- "I know I am a junior member, so what I say doesn't mean much at all.": Veterancy on this wiki means nothing (save for the occasional "get a life!"). What matters is what you can contribute to the wiki. Just have to clarify this.— subtank 11:11, 10 November 2014 (EST)
- Thanks. Also, Sith Venator I do have a suggestion on the draft. The main picture you have is very cool, but in my opinion does not make for a good main picture. The smog is covering up most of the vehicle. I would suggest putting the one you have below it, with the white background. It may not be as neat, but it gives a better view of the Scarab. I would keep the current main picture and put it in the gallery section however as it is neat and relevant to the article in question.Rprince418 (talk) 18:06, 10 November 2014 (EST)