Talk:Avery Johnson

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Date of Birth

If Johnson joined the Marine Corps when he was 19, and ORION received their volunteers in 2491, doesn't that mean his date of birth was at least 2472? Template:Sonasig

Johnson and the Flood

Regarding Johnson and his apparent "Flood immunity", I feel this article contradicts itself.

First we have, in the "Human-Covenant War" section:

"However, the Boren's Syndrome story (referred to as the "Paris/BS Spoof"), was a hoax to cover up Johnson's involvement in the ORION Project, and his survival from the Flood was due to his exceptional fighting skill as a result of the procedures performed on him during the ORION project."

And then we have, in the "Battle of Installation 04" section:

"Johnson fought his way out of the nightmare through sheer tenacity and firepower."

But then we have, in the "Operation: FIRST STRIKE" section:

"They matched Johnson’s survival against the Flood to his Boren’s Syndrome. Flood DNA was present in Johnson’s blood, but it was dormant and non-infectious. Halsey also confirmed that Johnson had gained some unique regenerative abilities as a side effect from the attempted assimilation back on Halo when they accidentally opened the Flood Containment Facility."

To me, this last extract seems to be inaccurate. The first two extracts suggest that Johnson fought his way out because he is just that badass and/or is exceptionally strong and resilient due to his ORION Project augmentations. However, the last extract reinforces the since-discredited view that Johnson, either because of illness or his ORION augmentations, is actually immune to the Flood. I would remove it, but I'm not entirely certain where we currently stand on Johnson and the Flood's effect on him. It would also mean retconning one of First Strike's most interesting subplots.--The All-knowing Sith'ari 10:50, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

The most likely explanation is that his ORION augmentations, (covered up by the Paris/BS Spoof), really did allow him to survive the Flood onslaught and save him from infection. His superior training and decades of combat experience certainly helped, but it was probably a combination of both factors that enabled him to get out alive. This article hasn't had a major rewrite in a very long time; the references to Johnson surviving "by firepower alone" should have been removed when they were added, but that was years ago. Oh well. --Courage never dies. 11:04, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

I agree - it was the ORION augments. We know that Flood spores have the power to infect potential hosts, though both Johnson and John-117 have shown no reaction as of yet. When the flood spores were recovered by humans, they initially took years to take effect, though that was most likely linked to a degenerative state (weakened by the years without food on the intergalactic journey). We next see it jump from animal to person, and then from person to person rapidly, with the mutations becoming visible. Being attacked by the "revived" flood forms (that is, recovered from the degenerative conditions), we should have seen a fairly quick reaction in both John and Johnson; we do not. The only thing that links these two together is that they have been augmented.-- Forerunner 12:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)