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::The tilt-rotor theory here...I forgot about the Harrier, and that definitely seems to be a better fit than the Osprey. I brought the Osprey up, however, because its engines are directly installed in the nacelles, just like the Pelican, and by varying the direction of the nacelles it can maneuver. The Pelican obviously relies heavily on this principle, more so than the Osprey, so I would say the connection still stands. The Harrier uses its nozzles to take off vertically and uses them somewhat to maneuver, but also relies on control surfaces as its primary means of maneuvering. Additionally, its engine is mounted internally as is the case on most other aircraft. The Harrier also generates its lift from its wings just like a regular aircraft. Yes, it initially uses its powerplant to get up to speed, but once it gets up to a certain speed, the wings generate enough lift to support it, and it no longer needs to rely solely on its powerplant to keep it up. I definitely agree that in the final theory/explanation, it should mention the Harrier's method of maneuvering. [User:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">orionf22</span>]] ([[User talk:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">"TALK PAGE"</span>]]) 22:01, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
::The tilt-rotor theory here...I forgot about the Harrier, and that definitely seems to be a better fit than the Osprey. I brought the Osprey up, however, because its engines are directly installed in the nacelles, just like the Pelican, and by varying the direction of the nacelles it can maneuver. The Pelican obviously relies heavily on this principle, more so than the Osprey, so I would say the connection still stands. The Harrier uses its nozzles to take off vertically and uses them somewhat to maneuver, but also relies on control surfaces as its primary means of maneuvering. Additionally, its engine is mounted internally as is the case on most other aircraft. The Harrier also generates its lift from its wings just like a regular aircraft. Yes, it initially uses its powerplant to get up to speed, but once it gets up to a certain speed, the wings generate enough lift to support it, and it no longer needs to rely solely on its powerplant to keep it up. I definitely agree that in the final theory/explanation, it should mention the Harrier's method of maneuvering. [User:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">orionf22</span>]] ([[User talk:orionf22|<span style="color:blue">"TALK PAGE"</span>]]) 22:01, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
{{Quote|''Current flight theories''|What you said above}}
{{Quote|''Current flight theories''|What you said above}}
:::The problem with your statement above is ''Current flight theories''. The Pelican was developed in the future, thus scientists in that timeline might have solved the problem with short, stubby wings and powerful propulsion systems. Our current knowledge of the world is constantly changing and expanding as we progress through time, thus we can say it is possible for the Pelican to achieve such feat with such propulsion system in the future. All we can do for now is speculate with concrete support/evidence... I would suggest getting someone with a degree in aerodynamics to explain it for us and show whether it's feasible. As for now, just hold off with the speculations. We've came into some trouble in the past with these speculations in articles and it resulted badly. So, please hold off these speculations. If you insist, please provide concrete proof/evidence to support it and get someone with an official degree to explain it to us.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
:::The problem with your statement above is ''Current flight theories''. The Pelican was developed in the future, thus scientists in that timeline might have solved the problem with short, stubby wings and powerful propulsion systems. Our current knowledge of the world is constantly changing and expanding as we progress through time, thus we can say it is possible for the Pelican to achieve such feat with such propulsion system in the future. All we can do for now is speculate with concrete support/evidence... I would suggest getting someone with a degree in aerodynamics to explain it for us and show whether it's feasible. As for now, just hold off with the speculations. We've came into some trouble in the past with these speculations in articles and it resulted badly. So, please hold off these speculations. If you insist, please provide concrete proof/evidence to support it and get someone with an official degree to explain it to us.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)