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:I don't think this is a comparable situation to the Banished, though. The UNSC was involved in and influenced key events of the Great Schism (e.g. the deaths of Tartarus and Truth), unlike the Banished in the Covenant War (who were just raiding some supplies). Foreign states can be (and often are) involved in someone else's civil wars, and in the Schism's case the UNSC's contribution was substantial enough to be noted. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 01:06, 3 April 2017 (EDT)
:I don't think this is a comparable situation to the Banished, though. The UNSC was involved in and influenced key events of the Great Schism (e.g. the deaths of Tartarus and Truth), unlike the Banished in the Covenant War (who were just raiding some supplies). Foreign states can be (and often are) involved in someone else's civil wars, and in the Schism's case the UNSC's contribution was substantial enough to be noted. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 01:06, 3 April 2017 (EDT)


::The UNSC definitely were involved! Although it's more so portrayed as an overlap of the two conflicts (Human-Covenant War and Covenant civil war). In addition the infobox is rather cluttered including the UNSC for a few dates but absent for several, as the Great Schism transformed from a civil-war to ongoing battles in the post-war years it becomes rather convoluted. I think the several mentions of UNSC involvement in the article itself demonstrates their involvement, the infobox just doesn't seem to have the space for them with the Great Schism really being two timelines of conflicts squished into one.
::They definitely were involved, although it's more so portrayed as an overlap of the two conflicts (Human-Covenant War and Covenant civil war). In addition the infobox is rather cluttered including the UNSC for a few dates but absent for several, as the Great Schism transformed from a civil-war to ongoing battles in the post-war years it becomes rather convoluted. I think the several mentions of UNSC involvement in the article itself demonstrates their involvement, the infobox just doesn't seem to have the space for them with the Great Schism really being two timelines of conflicts squished into one.


::By including the UNSC, we could hypothetically include the Flood too; as they were involved in the fall of High Charity, and the Flood momentarily sided with the Master Chief and the Sangheili kill Truth and the Covenant. It's not to say that Flood or UNSC were unimportant during the conflict, more so that they were third parties by extension of other conflicts and would convolute they key billegerants of the Great Schism. They still have significant mentions in the article itself, so I don't mean to disagree with you entirely![[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 05:00, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
::By including the UNSC, we could hypothetically include the Flood too; as they were involved in the fall of High Charity, and the Flood momentarily sided with the Master Chief and the Sangheili kill Truth and the Covenant. It's not to say that Flood or UNSC were unimportant during the conflict, more so that they were third parties by extension of other conflicts and would convolute they key billegerants of the Great Schism. They still have significant mentions in the article itself, so I don't mean to disagree with you entirely![[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 05:00, 5 April 2017 (EDT)

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