Editing Talk:Dextro Xur-pattern Spirit

File:Gruntsindropship.jpg|thumb|Grunts getting out of a Spirit]]
==Technical Issues?==
Are you sure it was gotten rid of due to technical issues? I mean if thats the case then why didn't they just fix it? {{unsigned|87.254.65.193}}
:Yeah, that looks like speculation. I've removed it. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 02:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Well it's Bull that we <users> are not able to use it it is Shit!

==Spirt Dropship==
I want to know what the proper name of it is. {{unsigned|Joshua 029}}
:As far as I know, it hasn't been revealed. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 19:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently it just has: See [http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=753450 this post]. Despite the bungie.org address, KP is in fact a Bungie employee. --Andrew Nagy [[User:68.44.13.236|68.44.13.236]] 19:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
:::*Looking through the thread I see that:
* '''Harbinger''' is the unofficial fan name of it althought '''Apparation''' is used too
* Apparantly on Pg 195 of [[Ghosts of Onyx]], it is mentioned, ''once or twice with the Phantoms. I just finished the book and that is only reference to that name I've ever seen. "-Phantoms, Spirits and even Banshees--''[http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=753441]" (195).
* When Peptuck from the forum says, ''"I would make the call that the U-shaped dropships are actually "Spirit" transports"''[http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=753450]. KP or Kevin Paul seems to confirm the name by stating, ''"Yeah, it's the U-shaped dropship from Halo 1.- KP"''

*So should this article be moved to "Spirt Covenant Dropship"? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 22:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

::I would move it to "Spirit". If we move it to "Covenant Dropship", we will need to adjust the title of every vehicle for consistancy, and I think the pages should just be the real name. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 22:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

This is the only place I'v seen it being called Spirit so someone should change it back to dropship.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 21:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:Bungie confirms. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 23:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I heard a marine call it a "Bandit" in the level "Halo".--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 23:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The term "Bandit" usually means enemy, he wasn't calling the dropship by a name, he was just pointing out that there were enemies around. User:Joshua 029

Bandit and Bogie are common names for enemy aircraft.

I wish it was usable in Halo 3. User:superplayer08

==DX-class Dropship==
Where did this name come from? --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 00:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Halo: Ghosts of Onyx, page 286.

"Something..." Y'gar leaned closer to examine the wavering reply signal.

Voro Moved to his station.

"It's one of ours." Voro declared. "Send it to the ship's Oracle for pattern match."

"Yes, sir." Y'gar replied. "Ship ID . . . DX Class."

"A Dropship? Identify the parent ship registry."

Yeah... Eric Nylund appears to get the rights to name things. It may or may not ever be in a game, but since Y'gar said it's a DX Class and Voro knew it was a Dropship, DX must mean Dropship, or Spirit. --[[User:68.160.110.166|68.160.110.166]] 03:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it means Dragonclaws Is A UF

Maybe everyone who looks at it gets a sad face. [[User talk:Dreaddraco2|Dreaddraco2]] 21:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
== Logistics ==

There are between the fork appears perfect for ferrying large numbers of covenant supply cases that would be clumsy in a Phantom. The spirit looks perfect for a logistical support aircraft possessing only light armor and armament. On the first Halo, they might have been repurposed as combat dropships. A lack of phantoms available to the covenant on Halo would support the theory. If, at the battle of Reach, all or most of the phantoms were already ferrying troops to the planet and those ships that pursued the Pillar of Autumn left without their phantoms. Then only a handful or reduced number of phantoms would be with the fleet and be used only sparingly for important assignments such as Rtas Vadumee's retaking of the Infinite Succor. Thus, the logistical/non-combatant dropships would be used to fill the role.



Maybe, but that's still speculation[[User talk:Toen6|Toen6]] 21:01, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

== Inaccurate Information? ==

"Within each of these bays there appears to be a door hinting at the possibility that more soldiers could be unleashed from deeper within the vessel."

I've had the opportunity to inspect Halo: Combat Evolved's Spirit dropship thoroughly, and not once have I seen such a door as referenced here. There ''are'' open, darkened passageways on the sternmost ends of each bay, but these, according to Halo works, simply lead to the cockpit, not another personnel compartment.

Should this statement be removed/changed?

[[User talk:Moxus|Moxus]] 12:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Moxus

Actually we don't have enough info about this, also because Halo CE's Spirit was not very detailedin its depiction, so let's keep that statement. Spirit of Fire 13:00, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

OK im confused. Does it unload troops through it's drop-bay doors or a grav-lift and if it uses a grav-lift where does the turret go?--[[Special:Contributions/4.153.69.250|4.153.69.250]] 23:33, November 28, 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST
:It unload troops through its drop-bay doors. The grav-lift, to my understanding, is for quick pick-up as seen in Halo Wars' cutscene. In the cutscene, it seems the Turret Ball goes into the craft, thus allowing the dropship to use its grav-lift.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 23:34, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks I appreciate the info--[[Special:Contributions/4.153.69.250|4.153.69.250]] 23:39, November 28, 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST
== Change the picture? ==

Sould'nt we change the picture to a better detailed one, like from [[Halo Wars]]?--[[User talk:Yugiohtipman34|Yugiohtipman34]] 06:24, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

: You can't really make detailed images of Halo Wars because the graphics are not as good as the first-person shooter games. [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green">'''Rezo '''</span><span style="color:blue">''''Scratoqee'''</span>]] File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby <span style="color:red">'''Talk'''</span>]) 20:17, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

==Type-25 Troop Carrier==
I'm probably not the first to see this, but [http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=ordnance&cid=24584 this page] from bungie.net says it's official name is Typer-25 Troop Carrier, so should the title be changed or what? CoH/Member List#Field Masters|<span style="color:gold">''Field''</span>]] UoH/Member List#Colonel|<span style="color:#000000">''Master''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Spartansniper</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">50</span>]] 00:45, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

: in th Halo Reach manuel, it's known as the Type-28 troop carrier.--[[User talk:Zervziel|For the Swarm!]] 19:03, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

:: Then the article should be changed. The wraith is listed with a diffrent number also, so that nneds to be changed too. [[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] 11:19, 14 November 2010 (EST)

== 7? ==

Does anyone else find it interesting that the Type-25 and the Type-52 both have 2 and 5 in their designations? Which add up to 7? [[Special:Contributions/138.88.76.77|138.88.76.77]] 21:26, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Good find, that is interesting[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 23:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

==Driveable?==
Is this able to be driven in Reach? I really hope so as I think that the Spirit is cool. Could any information regarding this be posted here? Thanks.

Sorry bud, it isn't. But I bet you could mod it if you wanted to.[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 23:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

== Spirit weapons ==

In the article it incorectly states the auto cannon used by the spirit and Phantom is the Light Plasma Mortar. This is  incorrect becuse having played the game,  there are numerus differences in how the two cannons perform mainly the lack of the mortar head color differences and the lack of an arc on the Plasma. I belive that that was most likely prerelese speculation and should be taken out.'''[[User talk:Dragrath1|Dragrath1]] 19:37, September 25, 2010 (UTC)'''

== Destructable? ==

Anyone know if the Reach version can be destroyed or if it is invincible like the CE version? [[User talk:VARGR|VARGR]] 21:32, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like this answered, too. [[Special:Contributions/98.155.159.178|98.155.159.178]] 03:08, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

== Designation Change to Type-25 ==

I was actually really surprised how [http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1091093 this makes complete sense]. Stephen Loftus seems to have confirmed it from his experience collaborating with 343, though as a fan I'm not sure what his opinion is worth. -- [[User:Specops306|'''<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>''']] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u>''<font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font>''</u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u>''<font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font>''</u>]] 06:26, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

:Page 184 of ''The Essential Visual Guide'' confirms that the Spectre was first encountered in 2546, and ''Waypoint'' says that [http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/intel/theuniverse/tech/gallery/banshee-fighter/82613d70-17cc-4652-8ab1-a1f16e29c516 the space Banshee was first encountered in 2527]. We know that the plasma pistol, the Spiker, the Chopper, and likely the Brute Shot were first encountered at Harvest in 2525. The "Enemies" section of the Halo: ''Reach'' website states that the Sangheili were deployed against humanity immediately after the First Battle of Harvest, which makes it likely that the plasma rifle was first seen at that time.

:The problem is that several weapons and vehicles were first encountered years earlier than their designations may suggest. For example, the T-33 LAAW was first encountered in 2531, as stated both [http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/content.aspx?link=h3fuelrod here] and in ''The Essential Visual Guide'', and as seen in ''Homecoming''. The Ghost, the Needler, the beam rifle, the Scarab, and the Locust - which isn't mentioned in that article - were all first encountered before 2531. The Type-52 DESW was encountered as early as 2544, as seen in ''The Package''.

:Taking every designation at face value suggests that the Covenant didn't deploy key pieces of their arsenal until years into the war, though the ''EVG'' clearly states that the designs of most of these assets were thousands of years old. Unsurprisingly, some of the guys on ''HBO'' have tried to throw around ''"halo wars isnt canon cuz it wasnt made by bungie lol"'' and ''"they didnt hav teh story bible"'' nonsense, but they have no solid ground to stand on. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 11:24, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

It doesn't make sense that the Covenant wouldn't employ sniper rifles until 2550, or heavy weapons until 2533. Plus, Halsey's journal describes either a Plasma Launcher or Concussion Rifle (likely the former) being encountered by UNSC personnel well before either of their introduction dates. Also, the needler makes a key appearance in a ''Halo Wars'' cutscene (I don't remember the name of the cutscene or level, but it's the one where Forge and Anders are ambushed by Stealth/Spec Ops Elites in the Harvest artifact). The Elites are ''all'' clearly seen wielding needlers. When you look at this system at first, it makes sense, but upon closer examination, it's full of holes. [[User:Anonymous ONI agent|A.O.A., Administrator of Ace Combat Fanon]] 00:05, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

I got an OK answer.  There WERE Snipers on 04, but you just never encountered them.  The only places where I can see them being there are maybe The Silent Cartographer, The Truth and Reconciliation, and Assault on the Control Room/Two Betrayals.  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:04, 4 September 2011 (EDT)!!!

:Waypoint's article on the fuel rod gun confirms that Covenant matériel is named for the year in which it is cataloged by ONI. This is usually the same as the year in which it is first encountered, (T25 DER, T27 XMF, T46 ISV, T48 LAGC), but there are exceptions; the article states that while the T33 LAAW was first encountered on Harvest in 2531, ONI did not catalog it for a further two years. This also explains why the Ghost and the needler are designated Type-32 and Type-33, respectively, despite having been encountered in 2531 or earlier. This creates some weirdness, though: the Phantom, the carbine, and the beam rifle were encountered in 2531, and the T52 DESW was seen as early as 2544; all were seen throughout the war, yet ONI failed to catalog them until near the end. I suppose this is justified, as cataloging a weapon would take much more than saying, ''"Hey guys. This weapon exists; watch out for it."'' Better late than never, I suppose. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:13, 19 September 2011 (EDT)

Resurrecting an old topic, but rather than being the year they were first ''encountered'', perhaps the Type indicates the year it was ''recovered''? Spartans have standing orders to recover any examples of intact Covenant technology, and we know that at least some Covenant Weapons, ie; the Energy Sword, and the Fuel Rods in Combat Evolved, have failsafes to prevent their use. -- [[User:Specops306|'''<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>''']] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u>''<font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font>''</u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u>''<font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font>''</u>]] 19:51, 15 February 2012 (EST)

:Makes sense, though oddly this doesn't carry over with the [[Type-1 Energy Weapon/Sword]], the {{Pattern|Anskum|plasma grenade}}, or the [[Gravity hammer (fiction)|gravity hammer]]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 20:01, 15 February 2012 (EST)

::Perhaps an indication that none have been recovered? Swords have the aforementioned failsafe, taking a hammer from a Brute can't be an easy task, and the grenades...I don't know, maybe Marines just stayed the hell away from something that is designed to impale you?-- [[User:Specops306|'''<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>''']] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u>''<font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font>''</u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u>''<font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font>''</u>]] 22:54, 15 February 2012 (EST)

Sorry for resurrecting this but if the number after the type represents the year the UNSC recovered Covenant tech intact then how do you explain the Type-47 Ultra Heavy Assault Platform otherwise known as the Scarab? It was Catalogued in 2547 and it would technically be hard to hijack one.--[[User talk:Theraptor92|Theraptor92]] 19:07, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

== One of the images in the gallery has wrong informations ==
Hello, first time editor here. I noticed that one of the pictures in the image gallery mistakes the front of the ship for the back and vice versa. I decided to make a fixed version of the image, also rearranging the order of the images to make it look more sensed graphically. 

My problem is that when i go editing the gallery to put my file instead of the old one it appears to work in the preview window, but not in the actual page. Is there some sort of requirement i am missing to edit a page? [[User:TaxiService|<font color="ff8000">'''''TaxiService'''''</font>]] [[User talk:TaxiService|<font color="000000"><small><u>talk</u></small></font>]] 14:00, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

:I believe there is a edit-count requirement (a total of five-ten normal edits?). Also, I took the liberty of updating the old file with the fixed file. Note; you can update all images by clicking "Upload new revision".— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 13:29, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

:Oh, alright. I am happy that the informations are now correct, even if the author of the image is not quoted. :P Thanks. [[User:TaxiService|<font color="ff8000">'''''TaxiService'''''</font>]] [[User talk:TaxiService|<font color="000000"><small><u>talk</u></small></font>]] 04:45, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

::You can check the author of the image by clicking the image... assuming that the information about the author has been entered.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:02, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

Wow!  Taxi Service, what OS do you have (Mac, PC, etc.)?!?!!! Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:05, 4 September 2011 (EDT)!!!!

==Replacement by the Phantom?==
Early on during Halo 2 and even during Halo Wars' respective releases, I remember a lot of talk about the Spirit being phased out on the frontlines and superseded by the Phantom. However, they apparently are still in use after the war with the Remnant. So has this information long since been retconned? I presume both dropships are in common service still now.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 00:14, 14 February 2014 (EST)

:I always assumed the Spirit had started to get phased out as early as 2531 due to a Phantom (at the time always thought it was the Type-52, but since the Type-44 popped up in Halo 4 it might even be a "Type-31" Phantom or something) appearing in Halo Wars: Genesis. Given that Jul 'Mdama's Covenant remnant is grabbing anything they can get their hands on it would make sense to make use of the Spirits, even if they are a little older. However you could always make the argument that it was never getting phased out, a military can have multiple kinds of transports or dropships. [[Wikipedia:List of active United States military aircraft|The US Military uses multiple kinds of aircraft even for the same role.]][[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 01:58, 14 February 2014 (EST)

You make a fair point. I only ask since the Spirits were nowhere to be seen between Halo: CE and Halo Wars.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 02:06, 14 February 2014 (EST)

==Halo 5: Guardians Spirit==
I know it hasn't been stated directly. But I think its safe to assume that with almost all the vehicles in Halo 5 being new variants that this Spirit is a new variant also. <br>
A Type-57 Spirit I would guess(though the name is more theory. It being a new variant isnt.<br>
Regardless wouldn't it be an idea to add a section stating that its at least a new variant till we are 100% certain? - [[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 10:25, 9 October 2015 (GMT)
:It is probably a new Spirit, but without a name we have nowhere else to put the info without creating a page called "Unidentified Spirit model". So like with the Phantom I'm just keeping everything here until we get confirmation.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 06:11, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
^^^[[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 07:06, 10 October 2015 (EDT)

==Split the page==
I split the Type-25 and {{Pattern|Taaku Xur|Spirit}} stuff.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 16:19, 21 January 2018 (EST)

::Good work.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 16:24, 21 January 2018 (EST)TheEld

:::Seems premature to split it given that I don't see any official confirmation that the Type-28 exist. Please check [[Talk:Type-28 Spirit#Confirmation of Type-28|this discussion page]]. Unless shown to the contrary, I recommend removing the Type-28 article and reverting all relevant changes made. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  11:52, 23 January 2018 (EST)