Pantegral's board-to-board with Shazamikaze

By the way, what is the Sequence Group? And did you notice that Halo Waypoint has the Halo: Reach file browser up? I'll be asking Fairfieldfencer this question also, to see if he has an account there.

They're not at all blurry. They're fine. Apologies, but my decision still stands. You wish them to be reverted, then I'm afraid you're going to have to do it yourself. Though I am disappointed, I had hoped you wouldn't mind. I just did a cross check fourth, fifth and sixth time. They're almost identical in nearly every way, though there are few minor microscopic discrepancies. I do not understand. Why must it always be 1366x768? How is it so different? There are however a couple I don't really mind if you (or if I chose to) revert them back, namely the images from the HCEA terminals, the ones I believe you spoke of. The other ones I would prefer they remained the same. But I do like bigger. Bigger is better. But to hell with it.

I understand your reluctance; it's just that I can't stand the slightly increased blurring (OCD tendencies much? Ha ha :) Still, I would consider it a personal favour if you could revert the four images. Should you decline, then at least change the two Terminal images back - those are not taken from the Cutscene Library, but an even higher-def video reel straight from the Sequence Group.

Sorry if I seem like an arrogant, prideful fool. But to be honest my pride was stripped from me while I was in college, so therefore, I have no pride left. Uh, I also have a pet peeve about having all or mostly even numbers in the image size resolutions. And I just realized I could have used that HD mode function on YouTube, so I wanted to use it and give it a try. What can I say? I was pleased with the results. And as I said before, they were quite effectively no different from yours. But I did just bookmark the HBO Halo Cutscenes Library, so I can use that sometime, if I need another screenshot for something.

I suppose so. But for me, there is a slight difference. I am not a perfectionist, I do not believe in absolute perfection. The only thing (or rather, the only one person) that is absolutely perfect is the Christ. But religion aside, all I really have are perfectionist tendencies. There's a difference. Also, I didn't actually download anything. I watched the YouTube videos without downloading them, as I knew I would lose quality and the videos would be blurry. And I only download videos from YouTube I intend on watching over and over, just for the sheer fun of it, and also, unfortunately, with longing, too. So, no, I still think my screens are pretty good, hardly even blurry at all. No different from yours. In fact, aside from the difference in size resolutions, mine are no more blurry than yours. So what's all the fuss?

It's not about perfection, it's just that I don't want you to make the same mistake next time you upload replacement versions. Honestly, this isn't some sort of competition over who can upload the best pictures; reverting the images won't cost either of us anything, so it should be a non-issue. The difference may be small, but this is a collaborative wiki - we should always strive for the best possible quality. Should you want to remove an lower-res file that I uploaded, I would do so if your reasoning is sound. You're a fellow perfectionist, uploading new versions of your transparent cutouts over the smallest errors; I think you would understand.

As a note, YouTube files are heavily compressed, causing loss of quality. The Scanned trailer is 38MB when downloaded from YouTube at 720p; it's 105MB on the Press Center. In practical terms, the difference lies in increased blurring and screen artifacts.

Oh, and you might as well know this too...I used only trusted sources too, and even though it is just on YouTube, when the mode is set to, as I said earlier, 720p or 1080p HD modes, they did turn out great, not blurry at all. I made sure the source is from Halo Waypoint. Unfortunately I can't say the same for other screens I've taken. But, under the circumstances, they turned out all right. Please don't be angry with me, I'm only trying to help! :-)

(Corrected Message) Oh. Those files. Well, when I watched those videos from Halo Anniversary, I set the mode to 720p or 1080p or whatever HD mode was available at the time (and the screens turned out great, btw), both of which is high-definition for YouTube. And I did compare the screenshots I uploaded against yours. My screenshots are no different from yours. There is no such thing as absolute perfection. And I might add that some of your images appear to be slightly misaligned when compared to those of the short movies. Not that I'm trying to provoke you or anything. I honestly don't think we need to argue about this. Can we please let the matter drop?

I sent two messages for you yesterday, one concerning several new uploads and one about the ONI emblem; it appears you've missed the former. To reiterate, you've uploaded these new image versions (1, 2, 3, 4), citing that they're "larger, high-definition images." If you compare your version and mine, you can see that my versions are all less blurry and have more well-defined edges. This is because I try to only use source images or screencaps from high-quality sources (such as the HBO Cutscene Gallery and the Xbox Press Center). Please note that your higher-resolution monitor (1440x900, compared to my 1366x800) does not equal higher capture quality; only the source video matters. This file is a good example; it's super high-res, sure, but the quality remains very low.

Are you talking about the images in your PhotoBucket? If so yes, and even then, you don't need my permission where your PB account is concerned. But if you're referring to the image saved here on the wiki, no, leave it as it is for now, until I can finish the other one. The present image file looks fine the way it is. Not everything needs to be absolutely perfect.

The files are from CG Hub, actually - my copy of Awakening still hasn't arrived for some reason, and scans would have much lower quality. On another note, do I have your permisssion to revert the four files I mentioned in my earlier message?

Did you get all that concept artwork from Awakening: The Art of Halo 4? I'm assuming you did. Right? If so, I gotta get a copy of my own!

Still working on it. I am using the GIMP version.

By the way, how's the ONI logo going? Did the RGB file work at all? If that fails, I think you should just make the GIMP version transparent as a compromise. The vectoring's not perfectly smooth, but it'll do just fine.

Hey Xamikaze, I've just noticed that you've uploaded these new image versions (1, 2, 3, 4), citing that they're "larger, high-definition images." If you compare your version and mine, you can see that my versions are all less blurry and have more well-defined edges. This is because I try to only use source images or screencaps from high-quality sources (such as the HBO Cutscene Gallery and the Xbox Press Center). Please note that a higher-resolution monitor does not equal higher capture quality. This file is a good example; it's super high-res, sure, but the quality remains very low.

Thanks for the links to the new images. I'll try to fix them up and get them ready as soon as I possibly can.

I've tried tinkering with the file, and this is the result: original (RGB), Photoshop and GIMP. The GIMP version seems to be the best compromise in quality terms - it's a bit blurry, but much less so than the Photoshop one. If you need the original file, here's the download link for the PDF.

I did. I can see a slight difference. But as for your image, we could use that, except that when I try to change it from grey to black, the text itself especially becomes rather deformed. I strongly believe the problem is due to the image being in Indexed Color mode rather than in default RGB mode. As I've said before, I tried changing it myself from Indexed Color to RGB, but it did not seem to have helped much. When I tried again to convert the colors from grey to black, it left some grey areas on the outer and inner edges of the image. I did the same thing while in Indexed Color mode, the shapes looked okay, but it warped the text, making it look rather bad. How many different ways do I need to say this? Must I go on? If you could somehow fix this dilemma, then that would be absolutely great.

Thanks for helping; I've noticed the discussion you've just had with Subtank on the talk page. However, the logo is official not misaligned. As the corner of the pyramid's black half merges into the surrounding circle while the white corner is well-defined, the Office of Naval Intelligence line appears to be right-aligned; it's an optical illusion. As for the image's source, please recheck the ONI logo's talk page. About the placeholder, the only issue I have with it is that the font size is too large; compare it to my image to see the difference.

I was able to find one that is identical to the one you suggested. But the image you suggested was a little hard to convert to black-and-white, due to it being in Indexed Color mode. Converting it to RGB mode didn't help; it only made it worse. See my previous message for details. Subtank told me the image has the text slightly misaligned to the right. I'll try to find a way to fix it if I can, unless someone else beats me to it. For now, just a placeholder image is available until revisions can be made and uploaded.

I tried to do it, but the result came out kinda weird. Some gray areas that just wouldn't go away. I think it might have something to do with the fact that it was in Indexed Color mode. I changed the mode to RGB, but that's when it started looking weird. So I tried it without converting it to RGB mode but keeping it Indexed Color mode so as to make it a little easier to make the necessary changes of the grey to black. But the result still came out rather weird. A little less weird than before, but not as seemingly perfect as I'd like it to be. You could try uploading it again without it being in Indexed Color mode but in RGB mode, and that might (and I stress might) solve the problem. Or we could both wait till someone uploads the corrected image as an SVG or PNG or something. Either way, I don't think you or I can solve this problem overnight.

Sure, I can do that.

Hey Xamikaze, I've noticed that the current ONI emblem has several errors, such as the font; could you use this official version to create a new black-and-white, transparent logo?

Hey, Kronos, I have an image for you that I need replaced with a larger closeup screenshot, preferably a little straighter than the one provided. You can either upload as a PNG over this file or you can upload the screenshot to your PhotoBucket, but please make it nice and big. See my previous message for reference. Thanks.

Hey, Kronos, if this alright by you, I'd like to pass on a little bit of advice, a sort of preference. Next time, could you try to make your screenshots in your PhotoBucket a little bigger, preferably something like 1920x1080, or 1536x1024 is an acceptable size. Just for future reference. Thanks.