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=== Forerunner = human race? ===
=== Forerunner = human race? ===


Further evidence to suggest that the Forerunner and human race are one and the same manifests itself in one of the final cutscenes of Halo: Combat Evolved. Guilty Spark, upon scanning the files of human history aboard the severely damaged Pillar of Autumn, remarks on, "''Our'' lost time." This subtle distinction, coupled with the knowledge that guilty spark refers to Master Chief and Miranda Keyes as the "Reclaimer" and acts as if they have met before, allows one to reasonably conclude that the human race is all that remains of the Forerunner. It's incredibly ironic, especially when one considers how the Covenant have essentially worshipped Forerunner technology and, at the same time, are driven by their dogmatic beliefs to eradicate the human race.  
Further evidence to suggest that the Forerunner and human race are one and the same manifests itself in one of the final cutscenes of Halo: Combat Evolved. Guilty Spark, upon scanning the files of human history aboard the severely damaged Pillar of Autumn, remarks on, "''Our'' lost time." This subtle distinction, coupled with the knowledge that guilty spark refers to Master Chief and Miranda Keyes as the "Reclaimer" and acts as if they have met before, allows one to reasonably conclude that the human race is all that remains of the Forerunner. It's incredibly ironic, especially when one considers how the Covenant have essentially worshipped Forerunner technology and, at the same time, are driven by their dogmatic beliefs to eradicate the human race.
* And let's not forget, the human race is believed to have come into origin in Africa, before migrating to Mesopatamia, where civilization began. - [[User:Chickenman|Chickenman]] 00:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
* And let's not forget, the human race is believed to have come into origin in Africa, before migrating to Mesopatamia, where civilization began. - [[User:Chickenman|Chickenman]] 00:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


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That's what I said -- [[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 18:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
That's what I said -- [[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 18:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


By who has it been determined? You? God? I think it all depends on how you interperet the data. And I've read every single terminal message, I know what it said. <br /> --[[User:Jaeryd|Jaeryd]] 14:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
By who has it been determined? You? God? I think it all depends on how you interperet the data. And I've read every single terminal message, I know what it said.<br />--[[User:Jaeryd|Jaeryd]] 14:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)




--Hold on <br />
--Hold on<br />
I'm pretty sure that the Forerunners ''are'' the ancestors of humans, because didn't the forerunners also stay on the Ark to be protected? I mean, why in the world would they purposefully leave the Ark to be destroyed? Maybe without their large civilization, they forgot their past technology and their civilization had to start over.
I'm pretty sure that the Forerunners ''are'' the ancestors of humans, because didn't the forerunners also stay on the Ark to be protected? I mean, why in the world would they purposefully leave the Ark to be destroyed? Maybe without their large civilization, they forgot their past technology and their civilization had to start over.
Other evidence: The Gravemind says "A father's sin pass to his son", what Guilty Spark says has already been pointed out many times, and the Prophet of Truth himself says "You are were not worthy of their Great Journey then, you are the ones they left behind! You are not worthy now!" Or something similar to that (that's probably innacurate in words used and order of what he said, but the general information is all there) suggesting that they were the surviving Forerunners that renewed their civilization. Also, when you think about Noah and the Flood, when he built the Ark, He and his family had to start civilization over again, but he didn't start it with a different race of animals or anything, so if there is any relation (which it seems there is) then that biblical reference hints that the Forerunners and the Humans are the same, genetically, but possess no knowledge of their past as the most advanced race in the galaxy.
Other evidence: The Gravemind says "A father's sin pass to his son", what Guilty Spark says has already been pointed out many times, and the Prophet of Truth himself says "You are were not worthy of their Great Journey then, you are the ones they left behind! You are not worthy now!" Or something similar to that (that's probably innacurate in words used and order of what he said, but the general information is all there) suggesting that they were the surviving Forerunners that renewed their civilization. Also, when you think about Noah and the Flood, when he built the Ark, He and his family had to start civilization over again, but he didn't start it with a different race of animals or anything, so if there is any relation (which it seems there is) then that biblical reference hints that the Forerunners and the Humans are the same, genetically, but possess no knowledge of their past as the most advanced race in the galaxy.
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=== Forerunners in the Ark? ===
=== Forerunners in the Ark? ===


It is also believed, though this is purely speculative, that the Ark may have sheltered the [[Forerunners|Forerunners]] after Halo's first use, which then evolved into humanity. In the Bible, God floods the Earth to cleanse it of all life, which has grown evil and wicked. However, he saves a group of righteous humans and two of of all animals by telling them to build and seek refuge in a ship, called the Ark. Thus it is a possibility that in Halo, the Ark is a structure or device that shields those using it from the effects of the rings' activation and the Flood. The humans on Earth might have descended from those who were protected by the Ark during the first activation of the rings. This theory is purely speculative of course.
It is also believed, though this is purely speculative, that the Ark may have sheltered the [[Forerunners]] after Halo's first use, which then evolved into humanity. In the Bible, God floods the Earth to cleanse it of all life, which has grown evil and wicked. However, he saves a group of righteous humans and two of of all animals by telling them to build and seek refuge in a ship, called the Ark. Thus it is a possibility that in Halo, the Ark is a structure or device that shields those using it from the effects of the rings' activation and the Flood. The humans on Earth might have descended from those who were protected by the Ark during the first activation of the rings. This theory is purely speculative of course.


=== Ark is a forerunner ship? ===
=== Ark is a forerunner ship? ===


Another speculative opinion assrets that the Ark is a forerunner ship which would jump into [[Slipspace|slipspace]] at the time of the activation of the seven Halo rings, thus removing the occupants from mass genocide that would purge the galaxy of all sentient life.  
Another speculative opinion assrets that the Ark is a forerunner ship which would jump into [[Slipspace|slipspace]] at the time of the activation of the seven Halo rings, thus removing the occupants from mass genocide that would purge the galaxy of all sentient life.
* We know from [[Halo:_Ghosts_of_Onyx|Halo: Ghosts of Onyx]] that this cannot be the case, as the Onyx Instilsation was the doorway to the Forerunner Construct of Shield World. This is the "Shield" to the Halo rings "Sword," Unless at the center of the ark is possibly another enterance to the Shield World. -- [[User:Simaster|Simaster]] 03:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
* We know from [[Halo:_Ghosts_of_Onyx|Halo: Ghosts of Onyx]] that this cannot be the case, as the Onyx Instilsation was the doorway to the Forerunner Construct of Shield World. This is the "Shield" to the Halo rings "Sword," Unless at the center of the ark is possibly another enterance to the Shield World. -- [[User:Simaster|Simaster]] 03:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


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:So? think it could have been a recieveing beacon from the Sphere or something? it doesn't say The Ark, it says earth_ark_09 -V
:So? think it could have been a recieveing beacon from the Sphere or something? it doesn't say The Ark, it says earth_ark_09 -V
::A Dyson sphere is a sphere, the thing in question is decidably not. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 17:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
::A Dyson sphere is a sphere, the thing in question is decidably not. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front <font color="000000">(shockfront)</font>]</sup></b> 17:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


The only thing about that is that the Forerunners had a "Shield" and a "Sword." The Ark would be the sword. The "Halo Bomb Shelter" would logically be the shield. It can defend against Halo.
The only thing about that is that the Forerunners had a "Shield" and a "Sword." The Ark would be the sword. The "Halo Bomb Shelter" would logically be the shield. It can defend against Halo.
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What if that huge flash of light was being angled towards the moon to awaken the ark there. What if it was some sort of signal or pulse laser communication to a different planet.--[[User:Halo3|Halo3]]Halo3
What if that huge flash of light was being angled towards the moon to awaken the ark there. What if it was some sort of signal or pulse laser communication to a different planet.--[[User:Halo3|Halo3]]Halo3


Intresting very possible but maybe it's just the power of this thing activating.
Intresting very possible but maybe it's just the power of this thing activating.
:We'll have to wait and see. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 17:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
:We'll have to wait and see. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front <font color="000000">(shockfront)</font>]</sup></b> 17:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


== The Ark or Ark ==
== The Ark or Ark ==
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*Change to '''The Ark''' - Now I propose that this be reversed as "The Ark" is a better name for the article -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 04:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
*Change to '''The Ark''' - Now I propose that this be reversed as "The Ark" is a better name for the article -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 04:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
*<s>Agreed '''The Ark'''--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 05:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)</s>
*<s>Agreed '''The Ark'''--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 05:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)</s>
*'''Ark''' - there is never a "the" in the article name, as per Wikipedia standards! <tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''']</tt> 20:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''Ark''' - there is never a "the" in the article name, as per Wikipedia standards! <tt>-49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''']</tt> 20:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
:*Halopedia is not Wikipedia. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
:*Halopedia is not Wikipedia. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
*Why does it matter if they redirect to each other anyway?--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 23:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
*Why does it matter if they redirect to each other anyway?--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 23:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
:*Besides broken redirects, it's not really a big issue. This vote is more to prevent users from switching it back and forth every couple of weeks. If there is a consensus then we can point to this vote and say this article title has been deemed "The Ark" or "Ark" -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
:*Besides broken redirects, it's not really a big issue. This vote is more to prevent users from switching it back and forth every couple of weeks. If there is a consensus then we can point to this vote and say this article title has been deemed "The Ark" or "Ark" -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::I would like to remind my esteemed colleagues that Wikipedia is the basis of all Wikias, and its guidelines are upheld by many Wikias, including the greatest in size of them all: Wookieepedia. Cheers, <tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''']</tt> 03:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::I would like to remind my esteemed colleagues that Wikipedia is the basis of all Wikias, and its guidelines are upheld by many Wikias, including the greatest in size of them all: Wookieepedia. Cheers, <tt>-49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''']</tt> 03:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
:::*Again [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is not|Halopedia IS NOT wikipedia or Wookiepedia]] for that matter -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 23:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
:::*Again [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is not|Halopedia IS NOT wikipedia or Wookiepedia]] for that matter -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 23:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''The Ark''' Simply because it's the name of the object O_o. As much as wikipedia standards say "No The in the title", this is halopedia, not wikipedia.<br />[[User:Vikedal|Vikedal]] 19:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
*'''The Ark''' Simply because it's the name of the object O_o. As much as wikipedia standards say "No The in the title", this is halopedia, not wikipedia.<br />[[User:Vikedal|Vikedal]] 19:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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:::[Coughs to cover his snickering at John's sudden vote change...] [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: black">HelmetComm</span></b>]]</sup><sup><nowiki>||</nowiki></sup><sup>[[User:Spartan-091/askAI|<b><span style="color: purple">Juliet</span></b>]]</sup> 22:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::[Coughs to cover his snickering at John's sudden vote change...] [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: black">HelmetComm</span></b>]]</sup><sup><nowiki>||</nowiki></sup><sup>[[User:Spartan-091/askAI|<b><span style="color: purple">Juliet</span></b>]]</sup> 22:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


*'''Ark''' Its jus the way things should be.--[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="red">'''ryan'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="blue">'''n'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="green">'''green'''</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="green">'''day'''</font>]] 21:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
*'''Ark''' Its jus the way things should be.--[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="red">'''ryan'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="blue">'''n'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="green">'''green'''</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="green">'''day'''</font>]] 21:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)''


:::'''Ark''' i don't think the "The" is neccessary. -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 04:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::'''Ark''' i don't think the "The" is neccessary. -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 04:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


::: I'd just like to bring up the quote from spiderman. He said "It's spiderman not the spiderman." [[User:Fork|Fork]] 23:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
::: I'd just like to bring up the quote from spiderman. He said "It's spiderman not the spiderman." [[User:Fork|Fork]] 23:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
*'''Ark''' - The is an adjective that doesn't belong in titles. If I am sereaching for the Master Chief or the Arbiter, I don't put halo.wikia.com/wiki/The_Arbiter, I just put  
*'''Ark''' - The is an adjective that doesn't belong in titles. If I am sereaching for the Master Chief or the Arbiter, I don't put halo.wikia.com/wiki/The_Arbiter, I just put
halo.wikia.com/wiki/Arbiter. You'll note that when we talk about the Master Chief or the Arbiter, we talk about '''t'''he Master Chief, not '''T'''he Master Chief. Its the same with the Ark. We talk about '''t'''he Ark not '''T'''he Ark.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|Brandon]]</sup> 04:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
halo.wikia.com/wiki/Arbiter. You'll note that when we talk about the Master Chief or the Arbiter, we talk about '''t'''he Master Chief, not '''T'''he Master Chief. Its the same with the Ark. We talk about '''t'''he Ark not '''T'''he Ark.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|Brandon]]</sup> 04:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


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== Similarity to structure on High Charity ==
== Similarity to structure on High Charity ==


Doesn't this structure that most assume is the Ark look just like a structure on High Charity? If you look at a picture of the entire city/planetoid of High Charity, you can see a similar-looking structure on the end opposite the broken half with the light/energy-spire. [[User:Whelk|Whelk]] 20:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't this structure that most assume is the Ark look just like a structure on High Charity? If you look at a picture of the entire city/planetoid of High Charity, you can see a similar-looking structure on the end opposite the broken half with the light/energy-spire. [[User:Whelk|Whelk]] 20:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


Yeah I have sceen something like that is the game way below the level High Charity. Odd.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 22:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I have sceen something like that is the game way below the level High Charity. Odd.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 22:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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== Time Gate ==
== Time Gate ==


Perhaps the Ark contains some means of time-travel, allowing the Forerunners to travel to the future where the Flood has been starved to death.  
Perhaps the Ark contains some means of time-travel, allowing the Forerunners to travel to the future where the Flood has been starved to death.


“This is how it all begins. Just in time to once again dance on the knife-edge of oblivion, to re-live what the Halos had hoped to destroy and more. For two enemies now stand where before there was only one. The fate we escaped a fate we may relive. I almost convinced myself that no one was listening, that the waves of the past had rolled through once again, but a chance remains to change the Universe anew. Learn of our past. Take these keys and dip from the wells of history. Perhaps there are others of us you may find how to save us all.”
“This is how it all begins. Just in time to once again dance on the knife-edge of oblivion, to re-live what the Halos had hoped to destroy and more. For two enemies now stand where before there was only one. The fate we escaped a fate we may relive. I almost convinced myself that no one was listening, that the waves of the past had rolled through once again, but a chance remains to change the Universe anew. Learn of our past. Take these keys and dip from the wells of history. Perhaps there are others of us you may find how to save us all.”
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We can learn guess the following: 1) Earth was beyond the line of the Halo's but the Forerunners thought it was uninhabited. There are secrets there that most be preserved. The inhabitants, humans, must be studied (meaning Forerunners are not humans). The Ark protected us, but it had another true purpose.<br />
We can learn guess the following: 1) Earth was beyond the line of the Halo's but the Forerunners thought it was uninhabited. There are secrets there that most be preserved. The inhabitants, humans, must be studied (meaning Forerunners are not humans). The Ark protected us, but it had another true purpose.<br />
My guess is Bungie is saying another Biblical references: The '''Ark''' saved us from the '''Flood'''. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 23:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
My guess is Bungie is saying another Biblical references: The '''Ark''' saved us from the '''Flood'''. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 23:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


I can see that. Thanx for the qoute. I just watched episode 5 for the like 6th time. [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 23:15, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I can see that. Thanx for the qoute. I just watched episode 5 for the like 6th time. [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 23:15, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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[[User:Spartan-118|Spartan-118]] 03:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
[[User:Spartan-118|Spartan-118]] 03:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 
 


===Pic interpetation===
===Pic interpetation===
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== The Ark's Core / The new Halo ==
== The Ark's Core / The new Halo ==


Later in Halo 3, we learn a new Halo is being built to replace Installation 04, and will be ready to fire in 3 days. We also learn from the map description of Construct that creating installations requires large amounts of resources - and so it would. Perhaps the Ark's core is the planet which was used to create the   "new" Halo?
Later in Halo 3, we learn a new Halo is being built to replace Installation 04, and will be ready to fire in 3 days. We also learn from the map description of Construct that creating installations requires large amounts of resources - and so it would. Perhaps the Ark's core is the planet which was used to create the "new" Halo?


But if this is the case... <br />
But if this is the case...<br />


1) Why is there only one of these planets, what if more than one of the installations were destroyed?<br />
1) Why is there only one of these planets, what if more than one of the installations were destroyed?<br />
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I'm curious about this one thing;
I'm curious about this one thing;


After retrieving the message from cortana from the flood controlled covenant ship on the floodgate level, she mensions in the following cutscene that there's a way on the Ark to defeat the flood without firing the halo rings. Yet, by the end of the game, this solution obviously wasn't realized when they fired the replacement 04.  
After retrieving the message from cortana from the flood controlled covenant ship on the floodgate level, she mensions in the following cutscene that there's a way on the Ark to defeat the flood without firing the halo rings. Yet, by the end of the game, this solution obviously wasn't realized when they fired the replacement 04.


So, what was it? Why didn't Cortana decide to use it?  
So, what was it? Why didn't Cortana decide to use it?


Sorry if this is something everyone but me knows, but I haven't found anything on this...
Sorry if this is something everyone but me knows, but I haven't found anything on this...
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Those are interesting points but i have no idea, it seems odd that bungie would add somthing like an alternative unless they planned for the Flood to return later and a new means of victory to be found. Any thoughts? --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] [[Image:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Black">Chat</span></b>]] or [[Special:Contributions/Climax_Viod|<b><span style="color: Silver">My Contributions </span></b>]]</sup>
Those are interesting points but i have no idea, it seems odd that bungie would add somthing like an alternative unless they planned for the Flood to return later and a new means of victory to be found. Any thoughts? --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] [[Image:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Black">Chat</span></b>]] or [[Special:Contributions/Climax_Viod|<b><span style="color: Silver">My Contributions </span></b>]]</sup>


I'd say when she said "remaining Halo rings" she meant the ones actually in the galaxy hat would kill ''us''. If I was her, I would've done the same, luring the Flood to the Ark to blow them up there. The appearance of a new Halo probably simplified the problem for Cortana. But if there ''is'' another way that didnt get used, then I'd be very interested how that gets dealt with... '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I'd say when she said "remaining Halo rings" she meant the ones actually in the galaxy hat would kill ''us''. If I was her, I would've done the same, luring the Flood to the Ark to blow them up there. The appearance of a new Halo probably simplified the problem for Cortana. But if there ''is'' another way that didnt get used, then I'd be very interested how that gets dealt with... '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


She might've had the intention to, after luring the Flood to Installation 00, keep the Flood contained there, while the humans/elites could retreat, and ultimately blow the Ark to hell. The emergence of Installation 04 (II) probably simplified things a lot... [[User:Blue Ninja|Blue Ninja]] 15:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
She might've had the intention to, after luring the Flood to Installation 00, keep the Flood contained there, while the humans/elites could retreat, and ultimately blow the Ark to hell. The emergence of Installation 04 (II) probably simplified things a lot... [[User:Blue Ninja|Blue Ninja]] 15:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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==Galaxy in the Sky==
==Galaxy in the Sky==


Please don't remove the "another galaxy." It is another galaxy - sure as hell that isnt the Milky Way, and if it was it would be far larger in proportion to the space it would take up. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Please don't remove the "another galaxy." It is another galaxy - sure as hell that isnt the Milky Way, and if it was it would be far larger in proportion to the space it would take up. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


-Not if you look at the dimensions. The milky way is ~100,000 light years across. If you're on 00 more than 200,000 light years away from the blast radius (3x galactic radai (which is 50,000 * 3 = 150,000 light years)) you're 350,000 LY away from the galaxy. This is enough to see the whole structure of the milky way galaxy as seen overhead in the level "the ark". Say it's the Milky Way, b/c it is. The marine is about to say that, when Johnson cuts him off.
-Not if you look at the dimensions. The milky way is ~100,000 light years across. If you're on 00 more than 200,000 light years away from the blast radius (3x galactic radai (which is 50,000 * 3 = 150,000 light years)) you're 350,000 LY away from the galaxy. This is enough to see the whole structure of the milky way galaxy as seen overhead in the level "the ark". Say it's the Milky Way, b/c it is. The marine is about to say that, when Johnson cuts him off.


*From what I saw, it wasn't the Milky Way. Not only was it further away than the real Milky Way should be, it also looks different. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
*From what I saw, it wasn't the Milky Way. Not only was it further away than the real Milky Way should be, it also looks different. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


*There was also the fact that you are NOT 350,000 lightyears away. You're 2000000000000000000 lightyears away. And galaxies are far larger than most people think; even as far as the Ark is, the Milky Way would be much larger in the sky. So therefore, it can't be the Milky Way. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 19:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
*There was also the fact that you are NOT 350,000 lightyears away. You're 2000000000000000000 lightyears away. And galaxies are far larger than most people think; even as far as the Ark is, the Milky Way would be much larger in the sky. So therefore, it can't be the Milky Way. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 19:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


**I have read many encyclopedic things about atsronomy and the all place the milky way at ~98,000-99,000 light-years across. some galexys dwarfe that but that is the rough size of the milky way
**I have read many encyclopedic things about atsronomy and the all place the milky way at ~98,000-99,000 light-years across. some galexys dwarfe that but that is the rough size of the milky way
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"When we fired halo we destroyed it, and '''AND DID A NUMBER ON THE ARK''' possibly meaning the ark WAS NOT destroyed! halo 4? June? CONNECTION 2 MARITHON? mor halo ins4 recreations? --[[User:66.38.66.107|66.38.66.107]] 01:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC) ([[User:Ptowery]])
"When we fired halo we destroyed it, and '''AND DID A NUMBER ON THE ARK''' possibly meaning the ark WAS NOT destroyed! halo 4? June? CONNECTION 2 MARITHON? mor halo ins4 recreations? --[[User:66.38.66.107|66.38.66.107]] 01:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC) ([[User:Ptowery]])


Nope. That's it for the Master Chief. There's [[Halo Wars]] and [[Halo: Chronicles]] in the works, but that's it for now. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Nope. That's it for the Master Chief. There's [[Halo Wars]] and [[Halo: Chronicles]] in the works, but that's it for now. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


Not quite, microsoft bought the rights to Halo, Bunjie always said there was going to be only 3 'Halo' games, but if you think  
Not quite, microsoft bought the rights to Halo, Bunjie always said there was going to be only 3 'Halo' games, but if you think  
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  [[User talk:Antony X1000|Antony X1000]] 09:51, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
  [[User talk:Antony X1000|Antony X1000]] 09:51, December 20, 2009 (UTC)


* I was just on Halo: Waypoint Word for word this is what it says.  
* I was just on Halo: Waypoint Word for word this is what it says.


: "As the Halo Installation fires, falling apart in the process, the survivors make their escape aboard a single human frigate, but not without cost. Though the Arbiter passes safely through the portal back to Earth, the Chief, and Cortana remain in the aft section of the vessel as the gateway suddenly closes."
: "As the Halo Installation fires, falling apart in the process, the survivors make their escape aboard a single human frigate, but not without cost. Though the Arbiter passes safely through the portal back to Earth, the Chief, and Cortana remain in the aft section of the vessel as the gateway suddenly closes."


It mentions nothing about the falling apart ring destroying the Ark. Further given the Ark's shear size I don't believe that the pieces of Installation 04 II could destroy it. Damage it yes, but not destroy it. As for the Halo effect, the cleansing blast the rings fire. In Halo: Legends we saw that it did no damage to anything, except The Flood, and all other Sentient Life not protected.--[[User talk:Subman758|Subman758]] 04:29, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
It mentions nothing about the falling apart ring destroying the Ark. Further given the Ark's shear size I don't believe that the pieces of Installation 04 II could destroy it. Damage it yes, but not destroy it. As for the Halo effect, the cleansing blast the rings fire. In Halo: Legends we saw that it did no damage to anything, except The Flood, and all other Sentient Life not protected.--[[User talk:Subman758|Subman758]] 04:29, March 9, 2010 (UTC)


==How could Cortana NOT know?==
==How could Cortana NOT know?==