Talk:MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor: Difference between revisions

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:I thought that they got the Mark VI parts from a secret weapons locker deep under the base. [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

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::I think it's Mark VI Because Halo 2 Takes course over a very, very, very short period of time so I don't think there would be enough time to even make a Mark VII! [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

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*Kurt- SPI Mark II

Cuz kelly wouldn't have recieved upgrades, (Dr. Halsey's fault) But Blue Team surely would have. The UNSC would have given Blue Team all the support they could have. Plus I think Kurt only had the Mark IV because it was his origional suit (I think anyway. forgive me if I am wrong) --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 02:56, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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*I think I read somewhere that some of the Spartans upgraded the Mk. V with some of the Mk. VI components like the helmet. I forgot where though. Can someone confirm? [[User:Leonidas-300|Leonidas-300]] 04:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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How come people like, let's say a [[Marine]], how come they don't wear MJOLNIR Armor?--[[User:SWME|SWME]] 14:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

*OK, I got my answer [[SPARTAN-II#MJOLNIR Armor|here]]. But this arises a new question; What was the reason regular humans died from wearing the armor? I don't see how.--[[User:SWME|SWME]] 21:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

::The reason they died was because the suit's mechanics amplifies the wearers reflexes...a LOT(10fold, 100fold???) and the movements are so fast that normal human bones that have not been reinforced cannot move that fast and wind up tearing/breaking limbs just from sheer velocity. If you read Halo:The Fall of Reach, you'll read somewhere that a marine tried wearing the suit, but the reflexes were so fast that he spasmed and broke his own back.(lovely=)...yeah...Peace. '''[[user:James-001|I'm O color=Tomato">n color=OrangeRed"> F color=Red">ire color=DarkRed">!</~~font~~>]]''' [[File:Unfreakinbelievable-2.jpg|30px]]''[[user talk:James-001|FeedTheFlame]]''''[[Special:Contributions/James-001|WatchMySmoke]]'' 00:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

::The reason they died was because the suit's mechanics amplifies the wearers reflexes...a LOT(10fold, 100fold???) and the movements are so fast that normal human bones that have not been reinforced cannot move that fast and wind up tearing/breaking limbs just from sheer velocity. If you read Halo:The Fall of Reach, you'll read somewhere that a marine tried wearing the suit, but the reflexes were so fast that he spasmed and broke his own back.(lovely=)...yeah...Peace. '''[[user:James-001|I'm O color=Tomato">n color=OrangeRed"> F color=Red">ire color=DarkRed">!]]''' [[File:Unfreakinbelievable-2.jpg|30px]]''[[user talk:James-001|FeedTheFlame]]''''[[Special:Contributions/James-001|WatchMySmoke]]'' 00:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks like a plain armor to me, it doesn't looks like half a ton.� ![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 01:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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<s>To be fair in this, I could say the same as you. as you force the american spelling I will force the Commonwealth spelling, but I've made a promise to overlook certain edit types. [[User:Sub-71|5ub]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|nova]][[User talk:Sub-71|Comm71]][[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|Intell]] 06:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)</s> - Nobody will force anything. Just leave it as is. '''[[User:HaloDude|Ti]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|'''ger''']][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|'''rr''']][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|'''rr''']] 22:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

<s>:I believe we had this argument back in November. We've come to this deduction:

<s>:I believe we had this argument back in November. We've come to this deduction: </s>

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::The promotional image for Halo Legends shows an EVA permutation for the Mark IV, and a helmet similar to the Mark VI. I don't see why there can't be a Mark V-esque helmet for the Mark IV. -- [[Halopedia:Administrators|Administrator]] [[User:Specops306|Specops306]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|Qur'a 'Morhek]]'' ''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|Honour Light Your Way!]]'' 09:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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fine. it was a lie, but. in halo legends in the episode: babysitter there is a pic of HW armor, and halo legends is being made by microsoft--[[Special:Contributions/58.107.129.103|58.107.129.103]] 09:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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Tell me what you think before shooting this idea down.

--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 15:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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=== Support ===

#{{Support}} - As per my reasoning above.--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 15:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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It would seem to fit given that the Spartan troops using the Mjolnir armor are essentially the hammers of order for humanity against the alien destruction/chaos.

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== Taking the Armour Off ==

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I'm just curious, could someone rationalize to me how exactly an energy shield powered by a small fusion reactor can be penetrated by a few 7.62 mm rounds (that are 20th century technology)? I've done a few random calculations (that I can repeat if anyone is interested) that suggest that even if the fusion pack used less than a hundredth of a gram of fuel per second at peak power and was like 50% efficient, it could still withstand an onslaught of the A-10's 30 mm gatling gun no problem. Any ideas here? [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 01:00, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

: The answer is game balance. In FoR MC takes several seconds of continuous pounding from 10 ODSTs firing 15 7.62mm rounds a second and his shields barely drop. Later, he wades through gatling gun sentries like they're not even there and takes a couple shots from a 50mm autocannon mounted on an attack jet with his shields only dropping by a quarter. In Contact Harvest, the only time brutes in power armor (with shields) die is when there's literaly 20 guys hosing them down at once. Overshields can take even that, but a warthog slamming into him at full speed, skidding for a bit, and then slamming him into a wall took it down. One brute (not a chieftai/subchieftain) in particular tanks a full mag (for some reason this version had a 60 round magazine) from a battle rifle while getting shot by 2 assault rifles (he was in a narrow corridor where it would be practically impossible to miss given that he was big even for a brute) and then tanks a mag from a magnum at point blank range. Nothing happens. [[User talk:Saitoh17|Saitoh17]] 19:34, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

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 :I thought that they got the Mark VI parts from a secret weapons locker deep under the base. [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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 ::I think it's Mark VI Because Halo 2 Takes course over a very, very, very short period of time so I don't think there would be enough time to even make a Mark VII! [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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 *Kurt- SPI Mark II
 Cuz kelly wouldn't have recieved upgrades, (Dr. Halsey's fault) But Blue Team surely would have. The UNSC would have given Blue Team all the support they could have. Plus I think Kurt only had the Mark IV because it was his origional suit (I think anyway. forgive me if I am wrong) --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 02:56, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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 *I think I read somewhere that some of the Spartans upgraded the Mk. V with some of the Mk. VI components like the helmet. I forgot where though. Can someone confirm? [[User:Leonidas-300|Leonidas-300]] 04:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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 How come people like, let's say a [[Marine]], how come they don't wear MJOLNIR Armor?--[[User:SWME|SWME]] 14:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 *OK, I got my answer [[SPARTAN-II#MJOLNIR Armor|here]]. But this arises a new question; What was the reason regular humans died from wearing the armor? I don't see how.--[[User:SWME|SWME]] 21:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
-::The reason they died was because the suit's mechanics amplifies the wearers reflexes...a LOT(10fold, 100fold???) and the movements are so fast that normal human bones that have not been reinforced cannot move that fast and wind up tearing/breaking limbs just from sheer velocity. If you read Halo:The Fall of Reach, you'll read somewhere that a marine tried wearing the suit, but the reflexes were so fast that he spasmed and broke his own back.(lovely=)...yeah...Peace. '''[[user:James-001|<font color=Yellow>I</font><font color=Gold>'</font><font color=Orange>m</font><font color=DarkOrange> O</font><font <span _rte_entity=> color=Tomato">n</font><font      <span _rte_entity=> color=OrangeRed"> F</font><font <span _rte_entity=> color=Red">i</font><font color=Crimson>r</font><font color=FireBrick>e</font><font <span _rte_entity=> color=DarkRed">!</font>]]''' [[File:Unfreakinbelievable-2.jpg|30px]]<sup>''[[user talk:James-001|<font color=Red>FeedTheFlame</font>]]''</sup><sub>''[[Special:Contributions/James-001|<font color=Gainsboro>Wa</font><font color=LightGrey>tc</font><font color=Silver>hM</font><font color=DarkGray>yS</font><font color=Gray>mo</font><font color=DimGray>ke</font>]]''</sub> 00:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
+::The reason they died was because the suit's mechanics amplifies the wearers reflexes...a LOT(10fold, 100fold???) and the movements are so fast that normal human bones that have not been reinforced cannot move that fast and wind up tearing/breaking limbs just from sheer velocity. If you read Halo:The Fall of Reach, you'll read somewhere that a marine tried wearing the suit, but the reflexes were so fast that he spasmed and broke his own back.(lovely=)...yeah...Peace. '''[[user:James-001|<font color=Yellow>I</font><font color=Gold>'</font><font color=Orange>m</font><font color=DarkOrange> O</font>&lt;font <span _rte_entity=> color=Tomato"&gt;n&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font <span _rte_entity=> color=OrangeRed"&gt; F&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font <span _rte_entity=> color=Red"&gt;i&lt;/font&gt;<font color=Crimson>r</font><font color=FireBrick>e</font>&lt;font <span _rte_entity=> color=DarkRed"&gt;!&lt;/font&gt;</span></span></span></span>]]''' [[File:Unfreakinbelievable-2.jpg|30px]]<sup>''[[user talk:James-001|<font color=Red>FeedTheFlame</font>]]''</sup><sub>''[[Special:Contributions/James-001|<font color=Gainsboro>Wa</font><font color=LightGrey>tc</font><font color=Silver>hM</font><font color=DarkGray>yS</font><font color=Gray>mo</font><font color=DimGray>ke</font>]]''</sub> 00:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 It looks like a plain armor to me, it doesn't looks like half a ton.� ![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 01:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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 <s>To be fair in this, I could say the same as you. as you force the american spelling I will force the Commonwealth spelling, but I've made a promise to overlook certain edit types. [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">nova</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="CornflowerBlue">Intell</font>]]</sub> 06:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)</s> - Nobody will force anything. Just leave it as is. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 22:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
-<s>:I believe we had this argument back in November. We've come to this deduction:
+<s>:I believe we had this argument back in November. We've come to this deduction: </s>
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 ::The promotional image for Halo Legends shows an EVA permutation for the Mark IV, and a helmet similar to the Mark VI. I don't see why there can't be a Mark V-esque helmet for the Mark IV. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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 fine. it was a lie, but. in halo legends in the episode: babysitter there is a pic of HW armor, and halo legends is being made by microsoft--[[Special:Contributions/58.107.129.103|58.107.129.103]] 09:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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 Tell me what you think before shooting this idea down.
 --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 15:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
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 === Support ===
 #{{Support}} - As per my reasoning above.--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 15:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
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 It would seem to fit given that the Spartan troops using the Mjolnir armor are essentially the hammers of order for humanity against the alien destruction/chaos.
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 == Taking the Armour Off ==
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 I'm just curious, could someone rationalize to me how exactly an energy shield powered by a small fusion reactor can be penetrated by a few 7.62 mm rounds (that are 20th century technology)? I've done a few random calculations (that I can repeat if anyone is interested) that suggest that even if the fusion pack used less than a hundredth of a gram of fuel per second at peak power and was like 50% efficient, it could still withstand an onslaught of the A-10's 30 mm gatling gun no problem. Any ideas here? [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 01:00, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
+: The answer is game balance. In FoR MC takes several seconds of continuous pounding from 10 ODSTs firing 15 7.62mm rounds a second and his shields barely drop. Later, he wades through gatling gun sentries like they're not even there and takes a couple shots from a 50mm autocannon mounted on an attack jet with his shields only dropping by a quarter. In Contact Harvest, the only time brutes in power armor (with shields) die is when there's literaly 20 guys hosing them down at once. Overshields can take even that, but a warthog slamming into him at full speed, skidding for a bit, and then slamming him into a wall took it down. One brute (not a chieftai/subchieftain) in particular tanks a full mag (for some reason this version had a 60 round magazine) from a battle rifle while getting shot by 2 assault rifles (he was in a narrow corridor where it would be practically impossible to miss given that he was big even for a brute) and then tanks a mag from a magnum at point blank range. Nothing happens. [[User talk:Saitoh17|Saitoh17]] 19:34, August 31, 2010 (UTC)