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:::::That being said, the real oddity is the timestamp; it goes from 08:14 all the way to John at 09:01, and then starts over again at 08:03, despite the fact that each row is marked as being taken on December 7, 2517. [[User:What username?|What username?]] ([[User talk:What username?|talk]]) 02:33, 7 April 2015 (EDT)

::::::All very valid points. Many of those names could be both surnames as well as given names, it's true. But let us consider the name as a whole... For example:

::::::*'''Hedegaard''' is still used today as a Danish surname, but it has also been used elsewhere on the Scandinavian Peninsula as a given name, though its use has declined considerably in the last century or so. My great grandfather & his twin sister were Swedish & were rather unglamorously named Hubert & Hedegard which, in retrospect, is probably why she preferred being called "Hedy". Fortunately, that naming practice was left behind in the Old Country... '''Rolla''', on the other hand, is an Italian surname.

::::::*'''Costa''' is indeed a Romantic surname, but it is also a Greek derivative of ''Constantine'' or ''Konstantinos'' and, while '''Betty''' is widely considered a given name, it is in fact a shortened form of ''Elizabeth'' and is almost never used as a birth name in and of itself.

::::::*'''Marcelo''' is a Spanish or Portuguese male given name, but it must also be noted that '''Venera''' is an Italian female given name, derived from the goddess Venus.

::::::*Likewise, while '''Lori''' is a very popular female given name in the United States (derived from ''Laura'' or its corrupted form ''Laurie''), it is less commonly used as a surname in the US than in other countries such as Italy or France. Bearing that in mind, '''Gastone''' is an Italian male given name for which ''Lori'' could easily be used as a surname.

::::::*'''Eyob''' has been used as both a surname as well as a given name throughout the Ethiopian/Eritrean region, however '''Kisanet''' is listed as a female given name in that region and does not appear anywhere as a surname.

::::::*'''Callum''' and '''Conrad''' are indeed interchangeable, however, '''Alder''' and '''Brillantes''' are almost exclusively surnames (with the notable exception of Filipino director ''Brillante Mendoza''), and so can reasonably be expected to be listed as such in this case.

::::::*'''Gara''' is an Azerbaijani given name, but throughout most of the rest of the world, from Hungary to Poland, Ireland, Canada and even Alaska, it's a surname. '''Kiss''' could be used as a given name in this case, in much the way that '''Thin''' was used in the "I Love Bees" ARG.

::::::In summary, you are correct that many of the names on that list could be taken as either surnames of given names, however, I believe a suitably convincing case could be made for their being listed in FIRST/LAST order with the exception of John's. As for the timestamp, you're right... That also sticks out like a sore thumb. [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:58, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

:RE Ellie: My impression was that she moved to another city/neighborhood and lost contact with him sometime before the kidnapping (she mentions that she wasn't allowed to use Waypoint as a kid), and just had a really good memory. [[User:What username?|What username?]] ([[User talk:What username?|talk]]) 13:46, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

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 :::::That being said, the real oddity is the timestamp; it goes from 08:14 all the way to John at 09:01, and then starts over again at 08:03, despite the fact that each row is marked as being taken on December 7, 2517. [[User:What username?|What username?]] ([[User talk:What username?|talk]]) 02:33, 7 April 2015 (EDT)
+::::::All very valid points. Many of those names could be both surnames as well as given names, it's true. But let us consider the name as a whole... For example:
+::::::*'''Hedegaard''' is still used today as a Danish surname, but it has also been used elsewhere on the Scandinavian Peninsula as a given name, though its use has declined considerably in the last century or so. My great grandfather & his twin sister were Swedish & were rather unglamorously named Hubert & Hedegard which, in retrospect, is probably why she preferred being called "Hedy". Fortunately, that naming practice was left behind in the Old Country... '''Rolla''', on the other hand, is an Italian surname.
+::::::*'''Costa''' is indeed a Romantic surname, but it is also a Greek derivative of ''Constantine'' or ''Konstantinos'' and, while '''Betty''' is widely considered a given name, it is in fact a shortened form of ''Elizabeth'' and is almost never used as a birth name in and of itself.
+::::::*'''Marcelo''' is a Spanish or Portuguese male given name, but it must also be noted that '''Venera''' is an Italian female given name, derived from the goddess Venus.
+::::::*Likewise, while '''Lori''' is a very popular female given name in the United States (derived from ''Laura'' or its corrupted form ''Laurie''), it is less commonly used as a surname in the US than in other countries such as Italy or France. Bearing that in mind, '''Gastone''' is an Italian male given name for which ''Lori'' could easily be used as a surname.
+::::::*'''Eyob''' has been used as both a surname as well as a given name throughout the Ethiopian/Eritrean region, however '''Kisanet''' is listed as a female given name in that region and does not appear anywhere as a surname.
+::::::*'''Callum''' and '''Conrad''' are indeed interchangeable, however, '''Alder''' and '''Brillantes''' are almost exclusively surnames (with the notable exception of Filipino director ''Brillante Mendoza''), and so can reasonably be expected to be listed as such in this case.
+::::::*'''Gara''' is an Azerbaijani given name, but throughout most of the rest of the world, from Hungary to Poland, Ireland, Canada and even Alaska, it's a surname. '''Kiss''' could be used as a given name in this case, in much the way that '''Thin''' was used in the "I Love Bees" ARG.
+::::::In summary, you are correct that many of the names on that list could be taken as either surnames of given names, however, I believe a suitably convincing case could be made for their being listed in FIRST/LAST order with the exception of John's. As for the timestamp, you're right... That also sticks out like a sore thumb. [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:58, 8 April 2015 (EDT)
 :RE Ellie: My impression was that she moved to another city/neighborhood and lost contact with him sometime before the kidnapping (she mentions that she wasn't allowed to use Waypoint as a kid), and just had a really good memory. [[User:What username?|What username?]] ([[User talk:What username?|talk]]) 13:46, 30 March 2015 (EDT)