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==Rank as of Halo 4==
==Rank as of Halo 4==
So we know that [[:File:FUD Post-war Lasky cropped.jpg|the Lasky who appeared in the end of the trailer]] is a Major. However, throughout the Halo 4 panel during RTX, 343i employees refer to him as "Commander Lasky". Is it a mistake in the prop makers, or the 343i employees? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 02:56, 17 July 2012 (EDT)
So we know that [[:File:FUD Post-war Lasky cropped.jpg|the Lasky who appeared in the end of the trailer]] is a Major. However, throughout the Halo 4 panel during RTX, 343i employees refer to him as "Commander Lasky". Is it a mistake in the prop makers, or the 343i employees? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 02:56, 17 July 2012 (EDT)
:It doesn't state anywhere that he's a Marine Major. While the gold oak leaf would suggest that, Lasky wears the exact same set of insignia that Commander Miranda Keyes wore on her uniform in ''Halo 3''. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
:It doesn't state anywhere that he's a Marine Major. While the gold oak leaf would suggest that, Lasky wears the exact same set of insignia that Commander Miranda Keyes wore on her uniform in ''Halo 3''. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}


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::However, do note that Catalog said "Reference visual representation is [pro tem]" (placeholder), implying that the model we see in the ViDoc (the "reference visual representation") is a work in progress. I can't really see why Catalog would've otherwise made that post than to clarify that the Admiral bars in the ViDoc are a mistake. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:45, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
::However, do note that Catalog said "Reference visual representation is [pro tem]" (placeholder), implying that the model we see in the ViDoc (the "reference visual representation") is a work in progress. I can't really see why Catalog would've otherwise made that post than to clarify that the Admiral bars in the ViDoc are a mistake. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:45, 17 July 2015 (EDT)


:::Given that Infinity is a self-contained flotilla, a Senior Captain is the minimum rank I would expect to command Infinity, and making him an Admiral wouldn't be inappropriate since it is ''also'' the UNSC flagship. It is possible that 343 may change this before release. I hope they don't. But until then, I think we have to assume that he's an Admiral until the final copy contradicts it. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:19, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
:::Given that Infinity is a self-contained flotilla, a Senior Captain is the minimum rank I would expect to command Infinity, and making him an Admiral wouldn't be inappropriate since it is ''also'' the UNSC flagship. It is possible that 343 may change this before release. I hope they don't. But until then, I think we have to assume that he's an Admiral until the final copy contradicts it. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:19, 17 July 2015 (EDT)


Doesn't Catalog contradict that? [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 05:11, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
Doesn't Catalog contradict that? [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 05:11, 17 July 2015 (EDT)


:Catalog's canonity has always been a weird subject. We've taken its statements as unquestioned canon. But even here, what it's essentially said is that it may not be canon in the final game. At the moment, we have no idea whether it will change or stay the same, but the ViDoc represents the game as it exists during development. I doubt someone would have given him Admirals bars without thinking it through. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:19, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
:Catalog's canonity has always been a weird subject. We've taken its statements as unquestioned canon. But even here, what it's essentially said is that it may not be canon in the final game. At the moment, we have no idea whether it will change or stay the same, but the ViDoc represents the game as it exists during development. I doubt someone would have given him Admirals bars without thinking it through. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:19, 17 July 2015 (EDT)


::Then again, it would also strike me as odd that Catalog would come out and clarify his rank if whoever's behind the account wasn't certain of the matter. Catalog leaves a ton of questions unanswered so this appears to me more like something that really is a mistake that they intend to fix. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 08:34, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
::Then again, it would also strike me as odd that Catalog would come out and clarify his rank if whoever's behind the account wasn't certain of the matter. Catalog leaves a ton of questions unanswered so this appears to me more like something that really is a mistake that they intend to fix. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 08:34, 17 July 2015 (EDT)


If anyone is still arguing about whether or not he is an Admiral or not check this picture that shows his Captain-ness.[[File:Fiend2.png|250px]] [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 04:56, 1 September 2015 (EDT)
If anyone is still arguing about whether or not he is an Admiral or not check this picture that shows his Captain-ness.[[File:Fiend2.png]] p.s I have no idea how to scale down the image.[[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 04:56, 1 September 2015 (EDT)
 
:Yeah, that was one of the things I was really looking out for. I'm glad we finally got an answer. btw fixed that for ya :D -- [[User:Topal the Pilot|'''Topal the Pilot''']] [[File:Blueteam.png|20px]] <small>([[User talk:Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Talk'''</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Contribs'''</span>]])</small> 05:11, 1 September 2015 (EDT)
 
Thank you for that. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 05:14, 1 September 2015 (EDT)
 
== Hold it! ==
 
This article states that John-117 fought a Mgalekgolo during the battle while escorting the cadets, and gave a shard of its armor to Thomas Lasky. This directly contradicts The Fall of Reach, which contains numerous lines of dialogue that implies that John had never seen Hunters before going to Cote d'Azur.
 
This is a major lore contradiction, and it's impossible to ignore. I propose we add it to this article's trivia section! *points finger like Phoenix Wright*{{Unsigned|GoodMudkip}}
:The original 2001 run of TFOR presents many Covenant species as first being encountered in 2552 (Elites and Engineers being another example). This has largely been completely ignored since, and such lines were removed or altered in subsequent print runs. As such, this is no longer a stance accepted as canon by 343 and thus no longer inconsistent.[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 20:16, February 4, 2022 (EST)
::I see, thanks for clearing that up.[[User:GoodMudkip|GoodMudkip]] ([[User talk:GoodMudkip|talk]]) 12:11, February 18, 2022 (EST)

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