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==Calibre== | ==Calibre== | ||
What caliber is an SMG? Also i need calibers for the sniper rifle and the Assault Rifle, as well as the pistol. Any one of these would be good , thanks --[[User:Honored Sangheili|Honored Sangheili]] 20:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | What caliber is an SMG? Also i need calibers for the sniper rifle and the Assault Rifle, as well as the pistol. Any one of these would be good , thanks --[[User:Honored Sangheili|Honored Sangheili]] 20:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Wouldn't it be more likely that the charging handle is attached to an ejection port like on a SIG 552? [[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 12:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC) | Wouldn't it be more likely that the charging handle is attached to an ejection port like on a SIG 552? [[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 12:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:It uses CASELESS ammo, it cannot jam. {{Unsigned|Ketsumaye | :It uses CASELESS ammo, it cannot jam. {{Unsigned|Ketsumaye) | ||
:if you need to empty the gun and you cant extract the round from the chamber, that could be a be a problem[[User talk:Thedeerhunter|Thedeerhunter]] 13:23, September 7, 2010 (UTC) | :if you need to empty the gun and you cant extract the round from the chamber, that could be a be a problem[[User talk:Thedeerhunter|Thedeerhunter]] 13:23, September 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Well, i think NOBODY here has ever fired a weapon that uses caseless ammo, but i know it tends to "cook off" because of the high temperatures in the chamber.[[User talk:Ketsumaye|Ketsumaye]] 03:43, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | Well, i think NOBODY here has ever fired a weapon that uses caseless ammo, but i know it tends to "cook off" because of the high temperatures in the chamber.[[User talk:Ketsumaye|Ketsumaye]] 03:43, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Actual use of the smg== | == Actual use of the smg == | ||
What I do not understand is how the SMG fits into any logical military organization. If the MA5 Is the primary weapon and the battle rifle is used as a DMR on a fire-team level, why is the SMG carried by so many regular marines (I am not talking about odsts or vehicle crews, just "line" units) Perhaps an assault/flanking team to be used in conjunction with a covering fire team? ideas? | What I do not understand is how the SMG fits into any logical military organization. If the MA5 Is the primary weapon and the battle rifle is used as a DMR on a fire-team level, why is the SMG carried by so many regular marines (I am not talking about odsts or vehicle crews, just "line" units) Perhaps an assault/flanking team to be used in conjunction with a covering fire team? ideas? | ||
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:: As far as damage, I have been shot with a .22 on several occasions, once through a lung no less, and I didn't even need medical attention. Assuming it doesn't hit any vital organ or major blood vessel (and a through&through) a .22 should take 6-12 rounds to kill a human target, (.3-.6 seconds of sustained fire on-target) and even then it would take a while. Even with rounds through a lung a second or possibly even a third shot is neccesary. Unless it hits the heart or cerebellum, a single .22 simply isn't enough, and the cerebellum is a tiny target. Since the 5*23 leaves a smaller hole, it would be even less damaging. Try about 8-15 rounds. (.5-1 second of sustained fire on-target) With rounds through the lung, still expect to place up to 4. That's too many rounds over too much time. If a weapon can't reliably kill your target in one shot centre-mass it isn't a good weapon, and if it takes more than a split second of fire to reliably inflict lethal damage it isn't worth using. [[User talk:Avianmosquito|Avianmosquito]] 02:38, February 10, 2010 (UTC) | :: As far as damage, I have been shot with a .22 on several occasions, once through a lung no less, and I didn't even need medical attention. Assuming it doesn't hit any vital organ or major blood vessel (and a through&through) a .22 should take 6-12 rounds to kill a human target, (.3-.6 seconds of sustained fire on-target) and even then it would take a while. Even with rounds through a lung a second or possibly even a third shot is neccesary. Unless it hits the heart or cerebellum, a single .22 simply isn't enough, and the cerebellum is a tiny target. Since the 5*23 leaves a smaller hole, it would be even less damaging. Try about 8-15 rounds. (.5-1 second of sustained fire on-target) With rounds through the lung, still expect to place up to 4. That's too many rounds over too much time. If a weapon can't reliably kill your target in one shot centre-mass it isn't a good weapon, and if it takes more than a split second of fire to reliably inflict lethal damage it isn't worth using. [[User talk:Avianmosquito|Avianmosquito]] 02:38, February 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Or maybe the reason Bungie did this had something to do with balancing the gun for gameplay uses, making it just a bit harder to use so that it wasn't overpowered when dual wielded. And after all, if they really wanted to make recoil accurate, they'd make the Sniper rifle jump quite a bit, or make you stagger back when you fired a rocket launcher. | :::Or maybe the reason Bungie did this had something to do with balancing the gun for gameplay uses, making it just a bit harder to use so that it wasn't overpowered when dual wielded. And after all, if they really wanted to make recoil accurate, they'd make the Sniper rifle jump quite a bit, or make you stagger back when you fired a rocket launcher. {{Signature/Ghost_sangheili}} | ||
:: Actually, the rocket launcher should have fairly little recoil, its design neccesitates it being recoilless. All you should feel is a sudden shift in balance when the weapon is fired. [[Special:Contributions/24.19.165.153|24.19.165.153]] 03:15, February 10, 2010 (UTC) | :: Actually, the rocket launcher should have fairly little recoil, its design neccesitates it being recoilless. All you should feel is a sudden shift in balance when the weapon is fired. [[Special:Contributions/24.19.165.153|24.19.165.153]] 03:15, February 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Inclusion in Halo 4 == | == Inclusion in Halo 4 == | ||
In [[Awakening: The Art of Halo 4]], the SMG appears in the UNSC Weapon Section. It is drawn up and modeled in Halo 4 style, shouldn't it be listed as deleted content?--[[User:Squireyoung|Squireyoung]] ([[User talk:Squireyoung|talk]]) 11:41, 27 February 2013 (EST) | In [[Awakening: The Art of Halo 4]], the SMG appears in the UNSC Weapon Section. It is drawn up and modeled in Halo 4 style, shouldn't it be listed as deleted content?--[[User:Squireyoung|Squireyoung]] ([[User talk:Squireyoung|talk]]) 11:41, 27 February 2013 (EST) | ||