Editing Talk:Keiichi-047

==Keiichi non-canon?==
Is it possible Keiichi is non-canon? There have been no references to him other than the site where we get the details for this article, and is it possible that site is like the Believe Ads, and not fully canon, but a marketing venture made by mircosoft or a group without access to story information?

[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 15:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

:I had the same thought...-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 16:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
::The character is canon. If you move your crosshare over the SPARTAN...a tag reads out the name and affiliation. Also, the Believe ads were made by Microsoft and were shown on a Microsoft site.[[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 16:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No, he is not. Unless he was part of Team Omega in the fifth mission. The only other SPARTANS in Halo Wars are Alice, Jerome, and Douglas. Also, no SPARTANS were on Harvest in the campaign. {{Signatures/Joem25}} 16:27, 14 March 2009 (UTC) 
::::I agree with Spartan 501, Subtank and Joem25, it seems like just a advertising method to showcase Spartan gameplay in Halo Wars. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 14:31, 4 June 2009 (GMT)


This is in game? I don't trust that site.

[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 19:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

If we follow the information culled from the Xbox site, then the Keiichi reference likely occurs, as would the unnamed Spartan reference, sometime during the "5 Long Years" and the retaking of Harvest from The Covenant. Problems with this include that Serina tells him to see Professor Anders when he returns to the ship meaning that it would have to be on the current mission unless there's another Anders we don't know about <s>as well as the fact that Keichii was already on Arcadia and engaging Covenant ground forces when the SoF arrived. Keiichi appears in-game on Arcadia in Mission 4 as one of the Spartans protecting the transports. If you select each of the Spartans in that level you will see their names. Keiichi is one of them. </s>He does not appear in Level 5, where Jerome, Alice and Douglas escort Forge and the survivors out of the city. --[[User talk:Avatar of Chaos|Avatar of Chaos]] 12:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:I've combed back through 3 versions of the game. The initial unpatched retail version, the 1st patch version and the newest patched version from last month. I cannot find Keiichi so I'm going to have to retract my statement regarding him being in Mission 4. --[[User talk:Avatar of Chaos|Avatar of Chaos]] 13:21, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Wait ==
The picture in Jerome's article is not his. It's Keiichi's. The Halo Wars site even supports this fact. So, why is Keiichi's picture in Jerome's article? -''- El Tweako''

:Interesting point, if the background of Jerome's article portrait is Harvest then perhaps it is Keiichi and they just have (confusingly) similarly customized armour. Its too vague to distinguish though, perhaps other users could help decide. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 14:31, 4 June 2009 (GMT)

:The picture is of Jerome. I was watching a video that I made using cutscenes from Halo Wars and when I got to the Monstors part of it, it shows Jerome trying to aim his shotgun when a Elite grabs it. Jerome then pushes the Elite away and then I relize that the moment the Elite goes off-screen that that was the picture we have on Jerome's page.[[User talk:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] 02:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

::The picture is of keiichi for three reasons. One. Wheres the red markings that jerome has, two. Jerome isnt the only red team member to use a shotgun, seeing how alice and douglas as seen in halo wars 1 cover and halo wars 2 cutscene, and three. The fact that the background itself is more of a human made element instead of the forerunner like area that thr battle of Etran Harborage would show.-[[User Talk:Fred LTJG S104]]

:::The image was 100% just a reused image of one of red team at the Apex site in Halo Wars 1.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 14:39, 10 January 2019 (EST)

==Gender==
Wait, the article lists him as male, but do we have any confirmation of this? How do we know Keiichi is male (is it a male name?). Any clarification would be appreciated,

[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 06:20, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

:According to [http://www.gpeters.com/names/baby-names.php?name=Keiichi this] Keiichi is 1.4 times more likely to be a male name than a female name. However, I would like confirmation that he is male or female as well. --[[User:Maslab|Do not insult me.]] 09:02, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

==Source ?==
The “Wraith hijacking” part is absent from the [http://w11.zetaboards.com/Halo_Archive/topic/8803439/1/#new CIA391 transcript] of the Launch Site. Is the info wrong or the transcript lacking this part ?  [[Special:Contributions/81.53.11.29|81.53.11.29]] 08:09, 19 January 2014 (EST)

:I distinctly remember that vignette from the site. The transcript must be incomplete. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 17:15, 19 January 2014 (EST)

CIA391 here saying that this part is there in the transcript
Just near the end. Keiichi is saying the neural interfaces are bad and Serina says to get Anders to fix it. The text about Keiichi never said what he hijacked (aka this means no reference of a wraith)  I made sure I put every piece of writing into that transcript, and I remember all of this site as well. Nothing was missed(I was notified to tell you guys this, because the Keiichi quote was there){{Unsigned|CIA390}}

:If I recall correctly, the hijacking did took place. It is part of the animation/video(?) and not part of the text. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:13, 9 April 2014 (EDT)
Yeah it was a background video/animation using in game models and what not. Almost every piece of text on the site had a small video to go with it.[[User:10of13|10of13]] ([[User talk:10of13|talk]]) 18:34, 20 July 2014 (EDT)

==Ranks and history==
Regarding Spartan-II's in general, we only know of very few who are confirmed to have been part of the original wave of Spartan-II's who survived the augs. (we can probably make a list of those actually and organize stuff better) 

Red team for example were Washouts and thus we do not know their "initial" rank when they finally graduated. Its the same issue as the Spartan-III's in general. Hence us being really really careful who we give ranks too. Many including Keiichi-047 "could" have been a washout but was rehabilitated back into a Spartan.

The tldr version is, to much assumptions sadly for us to know all that history for Keiichi and several other Spartan-IIs-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 16:24, 23 January 2019 (EST)