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== Spoilers? ==
== Spoilers? ==


Someone posted a quote from the leaked Tsavo Highway. Fortunately, he got it too garbled to make heads or tails of it, so it doesnt reveal anything unless you speak fluent N00B. File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 07:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone posted a quote from the leaked Tsavo Highway. Fortunately, he got it too garbled to make heads or tails of it, so it doesnt reveal anything unless you speak fluent N00B. [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 07:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


Well if the leaked video is true, and it sure looks legitiment, then the Truth dies. But really, who would be surprised at that.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 22:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Well if the leaked video is true, and it sure looks legitiment, then the Truth dies. But really, who would be surprised at that.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 22:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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== Lol ==
== Lol ==


I tried corpse-humping the Prophets dead body as a sign of my contempt - after a few, the character model pushed the body through the floor, intot he shallow basin underneath the activation pedastal - a fitting grave, don't you think? '''Honour Light Your Way - '''File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 23:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I tried corpse-humping the Prophets dead body as a sign of my contempt - after a few, the character model pushed the body through the floor, intot he shallow basin underneath the activation pedastal - a fitting grave, don't you think? '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 23:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


== Forerunner Crystal ==
== Forerunner Crystal ==
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== quote ==
== quote ==


I changed the quote to one more appropriate for him. Not a Halo 3 quote, perhaps, but it sums him up in one sentence. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I changed the quote to one more appropriate for him. Not a Halo 3 quote, perhaps, but it sums him up in one sentence. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


==Image weirdness==
==Image weirdness==
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If you look at the picture there, you can't even tell what's going on. Can we get a better picture there or something? Thanks!
If you look at the picture there, you can't even tell what's going on. Can we get a better picture there or something? Thanks!


*First of all, the pics are fine. they are only better versions of the former pics. So dont dis the pics., Also in Trivia we should add that Truth wore Blue robes when he first became a Hierarch.[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|AllSpark Quest]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>File:ProphetofRegret.jpg|30px]] 02:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
*First of all, the pics are fine. they are only better versions of the former pics. So dont dis the pics., Also in Trivia we should add that Truth wore Blue robes when he first became a Hierarch.[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|AllSpark Quest]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:ProphetofRegret.jpg|30px]] 02:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


== Template Image ==
== Template Image ==


Should we not update the template image as it is circa [[Halo 2]], even though [[Halo 3]] is already out? I think we should as he would look more modern.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] File:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 13:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Should we not update the template image as it is circa [[Halo 2]], even though [[Halo 3]] is already out? I think we should as he would look more modern.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] [[Image:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 13:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


== Truth's Age ==
== Truth's Age ==
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I would like to note [[Truth|the traitourus son of a bitches]] last words to Mercy "the great journey waits for noone BROTHER, not even you" could this mean that Mercy is truths (much) older brother? or is he just being poetic? probobly the second but just putting the possibility in eeryones mind. Gunnery-sergeant [[User talk:Maiar|Maiar]] 08:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I would like to note [[Truth|the traitourus son of a bitches]] last words to Mercy "the great journey waits for noone BROTHER, not even you" could this mean that Mercy is truths (much) older brother? or is he just being poetic? probobly the second but just putting the possibility in eeryones mind. Gunnery-sergeant [[User talk:Maiar|Maiar]] 08:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


The Prophets simply refer to each other as "brother" at all times --[[halowikia:User:Lordofmonsterisland|Lord of SPARTANs]]<sub>[[wikia:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">LOMI HQ</font>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sub><br />15:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
The Prophets simply refer to each other as "brother" at all times --[[w:c:halo:User:Lordofmonsterisland|Lord of SPARTANs]]<sub>[[w:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">LOMI HQ</font>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sub><br />15:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


The Prophets are religious as well as political leaders of the Covenant - it is likely 'Brother' in the same way that monks refer to each other as brother, and nuns as sister. Chief monks/priests and nuns are referred to as Father/Mother respectively.[[User talk:Thebigyeash|Thebigyeash]] 18:58, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
The Prophets are religious as well as political leaders of the Covenant - it is likely 'Brother' in the same way that monks refer to each other as brother, and nuns as sister. Chief monks/priests and nuns are referred to as Father/Mother respectively.[[User talk:Thebigyeash|Thebigyeash]] 18:58, August 30, 2010 (UTC)


==Why is there no quotes sub-page?==
==Why is there no quotes sub-page?==
I've noticed something: while many of the major (and some minor) characters have a sub-page designated for quotes, Truth is lacking in this area. Why is that? This must be remedied at once! --[[halowikia:User:Lordofmonsterisland|Lord of SPARTANs]]<sub>[[wikia:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">LOMI HQ</font>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sub><br /> 15:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed something: while many of the major (and some minor) characters have a sub-page designated for quotes, Truth is lacking in this area. Why is that? This must be remedied at once! --[[w:c:halo:User:Lordofmonsterisland|Lord of SPARTANs]]<sub>[[w:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">LOMI HQ</font>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sub><br /> 15:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


==How was he infected?==
==How was he infected?==
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:::*Arby finishes chatting, and decides to politely end the conversation. [[Energy Sword|Sangheili]]-style. 'Cause that's just how he rolls.
:::*Arby finishes chatting, and decides to politely end the conversation. [[Energy Sword|Sangheili]]-style. 'Cause that's just how he rolls.
:::*As Truth gets impaled [[Wikipedia:All your base are belong to us|for great justice]], we hear [[Flood Infection Form|a small squeal]]...
:::*As Truth gets impaled [[Wikipedia:All your base are belong to us|for great justice]], we hear [[Flood Infection Form|a small squeal]]...
:::And ''that's'' how it all went down. Truth was infected normally. He was facehugged by an Infection Form, just like any other Covie. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 05:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
:::And ''that's'' how it all went down. Truth was infected normally. He was facehugged by an Infection Form, just like any other Covie. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 05:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC)


Even though Truth was seen becoming infected, where was the Infection form? It didn't appear anywhere on his body. Maybe he managed to take in a [[Flood spore|spore]] when he fled High Charity that acted like a "sleeper agent" until moments before his death? --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 10:30, 2 December 2011 (EST)
Even though Truth was seen becoming infected, where was the Infection form? It didn't appear anywhere on his body. Maybe he managed to take in a [[Flood spore|spore]] when he fled High Charity that acted like a "sleeper agent" until moments before his death? --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 10:30, 2 December 2011 (EST)
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I'm curious if this line might actually refer to the power over life in the galaxy that the Ark would have given him rather than anything having to do with the Great Journey. I mean, he could wipe out nearly all who oppose him and possibly reseed the galaxy. Even if he had somehow come to believe his own lies, he couldn't really expect to be taken on the Great Journey, when the Ark is well out of range of the Halos.--[[User talk:Darth Oblivion|Darth Oblivion]] 15:58, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
I'm curious if this line might actually refer to the power over life in the galaxy that the Ark would have given him rather than anything having to do with the Great Journey. I mean, he could wipe out nearly all who oppose him and possibly reseed the galaxy. Even if he had somehow come to believe his own lies, he couldn't really expect to be taken on the Great Journey, when the Ark is well out of range of the Halos.--[[User talk:Darth Oblivion|Darth Oblivion]] 15:58, 10 July 2011 (EDT)


:I'd like to think he was hinging his bets - if Halo really did kill everything else off, then he'd be left as a virtual "god" of an empty galaxy. But really, the Halo 3 Truth is far more of an unhinged zealot than his Halo 2 incarnation, which I would have believed of. I think it more likely that by this point Truth has convinced himself of his own lies. If it's not obvious by the time Arbiter shows him his stabs, Truth has become insane. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:12, 3 December 2011 (EST)
:I'd like to think he was hinging his bets - if Halo really did kill everything else off, then he'd be left as a virtual "god" of an empty galaxy. But really, the Halo 3 Truth is far more of an unhinged zealot than his Halo 2 incarnation, which I would have believed of. I think it more likely that by this point Truth has convinced himself of his own lies. If it's not obvious by the time Arbiter shows him his stabs, Truth has become insane. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:12, 3 December 2011 (EST)


:No, I doubt that his motivations were of anything but a religious nature. While I suppose he became slightly disillusioned with the Covenant faith after his encounter with a fragment of [[Mendicant Bias]], whom revealed the true [[Reclaimer|heirs]] of the Forerunners were actually Humans. I don't think he renounced his entire belief in the Great journey. He likely believed that they were still celestial and transcendental relics of divinity. The prophet of Truth essentially waged a genocidal war on humanity to maintain that belief in the Great Journey is preserved among the Covenant and so that they would be the species to inherit the rewards of it.  
:No, I doubt that his motivations were of anything but a religious nature. While I suppose he became slightly disillusioned with the Covenant faith after his encounter with a fragment of [[Mendicant Bias]], whom revealed the [[Reclaimer|heirs]] of the true Forerunners were actually Humans. I don't think he renounced his entire belief in the Great journey. He likely believed that they were still celestial and transcendental relics of divinity. The prophet of Truth essentially waged a genocidal war on humanity to maintain that belief in the Great Journey is preserved among the Covenant and so that they would be the species to inherit the rewards of it.  


:I also do not think he would be aware of Halo's range of fire. According to the Covenant, they believe that the Halo Array controls the fate of the universe and award them godhood (like it did with the forerunners). The Halo Array's true purpose is actually that of galactic extermination to destroy the Flood's threat to biodiversity. So I do not think they will have a perfect knowledge of Halo's mechanisms and range. To quote 343 Guilty Spark:  
:I also do not think he would be aware of Halo's range of fire. According to the Covenant, they believe that the Halo Array controls the fate of the universe and award them godhood (like it did with the forerunners). The Halo Array's true purpose is actually that of galactic extermination to destroy the Flood's threat to biodiversity. So I do not think they will have a perfect knowledge of Halo's mechanisms and range. To quote 343 Guilty Spark:  


:{{quote|Told? By whom? Anyone who told you that is either a fool - or quite, quite mad.|Guilty Spark, [[Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary Terminals#Terminal 11|Terminal 11]].}}
:{{quote|Told? By whom? Anyone who told you that is either a fool - or quite, quite mad.|Guilty Spark, [[Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary Terminals#Terminal 11|Terminal 11]].}}
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:--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] [[Image:Bruteface.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 09:54, 3 December 2011 (EST)


Besides, what good would it have been to rule an empty galaxy? Truth was already in charge of the Covenant, which was already easily wiping out Humanity. It's not as if he could gain more physical power, because he already ruled the most powerful empire in the galaxy. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 11:39, 3 December 2011 (EST)
Besides, what good would it have been to rule an empty galaxy? Truth was already in charge of the Covenant, which was already easily wiping out Humanity. It's not as if he could gain more physical power, because he already ruled the most powerful empire in the galaxy. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 11:39, 3 December 2011 (EST)
== Ord Casto ==
When was it said this was his name? I'm not arguing that it's cannon I'm just curiouser. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 14:43, 19 January 2012 (EST)
:Check the references. [[Halo: The Essential Visual Guide]]. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:10, 19 January 2012 (EST)
oh thanks[[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 22:02, 27 January 2012 (EST)
== Halo 3: ODST ==
Is his appearance in the final cutscene of ODST canonical? I don't think he was at Earth at the time. Unless, this cutscene takes place once the Anodyne Spirit gets to Earth, but that's not how it's made to appear...to me, at least. [[User:TheArb1ter117|TheArb1ter117]] ([[User talk:TheArb1ter117|talk]]) 00:40, October 21, 2019 (EDT)
:Yes it is indeed canon. The main things that help it is.
:A. The event in question isnt tied to a date, or time. Just that its after Johnson gets back. (Which is close to Halo 3s start anyway)
:B. Nothing really stops him going there at all.
:Hope that helps a tad.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 09:28, October 21, 2019 (EDT)

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