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== Update required ==
{{Archived}}
== Changes to be made ==


Changes required to this mediawiki page:
Per title, the following changes need to be made to the Nimbus sidebar (and I presume the other sidebars?).
*Change "We Are ODST" to "The Life"
*Add "Halo Waypoint" link under Community Related Sites
*Remove "Ascendant Justice" link under Community Related Sites as it is no longer updated by the site's staff
*Remove "Halo Wars" link under Community Related Sites as Microsoft has pulled support from it and it will most likely be merged into Halo Waypoint
*Remove "Disbanded Usergroup" link since all it does is attracting unneeded traffic/attention
That's it I guess. :) — <span style="font-size:120%; font-family:Palatino Linotype; font-style:italic;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:49, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:Done, thanks for the head's up Kai! {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|April 17th, 2011}}


::Shouldn't Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting and perhaps the Didact be added to the "Main Book Characters" tab? --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 14:26, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
*The URLs for Halo Fanon and Halo Nation need to be updated to the new domain: <code>subject.fandom.com</code>.
*The links to the international Halopedias need to be replaced. Copy the links from [https://www.halopedia.org/index.php?title=Halopedia:Community&diff=prev&oldid=1265821 this edit].
*The link to Bungiepedia needs to be removed as the site sadly no longer exists.


==Community sites==
Thanks a million.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 10:59, 23 January 2019 (EST)
Shouldn't [http://halo.xbox.com/en-us halo.xbox.com] be included in the community section of related sites? -- [[User talk:SFH|SFH]] 13:41, 11 June 2011 (EDT)
:It's linked under it's official name as '''''Halo Waypoint'''''. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|June 11th, 2011}}
:Ah, my mistake. I was looking in Related Sites, didn't know it was at Gameplay. Sorry. -- [[User talk:SFH|SFH]] 16:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)


== Format for Games ==
==Battle Born==
I suggest following the one currently used in [[Template:Halo Games]]. To make it simpler, just copy the following:
Battle Born and Meridian Divide are both part of a series (also called Battle Born) and should probably be grouped the same way Kilo-Five and The Forerunner Saga are.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 10:49, 11 February 2019 (EST)TheEld
:Agreed, if an administrator would like to do this, just copy the following format:
<pre>
<pre>
*Category:Games|Games
**Battle Born: A Halo Young Adult Novel Series|Battle Born
**Category:Games|Original Trilogy
***Halo: Battle Born|Battle Born
***Halo: Combat Evolved|Halo: Combat Evolved
***Halo: Meridian Divide|Meridian Divide
***Halo 2|Halo 2
***Halo 3|Halo 3
***Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary|Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
**Category:Games|New Trilogy
***Halo 4|Halo 4
**Category:Games|Others
***Halo PC|Halo PC
***Hal 2 Vista|Halo 2 Vista
***Halo 3: ODST|Halo 3: ODST
***Halo Wars|Halo Wars
***Halo: Reach|Halo: Reach
**Category:Deleted Material|Canceled Projects
***Halo: Chronicles|Halo: Chronicles
***Halo DS|Halo DS
***Untitled Halo MMO|Halo MMO
</pre>
</pre>
Because I care. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 18:53, 11 June 2011 (EDT)
:--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:26, 11 February 2019 (EST)
 
== Remove old stuff ==
 
Wouldn't it be better to remove the old stuff, i.e. disbanded, or no longer in use? Of course, I am referring to "HOTM", "Usergroups" and "Parodies".
 
While you're on it, please replace "[[:Category:Halopedia Policy]]" with "[[:Category:Halopedia policies]]". :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  16:13, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:Good point. I'll remove them and replace the categories as well.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 19:59, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
 
== Split up Books and Media ==
 
<pre>
*Category:Comics|Comics
**Halo: Uprising|Uprising
***Halo: Uprising Issue 1|Issue 1
***Halo: Uprising Issue 2|Issue 2
***Halo: Uprising Issue 3|Issue 3
***Halo: Uprising Issue 4|Issue 4
**Halo: Helljumper|Helljumper
***Halo: Helljumper Issue 1|Issue 1
***Halo: Helljumper Issue 2|Issue 2
***Halo: Helljumper Issue 3|Issue 3
***Halo: Helljumper Issue 4|Issue 4
***Halo: Helljumper Issue 5|Issue 5
**Halo: Blood Line|Blood Line
***Halo: Blood Line Issue 1|Issue 1
***Halo: Blood Line Issue 2|Issue 2
***Halo: Blood Line Issue 3|Issue 3
***Halo: Blood Line Issue 4|Issue 4
***Halo: Blood Line Issue 5|Issue 5
**Halo: Fall of Reach|Fall of Reach
***Halo: Fall of Reach - Boot Camp|Boot Camp
***Halo: Fall of Reach - Covenant|Covenant
***Halo: Fall of Reach - Invasion|Invasion
**Halo Wars: Genesis|Genesis
**Halo Graphic Novel|Graphic Novel
***The Last Voyage of the Infinite Succor|The Last Voyage of the Infinite Succor
***Armor Testing|Armor Testing
***Breaking Quarantine|Breaking Quarantine
***Second Sunrise Over New Mombasa|Second Sunrise Over New Mombasa
**Halo: Initiation|Initiation
***Halo: Initiation Issue 1|Issue 1
***Halo: Initiation Issue 2|Issue 2
***Halo: Initiation Issue 3|Issue 3
**Halo: Escalation|Escalation
***Halo: Escalation Issue 1|Issue 1
***Halo: Escalation Issue 2|Issue 2
***Halo: Escalation Issue 3|Issue 3
***Halo: Escalation Issue 4|Issue 4
***Halo: Escalation Issue 5|Issue 5
***Halo: Escalation Issue 6|Issue 6
***Halo: Escalation Issue 7|Issue 7
**Halo 3: The Cradle of Life|The Cradle of Life
 
*Category:Film|Film
**Category:Film|Animation
***Halo Legends|Halo Legends
****The Babysitter|The Babysitter
****The Duel|The Duel
****Homecoming|Homecoming
****Odd One Out|Odd One Out
****Origins|Origins
****The Package|The Package
****Prototype|Prototype
**Category:Film|Promotional
***Halo: Landfall|Landfall
****Halo: Arms Race|Arms Race
****Halo: Combat|Combat
****Halo: Last One Standing|Last One Standing
***The Life|The Life
***Birth of a Spartan|Birth of a Spartan
***Remember Reach|Remember Reach
****Remember Reach Webfilm|Remember Reach Webfilm
*****New Life|New Life
*****Patrol|Patrol
*****Spaceport|Spaceport
****Deliver Hope|Deliver Hope
**Category:Film|Television
***Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn|Forward Unto Dawn
***Halo: Nightfall|Nightfall
***Halo: The Television Series|The Television Series
**Halo (film)|Halo film
</pre>
 
There is already a bunch of stuff in the comic and film categories to warrant their separated inclusion on the sidebar from what is predominately books. Might be easier to have one less step in the process for two of the more rapidly growing mediums for Halo. Also, perhaps change "Books & Media" to simply Books. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}}
 
:It would be better to leave out the individual issues and individual films. It is foreseeable that the list will just get longer and longer and that it will be cluttered.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  07:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::By individual films, you're referring to the separate ''Legends'' and ''Remember Reach'' entries, correct? {{User:Helianthus/Sig}}
:::Yup. :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  04:22, 17 July 2014 (EDT)
::::I agree, the list is just too long. I'll make the necessary adjustments to it.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 01:24, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
 
== Character categories ==
 
I've been thinking that with the increasingly cross-media direction the ''Halo'' franchise has been heading, the categories of "Main Game Characters", "Main Book Characters", and "Main Comic Characters" we've used in the sidebar have become somewhat obsolete. For example, which category Thomas Lasky belongs to? He's all of those things, plus a film character to boot. So are the Spartans of Blue Team now, for that matter. The Ur-Didact and the Librarian are both prominent game ''and'' book characters, so it's a bit odd they're only listed in the "Main Game Characters" tab, as if these categories are somehow ranked and characters "graduate" to a "higher" status once they appear in a game.
 
I was thinking if we could perhaps adopt a faction-based categorization system, but then again the "UNSC" category would become massively crowded and would probably need sub-categories like "UNSC Navy" and "UNSC Marine Corps", etc. which would make it more complicated than the relatively simple system we have now (even though we'd still only be listing ''major'' characters). Any other ideas?--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:11, 4 January 2016 (EST)
 
:I was thinking the same thing not too long ago (like why is 'Vadum considered a "main comic character" when he only appeared in a graphic novel short story). I think a faction-based system could work if we limited it to only the major characters, but it could lead to debates about who should be included. It might be better to reorganize "The Universe" section. I am thinking having categories for characters, locations, species, factions, technology, and maybe more. Then within each category, include only the most important ones with no subcategories. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 00:52, 4 January 2016 (EST)
::I completely agree with the above proposal. I would also like to suggest adding a "notable locations" category to the sidebar, to highlight some of the prominently featured locations in the ''Halo''verse. It would add some variety I think.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 14:52, 4 January 2016 (EST)
 
:::Agreed. I just think the biggest problem would be determining which characters should be included. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 16:26, 4 January 2016 (EST)
 
::::Makes sense to me.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 23:43, 4 January 2016 (EST)
 
:::::[[User:NightHammer/Sandbox2|Here's just an example of what we could include.]] Obviously, stuff could be added or removed. The technology section was whatever jumped in my head that is either important or iconic in the ''Halo'' series. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 23:37, 10 January 2016 (EST)
 
::::::That looks pretty good for the most part. Off the top of my head I'd perhaps add the Librarian to the characters section and replace the link in "Cloaking" to [[active camouflage]] rather than the ''Halo 3'' equipment page, but those are just minor things. We could also have prominent groups or military units of interest listed under each organization (the "organizations" section could perhaps be titled "Factions") - i.e. the Marines, ONI, ODSTs and various Spartan programs under the UNSC. The factions section could also list the Insurrectionists rather than the URF as they're often grouped together like that in-universe (even though they aren't an organization per se), with the URF, NCA and other rebel groups under that tab. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:02, 11 January 2016 (EST)
 
:::::::Alright, I made some changes. I don't want to put ODSTs under Marines or ONI under Navy since I think it might be too much "subcategories" like that. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 00:10, 11 January 2016 (EST)
 
::::::::Agreed. I wonder if it'd be warranted to have a separate "Ships and vehicles" category. We could list a few ships of importance like the ''Autumn'', ''In Amber Clad'', ''Dawn'', ''Infinity'', ''Truth and Reconciliation'', ''Shadow of Intent'', and ''Mantle's Approach''. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:54, 11 January 2016 (EST)
 
(''reset indent'') Yeah, I think that could work. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 01:01, 11 January 2016 (EST)
 
:If no one has any issues with it, I can implement the changes tonight. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 15:01, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::The proposed changes look good to me.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:15, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:::Done. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 21:11, 13 January 2016 (EST)
 
==Related Sites==
I have a few ideas of stuff we can add to the Related Sites section. You dont need to take all the ideas. But maybe some of them we can? I mean considered the community has split into lots of community groups.
 
'''Wikis'''
*Halo Nation - http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (Still a valid resource despite debate between here and there)
 
'''Community'''
*Halo Archive - http://www.haloarchive.com/ (many users here use Halo Archive so wont it be an idea to have it linked there)
*Ready up Live - http://www.readyuplive.com/ (many halo fans there, plus 343i have good connections with them)
*Reddit Halo - https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/ (of course lots of general Halo Discussion here)
*Reddit Halostory - https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloStory/ (lots of halo lore discussion here)
*Podtacular - http://www.podtacular.com/ (A Halo Podcast many people follow, plus it has plenty of interviews with 343i)
*Podcast Evolved - http://www.r8dmgaming.com/aboutevolved/ (Another Halo Podcast, mentioned in a canon fodder by Grim so yea)
*Forwarduntodawn - http://www.forwarduntodawn.com/ (articles that go deep into the halo lore)
*Halofollower - http://halofollower.com/ (despite debate whether they are good or not, they are still a valid community)
*Halo Canon - https://www.youtube.com/user/HaloCanon (A youtube channel by Toa Freak, who does lore videos)
 
I could go longer than what I put down but I dont wanna go overkill. --[[User talk:CIA391|CIA391]] 21:54, 13 January 2016 (GMT)
 
:We could probably remove a couple of the related sites we currently have. As for your list, I agree with most (Halo Archive, Ready Up Live, the reddits, Forward Unto Dawn, and Halo Canon) and as for the two podcasts, I don't know enough about them but I will take your word for it. Although I'm not so sure about HN and Halo Follower. We should only "advertise" sites that are of good standing and are active. Not to speak negatively of them, but Halo Nation is rather outdated. As for Halo Follower, I'm personally not a fan and while that obviously isn't a good enough reason to not include them, it is my understanding that there is recent conflict among Halo Follower's staff and a majority of the content producers have quit. Though even if most of us don't like Halo Follower, we should stay neutral and we cannot deny that it is one of the more popular YouTube channels. That's just my two cents. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 21:11, 13 January 2016 (EST)
 
::Yeah, I've heard Halo Follower is basically crumbling at the moment as the guy running it was exposed as a fraud who was running some elaborate scam on people, not to mention they're notorious for their lore inaccuracy and clickbait tactics. I think we can safely rule that one out. As for Halo Nation, they would never link to this site (their host wouldn't allow it, and I know since we tried that back in the day. Read more [[Halopedia:FAQ#Why are there two Halo wikis?|here]]). As such I don't see a reason to give them more exposure than they already have by virtue of their bigger host. Most people who come here will most likely know about HN anyway. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:13, 14 January 2016 (EST)

Latest revision as of 12:27, February 11, 2019

Changes to be made[edit]

Per title, the following changes need to be made to the Nimbus sidebar (and I presume the other sidebars?).

  • The URLs for Halo Fanon and Halo Nation need to be updated to the new domain: subject.fandom.com.
  • The links to the international Halopedias need to be replaced. Copy the links from this edit.
  • The link to Bungiepedia needs to be removed as the site sadly no longer exists.

Thanks a million.--Spartacus TalkContribs 10:59, 23 January 2019 (EST)

Battle Born[edit]

Battle Born and Meridian Divide are both part of a series (also called Battle Born) and should probably be grouped the same way Kilo-Five and The Forerunner Saga are.TheEld (talk) 10:49, 11 February 2019 (EST)TheEld

Agreed, if an administrator would like to do this, just copy the following format:
**Battle Born: A Halo Young Adult Novel Series|Battle Born
***Halo: Battle Born|Battle Born
***Halo: Meridian Divide|Meridian Divide
--Spartacus TalkContribs 11:26, 11 February 2019 (EST)