Talk:Project CHRYSANTHEMUM

did all S-III companies recieve augemenations? we know for a fact that Gamma Company did but did the other 2 did? for some people i know say they do.--UNSC AI 01:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

All compaines recieved the first four augmentations, but the last three, only Gamma Company. -ED 01:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Which Is better?

Does the Spartan II augmentation have better results than the Spartan III because I thought that the loss of the mortality rates would mean it wouldent be as good.TheBlueBlur 19:22, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

• The CHRYSANTHEMUM augmentations really weren't any less effective than those of the SPARTAN-IIs, as they were really just a refinement upon the originals. However, the decreased mortality rate was certainly a benefit. As for Kurt's secret administration of illegal drugs during Gamma Company's procedures - that's another story. --"A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 19:41, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

In Comparison to Spartan-IIs

This whole section should be removed. It has no citations to official sources for all its claims, and Ghosts of Onyx clearly shows Spartan-IIIs operating well alongside a veteran S-II (Kurt-051), and working well with other Spartans, despite lacking Mjolnir armor.

I agree with the above, calling them inferior is stupid, i don't see the same mention of inferiority on the Spartan IV page. The III's were not in the same circumstances; had they been feilded in teams of 300 all equipped in Mjolnir armour and aged 20ish (so their augmentations would have settled and maybe increased somewhat)and had the same mortality rates in combat then yes, they would be inferior compared to handfuls of II's destroying cruisers and space stations....this however isn't the case. The III's are pretty much thrown out straight after augmentation and wear, in essence, glorified ODST armour. To my knowledge Tom and Lucy are the only III's to date of any appreciable age that can be compared; and they do just fine alongside the Spartans of Blue team without all the advantages of a super suit and as many miles on the clock. The enhancements (fair enough they don't all have 'perfect genes' - but do we truly know how much of an effect this has?) make them comparable, the level of training is comparable (arguably the III's is better than the II's as they had a II training them - who better to know how to train someone with their abilities?) - the only appreciable difference is Mjolnir.Qzmju123 (talk) 14:05, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

I agree with the above as well. If there is no citation for it by now then it definitely should be removed. That's a pretty strong accusation to say that the Spartan IIIs are that inferior without any source for it at all.

Well, with two other supporters (an no citation after so long), I have removed to section. If someone can find an actual citation, I encourage them to undo the edit and provide a citation. Toa Freak (talk) 18:26, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

Screening and compatibility

Regarding this edit, I think the implication is that there was more to the SPARTAN-IIs' genetic screening than mere compatibility with the augmentations (though that was the primary concern). The filtering also had to do with the specific psychological traits that would help one adapt to the indoctrination and training, intelligence, etc, while the IIIs didn't get screened for things like behavioral stability. Technological advances definitely helped with the S-IIIs, but statements in Ghosts of Onyx suggest that Halsey could've drawn her candidates from a slightly wider gene pool but chose not to. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 00:27, 16 February 2015 (EST)

I apologize that i didn't see this back when i made the edit. I kind of like the way it is now(says pretty much all it needs to say), but if you have quotes from Ghosts of Onyx, i wouldn't mind seeing them. The way i see it, like Toa Freak has also said on other forms of social media, the Spartan II candidates had to fall under that category of natural physical fitness and mental fortitude in order to survive their augmentations. She has a statement from the Fall of Reach that indirectly back that up as well. As for behavioral problems, i don't see why children who lost their families from glassing would be completely stable after that. I mean, the basis of the program was vengeful orphans who more than likely dealt trauma's no child can possibly endure unscathed on a mental level. That doesn't really seem like you can screen any candidates from that, that wouldn't be affected. While yes, her program had budget cuts and the candidate number was cut in half 2 separate times, the failure rate more than likely would have been worse had she had more funding for more candidates.Kal825B (talk) 15:17, 5 March 2015 (EST)

The Canonicity of "A Spartan Will Rise"?

What is the canonical status of this trailer? I noticed this site likes to use it as a source for canon for Noble Six, however, the trailer narration also mentions that Jun's skills as a sniper are "unmatched". While there is no specific source that directly backs it up, there are general sources that indirectly back that up. If it is considered canon, shouldn't the performance section say "on par or better"?