Forum:Waypoint's new Universe section

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So, this just came out. I'm kind of disappointed at the lack of new info on old stuff - we get birth dates and so on for some characters but not all of them. Then there's also obvious mistakes, like Randall Aiken as being part of the Spartan branch. And I can't help but grin at the thinly-veiled copy-pasting from Halopedia which despite the use of slightly different wordings most of the time is readily apparent in some places (I suppose that's a sign we're doing a good job, though some acknowledgment would be nice). For instance:

"...the discord eventually culminated in both the Master Builder’s takeover of the Forerunner Old Council as well as the exile of the Didact."

vs.

"This conflict eventually culminated in Faber's takeover of the Old Council and the Didact's exile."

or

"On Charum Hakkor, Forthencho the remaining human forces were pushed back to the Citadel Charum, an ancient Precursor ruin; here they would make their final stand."

vs.

"Eventually, he and the other surviving human forces were pushed back to the Precursor ruin known as Citadel Charum where they made their final stand."

But like the now mostly defunct Catalog I think there's potential for something great here. It's clear this thing isn't going to surpass Halopedia in terms of detail but it can serve as a decent enough reference document for some details. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 10:32, 10 November 2014 (EST)

At least they're not copying that other wiki, right? --Our vengeance is at hand. (Talk to me.) 22:56, 10 November 2014 (EST)

Comments

Well, at least we now know the updated ranks of Douglas-042, Jerome-092 and Alice-130. Still find it odd that these three Spartans of Red Team are part of the newly found Spartan branch even though they're still considered MIA. Blue Team on the other hand remains independent of Spartan branch... — subtank 10:48, 10 November 2014 (EST)

It's probably a mistake, just like the way Randall Aiken is listed as being part of the Spartan branch. They probably copy-pasted the same "infobox" base in all Spartan entries and that was left in. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 11:01, 10 November 2014 (EST)

"I suppose that's a sign we're doing a good job, though some acknowledgment would be nice"

— Jugus

Some acknowledgement would really be nice considering that the wiki just turned 10 six days ago. *sigh*— subtank 11:06, 10 November 2014 (EST)

The quality of the entries fluctuates a lot. Some, mostly ones that have a lot of new and specific info (e.g. Alpha Shard) are great stuff while others mostly rehash old stuff we already know.

There are a few errors. Unyielding Heirophant is listed as only being 11 km tall when its 30 in First Strike. Says the humans were composed on Gamma Halo when it occurred on Omega Halo. Also not sure how the Librarian and the Didact met on Charum Hakkor but also had children that fought in the war. That needs to be clarified somehow. ProphetofTruth (talk) 11:45, 10 November 2014 (EST)

It's never stated when their first meeting happened, but it can be assumed they met before the war with the humans commenced (we know very little about human-Forerunner interactions before the wars). We know they first met as Manipulars (I think this was said in Silentium) so maybe they let wandering Forerunner youths to the human capital? That's really the only explanation. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 13:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

I think someone had already voiced his concern about this info a long time ago (it's not new). But, in my opinion, I never really had the impression that Forerunners were "banned" from any kind of interaction with humans. I mean, each species had billions of individuals and probably dozens of thousands of worlds. On another note, am I the only one who finds it stupid that 343i are revealing some "important stuff" from Halo: Nightfall? They should never have given Axl his ("its" is more instinctive for me right now) own page. Imrane-117 (talk) 18:46, 10 November 2014 (EST)

Yes, the writing quality really seems to follow a sine curve from one entry to the next. At least they updated the Ark entry to reflect the installation's survival. --Our vengeance is at hand. (Talk to me.) 22:56, 10 November 2014 (EST)

A few missed opportunities too. Sarah E. Palmer's "E." disappears. And Oth Lodon Station still doesn't have a name. (by the way, we should change its name, it sounds as if it were a real name... "Station at Oth Lodon"? Like Covenant cruiser at Longhorn Valley...)Imrane-117 (talk) 23:04, 10 November 2014 (EST)