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Figured with the release, I'd start the discussion. I have to say I'm not even half way done and I find this Guide much more informative then the previous guide, particularly the section on Fireteam majestic. File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 14:29, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

I still need to get my hands on one. Anything particularly interesting?Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 14:31, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

There's a few significant revelations (I won't spoil). File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 15:20, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

But spoilers are gooooooooooooooooooooood.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 16:01, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

Think I'll wait to buy it until I see some reviews of it. Hopefully the mistakes, if any, are few and far between (*cough* Halo Encyclopedia *cough*).--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 15:27, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

I have certainly tried to minimize that. It had 5 full review passes and it changed quite a bit from the version I first saw in February.It will not be the Encyclopedia all over again. :)-ScaleMaster117 (talk) 15:39, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

I can vouch for that. Aside from the fact that it uses the word "ad hoc" a little too often, the mistakes are very minimal. It is a must-have item for every hardcore Halo fan. --Xamikaze330 [Transmission|Commencing] 15:41, 16 September 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330

Grrr you guys are teasing me :| Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 16:00, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

Onager

Just wondering is the Onager in Halo 4 specifically identified as the same type in Halo: Reach? Because the Guide is saying there is another type in Halo 4. File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 18:23, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, you're right. We'll have to use the same article, but create a subsection to cover both variants. I'm working on it. --Xamikaze330 [Transmission|Commencing] 18:28, 16 September 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330

Infinity sub-vessels

The EVG says the sub-vessels of the Infinity are a different class frigate then what's currently listed here. Just wondering if the sub-vessel's class has already been confirmed or we just assumed what it was.File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 21:55, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Hmmm...it's actually pretty explicit on the Strident-class page that they are the frigates docked in the Infinity. Not sure where your reference comes from. In which entry does it come into question? -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 22:02, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Ok that's what the EVG says and what i meant, I read the SO episode with the sub vessel being labelled as a different class, I'll just change that article.File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 22:14, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Spartan ranks

As established in the Guide, the Spartan branch has only two ranks, Spartan and Spartan commander. I was wondering how these could be added in terms of the rank category. I was thinking one page titled "Spartan (rank)" detailing the normal Spartan's role and the Spartan commander's role. Another option is just adding it as a section in the branch's page. I'm open for suggestions. File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 16:26, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

Holy frack, two ranks?Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 17:01, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

You seem to want them to have ranks but the Guide doesn't really say that. It explicitly says that all Spartans are equal and that detachments operate under a commander (note the use in the guide of the lowercase "c") and other Spartans are just assembled into fireteams and a fireteam has a leader (also not a rank, just a position). 'Spartan' is not a rank, but simply what they are. Don't over-complicate. :) -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 17:18, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

So we're back down to one rank?Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 17:25, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

Pretty much. There really is no need to over-complicate things. --Xamikaze330 [Transmission|Commencing] 17:26, 19 September 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330

No ranks among the Spartan-IVs! Palmer as a "commmader" (again, lowercase "c") is a term to indicate she's in charge; a position, it's not a "rank". DeMarco is the leader of a fireteam but is the equal to Palmer and Hoya for instance within the Spartan Branch. They are all Spartans. Their job positions give some more authority in a few cases, but there are no rank distinctions. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 17:36, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

So an entire branch of the military has no ranks. Hmm. This kind of seems like a bad move considering that militaries that have done this in the past always go back to using ranks due to difficulties with command and control.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 17:44, 19 September 2013 (EDT)